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Omerta 09-17-2015 03:43 PM

4.8is Front Differential Rebuild Kits
 
I strongly suspect the front diff on my E53 (PN: 31 50 7 512 665) is starting to whine and am looking at repair/replace options.

I've replaced my drivers side wheel bearing and axle with no resolve, leading to the diff being the culprit. The sound is peaking in loudness about once a tire revolution.

Does anyone know of rebuild kits that are available for the 3.91 radio front?

Are there places that will reman it for a reasonable cost?

X5only 09-17-2015 04:06 PM

Have you changed the fluid?

Junkycosmos 09-17-2015 04:09 PM

Curious to hear what you find here. When I was redoing my front diff seals which I had open for other work I found ton of postings on other X drive cars where the front diffs were blowing up often. I have not seen much posting of it here on X5s though so maybe not as common?

I suspect you are way past this as a help but on my recent refill of diff I did add Liqui Moly 2019 MoS2 Anti-Friction Gear Lubricant per suggestions of a few places. Cannot speak to how / if it helps drop noise since mine was not prior.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CPL8UPY

As ref I used redline 75w gear oil http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-57904.../dp/B000CPCBF0 in front and rear with that Mos2
Curious to hear what you come up with on front diff options too.

J

Omerta 09-17-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5only (Post 1051355)
Have you changed the fluid?

Not since I have owned it, When I changed the axle the fluid level was fine. Put about 6,000km since then.

X5only 09-17-2015 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omerta (Post 1051359)
Not since I have owned it, When I changed the axle the fluid level was fine. Put about 6,000km since then.

Not the level, I meant draining old fluid and refilling with fresh dealer supplied fluid. It's pretty cheap. I would try that before anything else. I almost replaced/rebuilt my whining transfer case (as recommended by Indy and dealer tech) but decided to first drain and refill the fluid. The whining gradually subsided in a span of about 300 miles and then completely stopped. That was like 10k miles ago.

Omerta 09-17-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5only (Post 1051361)
Not the level, I meant draining old fluid and refilling with fresh dealer supplied fluid. It's pretty cheap. I would try that before anything else. I almost replaced/rebuilt my whining transfer case (as recommended by Indy and dealer tech) but decided to first drain and refill the fluid. The whining gradually subsided in a span of about 300 miles and then completely stopped. That was like 10k miles ago.

Yes, that is true. I'm planning to dive into that this weekend, not confident it will resurrect it though and want to know my options.

Omerta 09-17-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkycosmos (Post 1051356)
Curious to hear what you find here. When I was redoing my front diff seals which I had open for other work I found ton of postings on other X drive cars where the front diffs were blowing up often. I have not seen much posting of it here on X5s though so maybe not as common?

I suspect you are way past this as a help but on my recent refill of diff I did add Liqui Moly 2019 MoS2 Anti-Friction Gear Lubricant per suggestions of a few places. Cannot speak to how / if it helps drop noise since mine was not prior.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CPL8UPY

As ref I used redline 75w gear oil http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-57904.../dp/B000CPCBF0 in front and rear with that Mos2
Curious to hear what you come up with on front diff options too.

J

I'll check these out. Will likely do a flush a few times with cheap fluid to get out any particles which are likely in it due to the noise.

Joshdub 09-17-2015 05:21 PM

Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Flush the fluid and refill with a quality one and go from there.

Omerta 09-18-2015 02:32 PM

That's not the intention. I'm evaluating options..

TiAgX5 09-18-2015 02:45 PM

Do a 30 minute drive at hyw speed then drain, this will remove more particles then several drain/fills.

Gregory891 09-18-2015 03:11 PM

Install a dimple magnetic drain plug in your diff(s), transfer case, etc. It will catch ANY metal.

www.drainplugmagnets.com

X5only 09-18-2015 03:25 PM

DO you know who sells them?

Omerta 09-22-2015 11:03 AM

Update: Diff fluid change made no difference.

X5only 09-22-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omerta (Post 1051913)
Update: Diff fluid change made no difference.

How much have you driven after the fluid change? You will not notice the change right away if there's bound to be a difference.

Omerta 09-22-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5only (Post 1051934)
How much have you driven after the fluid change? You will not notice the change right away if there's bound to be a difference.

Drove about 50km.

X5only 09-22-2015 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omerta (Post 1051943)
Drove about 50km.

Just 31 miles? Too soon to declare failure .....now go out and drive that thing and report back in a week's time, really.

Omerta 09-22-2015 06:43 PM

It's been making the same type noise for an extended period of time 8,000km, where it was getting worse in the last 1,000km. Clean oil doesn't cause failing gears/bearings to self-heal it just removes the accelerating wear mechanism.

The vibration/noise hits resonance around 40 km/h and at a 1X vibration with the wheel speed and thus unlikely to be the driveshaft.

It's either the diff gears/bearings are damaged or it's the passenger side axle/bearings doing some voodoo vibrational translations fooling me.

MMateri 12-14-2015 06:50 PM

Just going through a front diff replacement on my 4.8is. The diff was leaking and would leave a few drops of oil on my garage floor. Then it started grinding when under load. It also caused some vibrations while driving. I had to find a donor diff (off a 4.6is) that cost me $950. I'll be getting that installed next week.

mig25 12-14-2015 08:26 PM

Front Diff
 
I just did mine 3.0i front diff.
Previous owner ran it without any oil.
Bought another Diff with 75K miles on it. installed it , replaced all the seals, refilled her.
Good to go.
(PITA) Job though...:rolleyes:


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