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V8 00USH 07-31-2018 09:09 AM

Love those fittings - I never even knew they existed. They would certainly make installation a breeze. If I had to do it again I would use a 16 row cooler rather than a 19 row - would make installing it where I did alot easier indeed and would still be enough to cool the transmission.

snik 07-31-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 00USH (Post 1138414)
Love those fittings - I never even knew they existed. They would certainly make installation a breeze. If I had to do it again I would use a 16 row cooler rather than a 19 row - would make installing it where I did alot easier indeed and would still be enough to cool the transmission.



Oh yeah. 16 is adequate? Well poop. I may do that too.
Yeah a buddy that suggested I run the external cooler showed me these. He's done a few on DCT cars, apparently they run too how in track conditions too.

I'm probably gonna order the cooler and these line adapters today.
Then get an8 lines made locally once I figure out what length and angles I need.


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V8 00USH 07-31-2018 09:31 AM

You can make the lines up yourself - piece of cake. Just work out what you need. If it's going in a similar place to where mine is I reckon you'll need 2x 90 deg for the top of the cooler and then you'll probably get away with either 2x 45deg or perhaps 2x 90deg coming off the original lines to get them heading in a decent direction. Beauty of the old fittings is that they are already on rubber hoses which will help you direction wise.

Forgot to add....I'd still look at running a thermostat too.

snik 07-31-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 00USH (Post 1138416)
You can make the lines up yourself - piece of cake. Just work out what you need. If it's going in a similar place to where mine is I reckon you'll need 2x 90 deg for the top of the cooler and then you'll probably get away with either 2x 45deg or perhaps 2x 90deg coming off the original lines to get them heading in a decent direction. Beauty of the old fittings is that they are already on rubber hoses which will help you direction wise.



Forgot to add....I'd still look at running a thermostat too.



You think so, i was thinking to go without. It's never really cool down here in south Texas.


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V8 00USH 08-01-2018 05:34 AM

Have you got any way of monitoring the transmission temperature?

snik 08-01-2018 05:57 AM

X5 4.6is 5HP24 External Transmission Cooler - My Solution
 
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Originally Posted by V8 00USH (Post 1138495)
Have you got any way of monitoring the transmission temperature?



Only INPA. And I haven't driven around with it.
It was at 83 about an hour after driving yesterday. I had INPA plugged in.

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V8 00USH 08-01-2018 06:39 AM

I read your post and thought.....86 degrees is fine for normal running....and then I read it again and realised you'd said it was at 86 degrees an hour AFTER driving. As in it had been stopped for an hour and then you hooked up INPA? Am I reading it right?

snik 08-01-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 00USH (Post 1138498)
I read your post and thought.....86 degrees is fine for normal running....and then I read it again and realised you'd said it was at 86 degrees an hour AFTER driving. As in it had been stopped for an hour and then you hooked up INPA? Am I reading it right?



Yep. Said TC was slipping too. Never seen that error before.
My shit is fucked.


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g300d 08-01-2018 10:51 AM

I think I will be doing this too!

Been researching on AT coolers for Subarus and been thinking about putting them on the BMW's. Looks like they do good in this application also.

LooneyLeon 07-20-2023 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 00USH (Post 1055683)
Bit of background information to start with.

X5 4.6is done 104k. First time I drove it home from buying it I found it had the harsh 2-1 downshift issue and also came up with a transmission code 'too much slip'.

Car went in to have the torque convertor replaced under warranty and have the transmission fluid and filter changed.

Got it back....and unfortunately the harsh downshift was still there. Checked the transmission fluid which was red (incorrect) and the sump had never been removed so filter had obviously never been done.

After complaining the car went back in to have the transmission fluid changed and filter done properly this time and I insisted they use the proper fluid which they ended up getting direct from BMW (more fool them!).

Got the car back....harsh downshifts were still there although they did seem to not be as bad - might have just been my imagination!

Anyway....I decided to investigate further myself and found that as soon as the transmission temperature rose to above 95degrees the harshdown shifts started.

First port of call was to replace the transmission thermostat which I did but unfortunately it made absolutely no difference.

I then decided that if I was going to make any signficant reduction in the transmission temperature then I was going to have to fit an external oil cooler. So this is what I did.

Parts used...

2 x -8AN Push on fittings (1x straight, 1x 90 deg)
4 x -8AN Fittings (2 x 90deg, 2 x 45deg)
4m -8AN Braided Hose
1x 19 Row Oil Cooler (-8AN Fittings)
1x Mocal 80deg -8AN Oil Thermostat
2x Rubber Bobbin Mounts

I basically cut into the return line of the standard piping system and used the push on fittings to attach to the thermostat then fed the cooler off the other side of the thermostat.

I'll let the pics do the talking...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psxbagl5qa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psqjz7munq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psstddzrtp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps1r0wocgh.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psdayti9ds.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps4flvu1hi.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psyqcvkjht.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psxb8e6lsu.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psueidra2m.jpg

...and the real test.

This was before the cooler was fitted - a typical 45 minute, 20 mile journey into work where the last 5 miles is stop/start urban type driving.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psgk7d0w4n.jpg

That's the transmission fluid sat at 107 degrees.

....and now after the cooler has been fitted..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psimdp8hgp.jpg

That's the transmission fluid at 80 degrees - a differences of 27 degrees!

It usually sits around 76/77 degrees whilst cruising and only rises slightly in traffic - basically sat more or less on the opening temperature of the thermostat.

Has it made a difference to the shifts? Yes, yes it definitely has. Harsh 2-1 downshift has completely been eliminated. All gearchanges are totally smooth and seemless throughout. Massive improvement all round.

Would I recommend this mod to others? Yes I most certainly would. Anything to extends the life of these gearboxes. Even if it means I only get an extra 10k out of it it's definitely money well spent. It's even a good mod to do on a car with no transmission issues - cooler transmission fluid definitely makes for a happier gearbox all round - which is probably why nearly every automatic vehicle since the E53 X5s runs a separate transmission cooler.

It looks amazing is it still working ok? I'm thinking of doing the same. Do you have links to the exact parts you used you could post please. Thanks in advance.


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