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pyro4ik 11-22-2015 12:27 PM

Bluetooth no-go
 
I've had my 2005 4.4 X5 for about 2 months and I just got around to pairing up the Bluetooth, but I can't get it to work. I've tried the routine pairing steps over and over and pulled the fuses for 15 mins, but still nothing. It's never once said "Activate Phone" either. I see the module bolted in the side of the trunk and plugged in, but nope. I'll buy a new module as a last resort, but hoping I don't have to.

pyro4ik 11-25-2015 10:00 AM

Ok so I read a post or two that reccomended a photo of the module be uploaded so folks can help. Here goes:

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/pyro...93-capture.jpg

Any healp would be great!

DYPWICK 11-25-2015 12:15 PM

The older bluetooth modules had a limit of (i believe) four different devices to be paired to it. If that is the case it can be cleared at a dealer or good BMW indie shop.

pyro4ik 11-25-2015 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DYPWICK (Post 1059564)
The older bluetooth modules had a limit of (i believe) four different devices to be paired to it. If that is the case it can be cleared at a dealer or good BMW indie shop.

I found steps to clear all devices, and that didn't work. Basically nothing happens when I try any steps for anything. No beeps, no text on the radio or dash, nothing.....

Qsilver7 11-25-2015 01:53 PM

So when you turn the ignition to position 1 (KL R) or position 2 (KL 15)...then within the next 2 minutes when you select search for bluetooth devices on your smartphone...your bmw doesn't appear on your smartphone' list? If it does it will say "bmw xxxxx " where x=the last 5 digits of your VIN.

If your bmw does appear, do you then select it on your smartphone, then enter the pass code 1557 based on the PK code on your BT module? Then once accepted do you turn the ignition off and wait 30 seconds?

Once you've waited 30 seconds...what do you do to determine if your phone has paired or not?

http://bimmerboard.com/members/q/ori...0e83%20e85.jpg

pyro4ik 11-25-2015 02:19 PM

My phone has never detected any "bmw xxxxx ".. I tried those steps like +10 times.

Edit: I have a Samsung Galaxy S4.....I guess I'll try my wifes iPhone?

PropellerHead 11-25-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyro4ik (Post 1059591)
My phone has never detected any "bmw xxxxx ".. I tried those steps like +10 times.

Edit: I have a Samsung Galaxy S4.....I guess I'll try my wifes iPhone?

The bluetooth module needs to be cleared using a GT1 or similar device that can access it and clear the stored pairings. I think it is a max of 5. I hit the limit on mine within a year of installation.

Riggodeaux 11-25-2015 04:59 PM

Not the highjack, but on this subject: My bluetooth link worked fine, initially, but now won't recognize or pair to my phone - the indicator light on the radio now, rarely, flashes red, never green, otherwise nada. Is there a distinct fuse for the bluetooth module I should check?

pyro4ik 11-25-2015 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riggodeaux (Post 1059618)
Not the highjack, but on this subject: My bluetooth link worked fine, initially, but now won't recognize or pair to my phone - the indicator light on the radio now, rarely, flashes red, never green, otherwise nada. Is there a distinct fuse for the bluetooth module I should check?

I read the fuses for b/t and phone are #7 in the glovebox and #72 and #73 in the right rear trunk panel.

pyro4ik 11-25-2015 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1059616)
The bluetooth module needs to be cleared using a GT1 or similar device that can access it and clear the stored pairings. I think it is a max of 5. I hit the limit on mine within a year of installation.

Would that be a dealer-only type of device? I'm not familiar.

SlickGT1 11-25-2015 07:53 PM

Red means not connected. Nothing lit up means it's connected. Green means you are in a call.

If you don't see bmwxxxx, I suggest you get the car scanned with a gt1, and get the codes for the module.

jopecasa 11-26-2015 02:57 AM

And you can also rename the module and change the 4 digit pin code via PA soft.

electricalserv x5 11-26-2015 07:33 AM

easy fix........turn your car off ,go and unplug the module from the harnest and reconnect,go turn the car on ,turn on your screen and see 'telephone'turn on the phone hit 'settings' and then blue tooth,should see bmw, pair it ,enter your pin from the manual . and that should do it..................

KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electricalserv x5 (Post 1059675)
easy fix........turn your car off ,go and unplug the module from the harnest and reconnect,go turn the car on ,turn on your screen and see 'telephone'turn on the phone hit 'settings' and then blue tooth,should see bmw, pair it ,enter your pin from the manual . and that should do it..................

Sorry to hi jack, I have done all of the above steps, including pulling fuses. I have also used my BMW scanner to scan the module, everything is blank, no info. Does this mean the module is dead? Thanks you

SlickGT1 11-26-2015 04:47 PM

No it does not. Scan with gt1, computer will know if the module is there, and what the malfunction is. Now sure what BMW scanner is capable of.

KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 1059707)
No it does not. Scan with gt1, computer will know if the module is there, and what the malfunction is. Now sure what BMW scanner is capable of.


It shows on the scanner. It says unit in MTS mode. Not sure what that is. I have tried to reset nothing

Qsilver7 11-26-2015 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3 (Post 1059679)
Sorry to hi jack, I have done all of the above steps, including pulling fuses. I have also used my BMW scanner to scan the module, everything is blank, no info. Does this mean the module is dead? Thanks you

Did you install an upgraded TCU/ULF from a later BMW? I ask because none of the BMWs you have listed were built when BMW started installing Bluetooth capable units. The X5 didn't get integrated BT until the 10/04 build date.

And you may want to edit your signature because you have a 2001 X4 listed...which means either the model year is wrong or the model is wrong. There was no X4 back in 2001. :)


KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 1059729)
Did you install an upgraded TCU/ULF from a later BMW? I ask because none of the BMWs you have listed were built when BMW started installing Bluetooth capable units. The X5 didn't get integrated BT until the 10/04 build date.

And you may want to edit your signature because you have a 2001 X4 listed...which means either the model year is wrong or the model is wrong. There was no X4 back in 2001. :)



Nope. My car is a 2006 4.8is. The 2001 "X4" was sold years ago.

electricalserv x5 11-26-2015 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3 (Post 1059731)
Nope. My car is a 2006 4.8is. The 2001 "X4" was sold years ago.

I have the exact some X5 4.8is and I have BT . drops out ocne and in a while.I reboot it and it works fine.

KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electricalserv x5 (Post 1059733)
I have the exact some X5 4.8is and I have BT . drops out ocne and in a while.I reboot it and it works fine.

Not sure what you said but mine isn't working. And tried to reset it doesn't work

electricalserv x5 11-26-2015 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3 (Post 1059734)
Not sure what you said but mine isn't working. And tried to reset it doesn't work


do you see telephone on your menu screen?

jgold47 11-26-2015 08:47 PM

I have a working module for sale....

Qsilver7 11-26-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3 (Post 1059731)
Nope. My car is a 2006 4.8is. The 2001 "X4" was sold years ago.

Ah..now we know what we're working with. :D

When you follow the pairing instruction that were given back in post #5...does your BMW appear on your smartphones list of BT devices? If it does...how are you determining that nothing works...basically, how are you trying to make calls?

If you have a lot of contacts...it may take awhile for all of them to upload. And the car has to be on for the contacts to ip load and your phone needs to be in close proximity.

Have you figured out how to use Voice Control? VC allows you to press the talking face button briefly...you'll hear a tone, then you speak a command like "call number"...and the system will engage with you yo speak the phone nbr you want to call...or you can have VC save specific names...and you can ask the system to "call name".

KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 1059740)
Ah..now we know what we're working with. :D

When you follow the pairing instruction that were given back in post #5...does your BMW appear on your smartphones list of BT devices? If it does...how are you determining that nothing works...basically, how are you trying to make calls?

If you have a lot of contacts...it may take awhile for all of them to upload. And the car has to be on for the contacts to ip load and your phone needs to be in close proximity.

Have you figured out how to use Voice Control? VC allows you to press the talking face button briefly...you'll hear a tone, then you speak a command like "call number"...and the system will engage with you yo speak the phone nbr you want to call...or you can have VC save specific names...and you can ask the system to "call name".

So yes I see telephone
Yes the module is picked up by the BMW scanner software
It shows it is in MTS mode

I do not see the BMW/module listed in my iPhone 6 Plus
When I press the face profile button nothing happens, it was talking but. No longer

When I go to the telephone screen, it just says please wait

I have pulled fuses, 7, 73, 74 and waited...... Nothing
I have ripped aprt the back and completely unhooked the module and let it sit.....nothing

Maybe it isn't thanked up right? I don't see how has there are color coded stickers showing where the white goes and the purple...

I am at a loss..

electricalserv x5 11-26-2015 09:31 PM

I think its your phone..................go to setting ,then to Bluetooth,open it and You should see BMW then pair it.

KDAWG97M3 11-26-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electricalserv x5 (Post 1059744)
I think its your phone..................go to setting ,then to Bluetooth,open it and You should see BMW then pair it.

Trust me brother.,I have done it all..it isn't my phone.,,I have done that..the car/module isn't responding..

KDAWG97M3 11-27-2015 10:21 AM

Does anyone know what MTS mode is? That is what the ULF module is saying on the Bmw scanner software

peinu 11-27-2015 11:42 AM

just to make sure.

When you made the pairing, did you get the green lights flashing?
At this point, as I recall, the name of bluetooth device is not yet BMW 70455", it's just 80:ef:0d:22:b6 or similiar. When you connect your phone to this device, did you get "Enter Bluetooth Passkey"?

And you have the correct passkey too?

KDAWG97M3 11-27-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peinu (Post 1059802)
just to make sure.

When you made the pairing, did you get the green lights flashing?
At this point, as I recall, the name of bluetooth device is not yet BMW 70455", it's just 80:ef:0d:22:b6 or similiar. When you connect your phone to this device, did you get "Enter Bluetooth Passkey"?

And you have the correct passkey too?

Nothing brother. the module isn't responding

PropellerHead 11-27-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 1059707)
No it does not. Scan with gt1, computer will know if the module is there, and what the malfunction is. Now sure what BMW scanner is capable of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1059616)
The bluetooth module needs to be cleared using a GT1 or similar device that can access it and clear the stored pairings.

+3

ALLUCZ3 11-27-2015 03:35 PM

I was having pairing issues for my bluettoth module as well. I discoverd that the pairing button in the center arm rest had stopped working altogether after being intermittent for awhile.

Opening up the center armrest to remove the pairing button I noticed the wiring harness under the console along the passenger side hinge was frayed. The motion of opening and closing the center console lid wears on the wiring. I spliced the worn through wires and had a connection immediately. Check that out to see if that is your issue.

Qsilver7 11-27-2015 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALLUCZ3 (Post 1059849)
I was having pairing issues for my bluettoth module as well. I discoverd that the pairing button in the center arm rest had stopped working altogether after being intermittent for awhile.

Opening up the center armrest to remove the pairing button I noticed the wiring harness under the console along the passenger side hinge was frayed. The motion of opening and closing the center console lid wears on the wiring. I spliced the worn through wires and had a connection immediately. Check that out to see if that is your issue.

Unless the original BT TCU was removed and replaced with another model...the BT TCUs that came standard on the e53 with a 10/04 build date up...doesn't have a pairing button inside the console. It automatically goes into pairing mode for the 1st 2 minutes that the ignition is turned to position 1 or 2.

During those first minutes...open your cell/smartphone to look for available BT devices. You should see your BMW...it will be displayed as "BMW xxxxx"...the Xs will be the last 5 digits of your X5s VIN. You select your X5 and then your asked to enter the passkey code...etc.

The complete instructions for pairing the original BT TCU is in post #5 on the 1st page of this thread for X5s with 10/04 build date up. :)

KDAWG97M3 11-27-2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 1059879)
Unless the original BT TCU was removed and replaced with another model...the BT TCUs that came standard on the e53 with a 10/04 build date up...doesn't have a pairing button inside the console. It automatically goes into pairing mode for the 1st 2 minutes that the ignition is turned to position 1 or 2.

During those first minutes...open your cell/smartphone to look for available BT devices. You should see your BMW...it will be displayed as "BMW xxxxx"...the Xs will be the last 5 digits of your X5s VIN. You select your X5 and then your asked to enter the passkey code...etc.

The complete instructions for pairing the original BT TCU is in post #5 on the 1st page of this thread for X5s with 10/04 build date up. :)


Negative and we reset the module with the local BMW dealer shop software..again nothing showed up, no name, no pass key, nothing it seems the module is dead....

jopecasa 11-27-2015 11:24 PM

Maybe try to upload a .bin file and see if this will fix your issue.

If you can ask someone close to you.... to copy/share their BT module .bin file.

You local BMW dealership should have this.

KDAWG97M3 11-28-2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jopecasa (Post 1059933)
Maybe try to upload a .bin file and see if this will fix your issue.

If you can ask someone close to you.... to copy/share their BT module .bin file.

You local BMW dealership should have this.


How would I upload it?

Qsilver7 11-28-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3 (Post 1059926)
Negative and we reset the module with the local BMW dealer shop software..again nothing showed up, no name, no pass key, nothing it seems the module is dead....

My reply in post #32 was specific to the forum member that was quoted...and it was just clarification as to the difference between the prefacelift models that could install the upgraded BT modules...especially those that had the old BMW phones installed...vs the newer BT TCU model that was installed from 10/04 up...and their normal pairing instructions.

It was to note that the newer facelift X5s won't have a pairing button in the console...especially if they don't have an installed phone in the console.

My reply wasn't about the problem you're having with trying to pair your X5 with your mobile phone. :)

When you get this issue worked out...do post back the resolution and what possibly happened.

Dave123 11-28-2015 06:15 PM

I have exactly the same problem mate I was told I would have to get BMW to reactivity the module as previous owner had BMW assist and only they can re activate the module I contacted them and they didn't want to no but as I said I have exactly the same problems


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KDAWG97M3 11-28-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave123 (Post 1060014)
I have exactly the same problem mate I was told I would have to get BMW to reactivity the module as previous owner had BMW assist and only they can re activate the module I contacted them and they didn't want to no but as I said I have exactly the same problems


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There is no activating the module. I had a master tech hook it up. It needs to be replaced.

OldbrownX5 11-29-2015 10:32 PM

BMW X5 E53 wont connect to Iphone 6S via Bluetooth - FIX.
 
Hi There,

My first ever post. This worked for me and my wife’s brand new Iphone 6S may help with other cars or phones, just wanted to share it (I am going by memory as I never thought to write it down)

Problem: BMW X5 E53 wont connect to Iphone 6S via Bluetooth.
Fix:
1. Take the SIM card out of the phone (just pop it out, you will need to put it back in later)
2. Turn your ignition key to the fully off position
3. Hold down the speak button in the center console.
4. Still holding down the speak button in the console turn the key to position 1 keep holding the speak button FOR 3 SECONDS.
5. Bluetooth in the X5 is now in the "Pairing Mode". (you may need to put your BMW Pin code into your phone)
6. Now pair your phone as per maker's instructions.
7. Turn key to off position.
8. Insert the SIM card into the phone (wait for it to recognise the SIM and gain reception)
9. Turn the ignition switch back to position 1 (the first click)
10. Press the phone call button.
11. You may have to wait for all the contacts to appear, when they do find a contact and call them.
12. Your Phone is now synced with your BMW.

If someone could post this in an appropriate place would be appreciated.

Background : I bought New Iphone 6S and went to sync them up with My 2006 X5 using the original phone system but the X5 didn’t not see the phone and the phone did not see the X5. I knew the system was working the day before with my old phone so tried every trick I could find on forums for several hours. I then went to uninstall my Old phone from the X5 memory and found that they would connect fine without a SIM card (just couldn’t make a call) so thought “hey, why not try the new phone without the SIM…got nothing to lose” and lo and behold the Iphone6S and BMW immediately started connecting.

Thought I would share the fix that worked on 2 phones that the X5 couldn’t pair with, not being technical I assume the SIM has somehow over ridden the blue tooth connectivity, have some friends trying it out with other cars as well.

Great Forum, I joined as I wanted to share as I have learnt so much and love my X5.

Cheers,
OldbrownX5
2006 3.0D Sport, Kalahari Beige.

phantomcom 11-30-2015 11:47 AM

I have a 2007 X3 that recently the bluetooth stopped working. When trying to Pair the BMW device doesn't even come up on my phone. I pulled the unit from the car and opened it. I have some circuit board level ability. The unit obviously took on some water at some point and is non functional and I don't think I can fix it. Funny, the unit is actually manufactured in 2009, so this unit has already been replaced once. It is a BMW TCU1.5 IBUS US.
I have found numerous potential replacements on ebay but I'm not sure what is compatible. I am only interested in getting the bluetooth portion of whatever this does back functioning. My unit is this:
84.10 9195455-02
169211 15
MEX 06.07.2009 R.23.07.2009
BMW TCU1.5 IBUS US
SW:0A.09
BT:001C12CDECFB

I'm not sure what will work in it's place. If I understand correctly a MOST unit will not work, it must be IBUS? There lost of units that are described as Ibus TCU but show on their label BMW TCU1.5 MOST US. I have also found units that say BMW Everest IBUS US. Will that work? Some just say BMW Everest E60US.

Does GSM matter if I'm only looking to get Bluetooth connectivity?

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

KDAWG97M3 11-30-2015 12:32 PM

I wanted to report back. I gave in. Found a wrecked 06 this morning. Snagged the used module (25.00 ��) Bluetooth works!!! Thanks for everyone's help. Turns out my module was dead.

Qsilver7 11-30-2015 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantomcom (Post 1060157)
I have a 2007 X3 that recently the bluetooth stopped working. When trying to Pair the BMW device doesn't even come up on my phone. I pulled the unit from the car and opened it. I have some circuit board level ability. The unit obviously took on some water at some point and is non functional and I don't think I can fix it. Funny, the unit is actually manufactured in 2009, so this unit has already been replaced once. It is a BMW TCU1.5 IBUS US.
I have found numerous potential replacements on ebay but I'm not sure what is compatible. I am only interested in getting the bluetooth portion of whatever this does back functioning. My unit is this:
84.10 9195455-02
169211 15
MEX 06.07.2009 R.23.07.2009
BMW TCU1.5 IBUS US
SW:0A.09
BT:001C12CDECFB

I'm not sure what will work in it's place. If I understand correctly a MOST unit will not work, it must be IBUS? There lost of units that are described as Ibus TCU but show on their label BMW TCU1.5 MOST US. I have also found units that say BMW Everest IBUS US. Will that work? Some just say BMW Everest E60US.

Does GSM matter if I'm only looking to get Bluetooth connectivity?

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Click the following link to see the units that are compatible and retrospectively exchangeable...they are listed by their BMW 11 digit part nbrs (that are compatible with BMW part # 84 10 9 195 455 you gave us) and the models they were used in: RealOEM.com - Part Search

electricalserv x5 11-30-2015 11:21 PM

good to hear............

AV8R4AA 12-04-2015 07:34 PM

I have a February 2004 X5.
I know my TCU module is dead.
Can I buy a newer TCU Module and get the Bluetooth
system to work?

jgold47 12-04-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV8R4AA (Post 1060577)
I have a February 2004 X5.
I know my TCU module is dead.
Can I buy a newer TCU Module and get the Bluetooth
system to work?

Yes - I have one for sale too...

AV8R4AA 12-05-2015 10:54 PM

Does the Bluetooth feature let you play songs from the iPhone?

KDAWG97M3 12-05-2015 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV8R4AA (Post 1060690)
Does the Bluetooth feature let you play songs from the iPhone?

No


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