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nebilex 05-12-2016 09:52 PM

DISA Valve kit
 
how many of you have done DISA valve repair kit (GAS) vs X8R metallic flap version? Do you guys recommend buying new instead of doing the rebuild kit.

Update:
Pulled the DISA out as to prepare it for Tuesday when the kit arrives. I am lucky I tilted the DISA down as i pulled it out because as soon as i got to the work bench and i turned it around the pin fell out. It took me 20min to get the rubber seal out since it was dry and kept breaking, but also whoever took this out in the past used some sort of gasket maker when reinstalling it. Gasket maker was a pain to clean up as well. i'm just glad i caught it in time.

squidzilla 05-12-2016 10:05 PM

I did it on each of the I6 e53s I have.

I have no regrets. If you want to cover all of your bases you can buy a new DISA from them with the GAS kit installed.

tmv 05-13-2016 10:09 AM

I used the GAS kit on the old 525i and the old 3.0i
If the diaphragm is still working, I would just get the kit instead of the new DISA.

Ricky Bobby 05-13-2016 10:12 AM

^^:iagree: would rather rebuild my perfectly good part with even better parts for $85 - mine is 2+ years and going strong

nebilex 05-13-2016 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1077857)
^^:iagree: would rather rebuild my perfectly good part with even better parts for $85 - mine is 2+ years and going strong

Thanks everyone. Parts ordered, should be here by Thursday, knowing my luck, the pin will drop on Wednesday :banghead: so the car is parked until i change it. :-)

Dark_stranger 05-16-2016 07:36 AM

I fitted the XR8 Metal flap kit. I had an engine management light on and checked the Disa flap and it was missing. So had to remove the manifold, etc. to make sure the flap & pin was down there. It wasn't, so unsure where it had gone. Fitted the flap and the quality was second to none, with the pin running through the whole flap and not just the top bit.

Also, just so happens the company is only based a few miles away.

nebilex 05-16-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_stranger (Post 1078028)
I fitted the XR8 Metal flap kit. I had an engine management light on and checked the Disa flap and it was missing. So had to remove the manifold, etc. to make sure the flap & pin was down there. It wasn't, so unsure where it had gone. Fitted the flap and the quality was second to none, with the pin running through the whole flap and not just the top bit.

Also, just so happens the company is only based a few miles away.

Yeah the product looks really well built. I actually ended up getting the regular replacement which was about half the price. i would have definitely bought the XR8 if i was planning to keep the car longer.

4.8iS Le Mans_NZ 05-16-2016 07:04 PM

The German Auto Solutions DISA valve repair kit is one of thee best upgrades you can do on your M54 engine, IMHO.
The valve was making a 'ticking' noise at idle on my E39 530iT and upon removal was found to be badly worn, with the pivot pin partially migrated.
The GAS kit has well-engineered, high quality parts, clear instructions and is also reasonably priced.
You can do the mod in 30 minutes and you won't lose any more sleep, knowing that the flapper valve pin won't end up inside your engine.

nebilex 05-16-2016 08:04 PM

Parts came in today.. Here is the before and after picture.. sorry for the crappy iphone pics...
[IMG]http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...psxd0sa7nz.jpg[/IMG]

Ricky Bobby 05-17-2016 09:31 AM

Does the GAS kit not come with a flush mount titanium bolt anymore and they switched to something with a rounded head up top? Nice work, been a couple years but mine went in a bit different I think.

nebilex 05-17-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1078113)
Does the GAS kit not come with a flush mount titanium bolt anymore and they switched to something with a rounded head up top? Nice work, been a couple years but mine went in a bit different I think.

I got the kit from my local euro imports place.. The kit was $40.

Ricky Bobby 05-17-2016 10:29 AM

Ahhh that explains it

TiminIndy 04-19-2018 12:21 AM

I had my DISA valve off today because I was replacing my lower intake boot. I cleaned up and inspected the DISA and it was in pretty good shape. Appears to be the original, and the car has 116K mi on the odometer. No damage to the flap at all, it stays open, and when I manually close it, it pops right back to open when I let go. I saw a vacuum test on one of the DIY videos, where you close the flap, then hold a finger over the hole, and see if it stays closed until you release your finger. I tried this and it moves towards open about 1/4", then holds there until I release my finger from the hole. I assume this is indicative of a slight leak in one of the diaphragms, but I'm not sure. The car runs fine and there are no codes, so I guess there is no immediate need to replace it. I thought about the rebuild kit, but it doesn't have anything for the diaphragms, so I don't know that it's necessary at this point.

At a minimum, I would like to replace the O-Ring, but realoem.com doesn't show a part number for that. A bunch of O-rings from ebay come up when you do a Google search, but I don't know who to trust there. Does anyone have any suggestions for an O-ring source?

80stech 04-19-2018 01:15 AM

The Ebay one in a bag for $2 works well. It is #140 o-ring and makes for a bit of a tight fit. #139 is a bit easier to install.

TiminIndy 04-19-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80stech (Post 1132936)
The Ebay one in a bag for $2 works well. It is #140 o-ring and makes for a bit of a tight fit. #139 is a bit easier to install.

There are so many different sellers on ebay for the O-ring.

I guess I will go with this guy; he has 2,100 transactions, 100% approval:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-DISA-Va...5R9qO2&vxp=mtr

BMW DISA Valve Fluorosilicone O-ring Replacement M54 Engine

Our Fluorosilicone O-ring is a military spec, aerospace grade product Excellent temperature extreme and compression set properties, plus excellent resistance to fuel and oil.

This is the "Mother of all O-rings" for reliability!

Fifty150hs 04-19-2018 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiminIndy (Post 1132933)
I had my DISA valve off today because I was replacing my lower intake boot. I cleaned up and inspected the DISA and it was in pretty good shape. Appears to be the original, and the car has 116K mi on the odometer. No damage to the flap at all, it stays open, and when I manually close it, it pops right back to open when I let go. I saw a vacuum test on one of the DIY videos, where you close the flap, then hold a finger over the hole, and see if it stays closed until you release your finger. I tried this and it moves towards open about 1/4", then holds there until I release my finger from the hole. I assume this is indicative of a slight leak in one of the diaphragms, but I'm not sure. The car runs fine and there are no codes, so I guess there is no immediate need to replace it. I thought about the rebuild kit, but it doesn't have anything for the diaphragms, so I don't know that it's necessary at this point.

At a minimum, I would like to replace the O-Ring, but realoem.com doesn't show a part number for that. A bunch of O-rings from ebay come up when you do a Google search, but I don't know who to trust there. Does anyone have any suggestions for an O-ring source?

The YOutube video I found before replacing my DISA valve flap and pin with a bolt showed that the flap doesn't stay fully closed. It moves about a quarter turn and stops. Then opens fully when you take your thumb off the diaphragm inlet. So this seems to be normal.

TiminIndy 04-20-2018 10:34 PM

I was going to order that fluorosilicone O-ring, then found this seller with one that is supposed to be Dupont Viton:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172971081031

I figured, if Viton is good enough for my OFHG, it's good enough for the DISA.

Then I looked further and realized that Viton (FKM) temp range only goes down to -15°F.
Range: -26°C (-15°F) to +205°/230°C (+400°/440°F)

fluorosilicone (FVMQ) is good down to -100°F.
Range: -73°C (-100°F) to +177°C (+350°F)

I guess 15 below is about as cold as it ever gets around here and that is pretty rare. Worst case scenario is a little vacuum leak on a very cold start, but I will probably be more concerned with frozen CCV sludge at those temps!

(some may remember that the failure for the space shuttle Challenger was due to failure of a Dupont Viton O-ring caused by freezing weather the night before the launch)

80stech 04-20-2018 11:22 PM

If you go with the #140 there is a little bit of extra rubber which makes it harder to install but maybe is a good thing at colder temps. I run both the #140 and #139 in two different vehicles and they have seen -30's and have had no problem. That being said I think I would like to try the flourosilicon next time.

TiminIndy 04-20-2018 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80stech (Post 1133063)
If you go with the #140 there is a little bit of extra rubber which makes it harder to install but maybe is a good thing at colder temps. I run both the #140 and #139 in two different vehicles and they have seen -30's and have had no problem. That being said I think I would like to try the flourosilicon next time.

I asked both sellers if they were #139 or #140. First one never answered and the second one didn't know, but is sure it is the right one...

bcredliner 04-21-2018 01:29 PM

At 116K on the DISA valve I would just replace it. It's an inexpensive part.


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