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electricalserv x5 10-09-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucklez (Post 1089979)
Welp I couldnt find anyone who had them in stock for pickup so I placed a order for one on ECSTuning should be here Wednesday or Thursday and will install it then.

Just another note for the story if it helps others. Yesterday I drove the car all day fine no issues not even a battery symbol on the dash besides one or two times. Go to start the car this morning? Deader than a door nail, it barely started and eventually stalled out and wouldn't start again. I guess until I get that part I will have to just keep my X5 on a charger.

@electricalserv x5: I do drive my X5 daily. Only times I don't is once and a while when I have off school and work on the same day I usually relax and get stuff done at home so it sits undriven for a day. But yeah even though my battery "Checked" out fine according to Sams Club, where I bought it, they also showed that it only had 730 out of the 900 cold cranking amps it should have and when I tested the battery myself it kinda fluctuated between 11.3V and 12.3V so after I replace this I will definitely go back and try and have them give me a new battery before winter. After that its time to finish changing suspension on the drivers side, already finished the passengers, and replace the break pads before winter and she "SHOULD" be all good to go hopefully!

I know the feeling, I have the same exact x5 , I have 107k miles and I repaired a ton of the major oil leaks, But this ISM is the brains to the electrical of the fuel,engine .Lets Us know as most post I seen there is never a resolution to the problems.

bcredliner 10-09-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucklez (Post 1089979)
Welp I couldnt find anyone who had them in stock for pickup so I placed a order for one on ECSTuning should be here Wednesday or Thursday and will install it then.

Just another note for the story if it helps others. Yesterday I drove the car all day fine no issues not even a battery symbol on the dash besides one or two times. Go to start the car this morning? Deader than a door nail, it barely started and eventually stalled out and wouldn't start again. I guess until I get that part I will have to just keep my X5 on a charger.

@electricalserv x5: I do drive my X5 daily. Only times I don't is once and a while when I have off school and work on the same day I usually relax and get stuff done at home so it sits undriven for a day. But yeah even though my battery "Checked" out fine according to Sams Club, where I bought it, they also showed that it only had 730 out of the 900 cold cranking amps it should have and when I tested the battery myself it kinda fluctuated between 11.3V and 12.3V so after I replace this I will definitely go back and try and have them give me a new battery before winter. After that its time to finish changing suspension on the drivers side, already finished the passengers, and replace the break pads before winter and she "SHOULD" be all good to go hopefully!

If the battery is fully charged the cold cranking amps should be near/at spec. If battery is OK, when fully charged it should be 12.5-6 volts. I would disconnect the battery, fully charge it and check it the next morning to see if it had lost voltage. It could be also be a bad ground or fluctuating alternator voltage. If an X5 has a good battery and no parasitic drains it can set for several weeks and still start fine.

Chucklez 10-12-2016 05:13 PM

Okay soo got the new IVM plugged it in and turned the car over, no errors so far besides low battery... great so I go and put on a battery charger and it shows it actually being almost dead. So I have her on charge right now so hopefully in a few hours I will take it on a drive and see if I still get the weird electronic issues. Hoping this fixes it!

crystalworks 10-13-2016 11:00 AM

Hopefully the IVM fixes it. If not, your symptoms certainly fit a failing voltage regulator on the alternator. Sometimes it will put out 14+v and other times it will drop down. I had your symptoms and a new alternator was the resolution. Fortunately an alternator on the N62 isn't too bad of a job.

Chucklez 10-13-2016 04:41 PM

Sooo so far it doesnt look like it has fixed the problem at all. still having the exact same issues it seems. Welp crap this isnt good...

EDIT: Just checked the alternator its now showing only 10v~ what the heck is going on the other day it was just showing 14v... So I guess next step is replace the alternator?

bcredliner 10-13-2016 07:03 PM

Could have been 14V the other day. Sometimes they jump up and down when they begin to fail. You can monitor the alternator by unlocking the cluster. There are Youtube videos if that is not how you tested it. 14.3-4V is about normal for the alternator.

upallnight 10-13-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucklez (Post 1089896)
Hey guys me again! I swear every other month I got a weird issue with this car or something going bad on it...

Anyway so recently (past month or so) I was having massive battery drain issues from a faulty upper trunk hatch latch. Since then I have fixed it by just straight up unplugging it since at the moment I couldn't swing the $300+ dollars for the repair and it's not totally essential the car drives with with no trunk access.

Oddly enough once that got fixed I still was having weird battery issues. Car showing low battery or completely not starting at times, once I even had the car just completely die on me while driving. So I assumed it was the alternator right? Well I turn the car on and test that with a voltage meter and it's showing 14v output. So then I was like alright maybe it's the battery doing weird things, test the battery it shows 12v with the car off and took it to get tested and it showed it as all good.

So now I'm stumped and it's getting weirder and weirder. I haven't had my car die on me completely or anything but if it sits for over a die without starting the car battery is completely drained or dead won't start. Even if I do drive it every day, I ALWAYS get the red battery light on the dash which sometimes eventually goes away and other times my car completely goes into limp mode, 4x4 warning flashes on and off and on and off break warning on and off until it weirdly stabilizes and I get wherever I need in transmission failsafe mode.

Sooo yeah I have no idea what to do besides just buy a new alternator and test it? Any other ideas guys? Also per usual sorry for crap formatting if it is typing on my phone.

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Originally Posted by Chucklez (Post 1089979)
Welp I couldnt find anyone who had them in stock for pickup so I placed a order for one on ECSTuning should be here Wednesday or Thursday and will install it then.

Just another note for the story if it helps others. Yesterday I drove the car all day fine no issues not even a battery symbol on the dash besides one or two times. Go to start the car this morning? Deader than a door nail, it barely started and eventually stalled out and wouldn't start again. I guess until I get that part I will have to just keep my X5 on a charger.

@electricalserv x5: I do drive my X5 daily. Only times I don't is once and a while when I have off school and work on the same day I usually relax and get stuff done at home so it sits undriven for a day. But yeah even though my battery "Checked" out fine according to Sams Club, where I bought it, they also showed that it only had 730 out of the 900 cold cranking amps it should have and when I tested the battery myself it kinda fluctuated between 11.3V and 12.3V so after I replace this I will definitely go back and try and have them give me a new battery before winter. After that its time to finish changing suspension on the drivers side, already finished the passengers, and replace the break pads before winter and she "SHOULD" be all good to go hopefully!

I would take the battery to somewhere else and have it tested. A good battery should be closer to 12.6 volt if it is fully charged and good, the fact that it only tested 12v leads me to think that you have a dead cell in the battery. How old is the battery? The fact that Sam club tested the battery to only have 730 CCA which mean it is down 18.8% leads me to think that you battery is going bad.

Chucklez 10-13-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1090340)
Could have been 14V the other day. Sometimes they jump up and down when they begin to fail. You can monitor the alternator by unlocking the cluster. There are Youtube videos if that is not how you tested it. 14.3-4V is about normal for the alternator.

Well that will be the next thing I test when I have the time, unfortunately it wont be till maybe Saturday night maybe Sunday.

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1090343)
I would take the battery to somewhere else and have it tested. A good battery should be closer to 12.6 volt if it is fully charged and good, the fact that it only tested 12v leads me to think that you have a dead cell in the battery. How old is the battery? The fact that Sam club tested the battery to only have 730 CCA which mean it is down 18.8% leads me to think that you battery is going bad.

The battery is maybe a year old if that. I will take it somewhere else to get it tested possibly autozone tomorrow if I have the time. Thats what I was thinking too honestly I dont see how it could show only 730CCA out of 900 and they say its good. Especially when they tested it it was 60*F outside I could understand if it was like 20*F but not 60.

Also I guess another thing to add, I did end up buying that new upper trunk latch and the car still doesn't think the trunk is closed when I go to lock it. Plugged it in the and the first few times it locked the car fine but now its back to its old self where the trunk lights constantly stay on and the hatch never thinks its shut even though it physically is and the mechanism works. I seriously dont get this car at all.

crystalworks 10-13-2016 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucklez (Post 1090346)
The battery is maybe a year old if that. I will take it somewhere else to get it tested possibly autozone tomorrow if I have the time. Thats what I was thinking too honestly I dont see how it could show only 730CCA out of 900 and they say its good. Especially when they tested it it was 60*F outside I could understand if it was like 20*F but not 60.

Also I guess another thing to add, I did end up buying that new upper trunk latch and the car still doesn't think the trunk is closed when I go to lock it. Plugged it in the and the first few times it locked the car fine but now its back to its old self where the trunk lights constantly stay on and the hatch never thinks its shut even though it physically is and the mechanism works. I seriously dont get this car at all.

Get the battery checked because it's free... but I'm still leaning towards voltage regulator on the alternator.

As for your trunk latch. Have you tried manually pushing the trunk lid down a little to see if the light goes off? The bump stops for the lid might need adjusting if it is pushing the trunk lid out a little bit so the truck things the hatch is open. Seen that happen before on these.

Chucklez 10-13-2016 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1090353)
Get the battery checked because it's free... but I'm still leaning towards voltage regulator on the alternator.

As for your trunk latch. Have you tried manually pushing the trunk lid down a little to see if the light goes off? The bump stops for the lid might need adjusting if it is pushing the trunk lid out a little bit so the truck things the hatch is open. Seen that happen before on these.

I haven't tried it that I know of but I've opened and shut it plenty of times and it always closes itself shut and I THINK I've pressed down on the hatch and nothing happens with the lights still think its on.

On the battery I've had it checked by the place I bought it from twice now and both times they said the battery charged fine and checked out fine. So I will go to another place now and get a second opinion in the morning.


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