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SRacin 11-15-2017 06:27 PM

Vibration During Acceleration from Front drive
 
Hi All,

I have googled the hell out of this and still struggling to get a solid consensus on what the issues is or what next to diagnose. So here is the summary;

2004 e53 4.8is 147,000ks (about 90k Miles)
Issues.

1. Under light to medium acceleration there is a vibration which results in a rumbling noise coming from the front and through the floor pan.
2. Harsh 2-1 shift.
3. Sometimes the transmission forgets to shift under light acceleration, rather than a normal 2k ish shift it will go all the way to 4-5k rpm.

Pulling Fuse 46 for the x-drive (which causes lots of warning lights) disables the transfer case and the noise is no longer apparent. Thus isolating it to something to do with the front drive system.

Looking back through receipts from the previous owner it appears they have had a garage try to fix this before. In trying to diagnose they have;

-Replaced the chain in the transfer box.
-Replace the driveshaft roller bearings and center bearings. (unclear if front or rear)
-Replaced transfer box oil with VTG oil.
-Wheels balanced, Alignment done. Tyres all near new. Front right lower arm replaced by wheel alignment shop.

Supposedly the transmission has also had an expensive rebuild also, but I am waiting on the transmission shop to share details of this. They said due to privacy they had to consult the previous owner before releasing details.

After many hours of googling I discovered this site;

Everything about your ZF 6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28 transmission issues | BMW LOGIC7

This site eludes to the issue possibly being relate to the front flex Guibo joint.
The engine does not appear to rock around with rpm so not thinking it is engine mount related.

Couldn't really see the condition of the front flex disc to inspect with out removal. Figure if I am going to take it out to inspect I may as well replace it.

Any other suggestions or consensus on diagnosis or where else to look?

electricalserv x5 11-15-2017 10:14 PM

could just be your motor mounts also..............

SRacin 11-15-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by electricalserv x5 (Post 1121089)
could just be your motor mounts also..............

Thought so also. But is smooth as when fuse 46 pulled.

BigBody 11-15-2017 10:51 PM

Have you tried balancing the wheels?

SRacin 11-15-2017 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBody (Post 1121093)
Have you tried balancing the wheels?

Yes. Wheel balance and alignment done. Suspension inspected by trusted wheel alignment shop and one front lower arm replaced.


If was wheel alignment I would not have suspected that the noise goes away with fuse 46 pulled.

amancuso 11-16-2017 05:03 AM

Mine has a rumble at slow speed in first gear too. It’s not worrisome to me at least. My shifting issues were solved with a remanufactured valve body and solenoids from revmax.


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CleanIsFast 11-16-2017 08:29 AM

guibo and center support bearing can cause vibration if they are worn out

Transmission woes on 4.6/4.8 platform has been talked about extensively

donmayor 11-16-2017 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBody (Post 1121093)
Have you tried balancing the wheels?


do you guys trust a regular shop to do wheel alignment and balancing or just BMW dealership and indy shops?

SRacin 11-16-2017 05:05 PM

Have been racing cars for years and have a guy who I trust to set my race and rally car up. Basically take it to him regardless of which shop he happens to be working at. I think it takes a while to find someone you trust. Most shops that have modern alignment machines can operate the gear, but its when it gets into fault finding, or fine tuning its the experience of the operator that counts.

amancuso 11-17-2017 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by amancuso (Post 1121110)
Mine has a rumble at slow speed in first gear too. It’s not worrisome to me at least. My shifting issues were solved with a remanufactured valve body and solenoids from revmax.


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Actually drove my car today and there's no vibration, only a sound. Sounds more like the crappy Achilles tires. Will be getting some new ones in the Spring.


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