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JACIII 12-26-2017 05:24 PM

No passenger door control from central locking or drivers window switch
 
So, how does this darned thing work? The passenger side window control switch will operate the window. The driver side control does not operate the passenger window or the mirror. Central locking does not work on passenger lock.
I read the switch units are not just switches, but control the door functions. Do I replace the passenger box, or the drivers side box? Is the a connector I need to peruse?

Thanks,
Jim

2003 e53 3.0

Crowz 12-26-2017 06:06 PM

You are pressing it more than once right? I know on mine the first press is the drivers door and the second press gets the other doors.

Overboost 12-26-2017 06:13 PM

I have a driver door module I just took out of my 2004 X5 if you want to try it. It pops right out and would take 30 seconds to see if that's what it needs.

JACIII 12-26-2017 06:15 PM

Only referring to the actual physical switches on the doors. Do I understand correctly that the switch housing are actually control modules?

Overboost 12-26-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACIII (Post 1124690)
Only referring to the actual physical switches on the doors. Do I understand correctly that the switch housing are actually control modules?

Yep, they are rather large if you pop yours out. 3 multipin connectors for mirrors and windows.

JACIII 12-26-2017 08:02 PM

Argh! If these things didn't drive like a sports sedan.... I guess replacing modules is better than running down 10 miles of wire though!

Overboost, Thanks for the offer. I believe I will try the passenger module first, though.

Thanks for the info guys! Much appreciated.

Overboost 12-26-2017 08:19 PM

I'm confused. I thought you said your passenger side switch operated the passenger window but the drivers side swich did not operate the passenger window. Why would you want to replace the one that's working?

JACIII 12-26-2017 09:02 PM

I'm thinking it is the pass through circuits as nothing on the door operates from external input including the lock actuator and mirror.

Vonbimmer 12-27-2017 10:53 AM

I had an identical issue where the passenger door window could be operated from the door but the door lock, window and mirro could not be operated from the drivers side or central lock.

After swapping switches on both doors and still having issues I took apart the harness in the door jam to find that a single pin had corroded off. I rigged a quick splice to test the theory and sure enough this single ping impacted all three functions.

That said I’m in the Sierras so we are fairly arid but some car wash or ice melt fluid must have been bathing this area. The pin itself is slimmer than a toothpick so it isn’t robust enough to deal with much.

Hope this helps the troubleshooting process

Qsilver7 12-27-2017 02:13 PM

The central locking and door control modules (PM-SB/BT & PM-SB/FT) communicate over the P-bus. So an understanding of the P-bus and it's major control module (the GM) may be helpful in understanding how the data/commands travel. You can also do a search on the BMW TIS website...try typing in the last 7 digits of your VIN...then use the search box to help find what you're looking for: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/

You can get a lot of info like pin-out and wiring diagrams for the aforementioned modules on the TIS website. ;)

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Brads2002 01-13-2020 10:09 PM

Guys I am having this exact same issue. Confirmed the door harness pins were fine. No mirror, window, lock, or light control from the drivers door. The window switch works on the passenger door. Do i need the drivers or passenger module?

Thanks

wpoll 01-13-2020 11:46 PM

Driver's door module - probably.

Brads2002 01-14-2020 12:55 PM

Thanks. Will see what I can find on eBay

wpoll 01-14-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brads2002 (Post 1175728)
Thanks. Will see what I can find on eBay

The fault is usually water ingress and then corrosion. They can be repaired pretty easily.

AWR-Fix: Door master module - https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...le-switch.html

Brads2002 01-14-2020 05:38 PM

Interesting, thanks for passing that along. Good to know about the drain idea too.

wpoll 01-14-2020 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brads2002 (Post 1175751)
Interesting, thanks for passing that along. Good to know about the drain idea too.

Will add a drain to mine next time I open it up but I avoid it getting wet anyway.. :thumbup:

Brads2002 01-25-2020 10:32 AM

Stepping back into this thread in search of help. I swapped the drivers side switch bank out and the symptoms are the same. I did buy a used one so I suppose it could also be at fault. Assuming its not what else should I be looking at? To recap no lock control, window control, mirror fold or adjustment, no light on triggered through the passenger door. The window, however, does work from the passenger side switch. Pins in the door jam wiring harness look fine. Thanks in advance.

Brads2002 01-26-2020 02:53 PM

I disassembled the switches and verified no water damage to the inside so I’m guessing the driver side is working as it should.

wpoll 01-26-2020 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brads2002 (Post 1176584)
I disassembled the switches and verified no water damage to the inside so I’m guessing the driver side is working as it should.

Given you have failures in so many systems, (windows, locks, mirrors etc.) it's likely the issue is in that module or something related to that module. Since you have (possibly) eliminated the module itself, then perhaps check the fuse - F20 (30A - in the glove compartment). After that, maybe check the ground connection... :dunno:

Door Module (A23) - https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...0i-sav/bK8Vbdp

Grounds - https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...0i-sav/wIhUwP9

Brads2002 01-26-2020 09:12 PM

Thanks for the tip. I hadn't checked the fuses so its always good to start with the basics. They were good so I pulled out the passenger side switch. Not sure what exactly was going on in there but under one of the connectors was an oily film. I opened the switch up and inside there was oil here and there. I cleaned the connector, plugged it back in and all is working as normal.
Its interesting that the passenger and driver have the same connectors. I was expecting a lot less wiring with one switch vs all that is going on over on the drivers side. I took the opportunity to drill some little drain holes in the bottom just in case water ever does find its way in.

CapeX5 01-26-2020 10:39 PM

I just went thru this and followed the TIS. You need the passenger side window switch. All kinds of stuff for the door goes thru that. Found one on $bay for like $25. Simple fix


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