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lahermano 10-07-2018 11:12 AM

P0599 2005 x5 please help...
 
Hi pro's
I am getting P0599 on my 2005 x5. It this always thermostat ?
I don't have any drivability or over heating issues.

What to look for as proper diagnosis ?
Any ideas

andrewwynn 10-07-2018 11:45 AM

Diagnostic steps on this page: https://www.obd-codes.com/p0599

First things: coolant level full? Check wiring to the thermostat the error is saying there's a short in the tstat circuit.

Secondly: check the actual temperature of the coolant with the hidden menu. Reset the code and from a cold start see what the temperature is when the code trips.

I would say very good chance the internal electrics have failed and you will have to replace the thermostat. Not a terrible job, one of the first did on my X5. Don't try to avoid removing the fan is not worth the effort.

lahermano 10-07-2018 12:36 PM

Thanks for the approach.
I did coolant flush as it was due anyways yesterday and code still came after reset.

I did thermostat replacement 6 yrs ago and yeah i did remove the fan and easy job. Just wanted to confirm if thermostat was the real issue before replacement. Will check the connectors and temperature as suggested

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1143580)
Diagnostic steps on this page: https://www.obd-codes.com/p0599

First things: coolant level full? Check wiring to the thermostat the error is saying there's a short in the tstat circuit.

Secondly: check the actual temperature of the coolant with the hidden menu. Reset the code and from a cold start see what the temperature is when the code trips.

I would say very good chance the internal electrics have failed and you will have to replace the thermostat. Not a terrible job, one of the first did on my X5. Don't try to avoid removing the fan is not worth the effort.


270_BMW 10-07-2018 02:09 PM

After replacing the thermostat it couldn’t hurt to replace the temperature sensor as well... what engine do you have?

Also a cracked coolant resivoir is common on this series of vehicle.

andrewwynn 10-07-2018 02:36 PM

Since the error is specific to electrical fault (short high) first try to rule out wiring including disconnect connector If the internal sensor/heater shorted out giving the error the problem will migrate.

Example: you are getting a shorted high signal that should happen if the wiring has an insulation break and is shorted across two wires (hot and signal). If you unplug and still have the same error the short is in the wiring.

If you unplug the tstat and the error becomes "open signal to tstat" well the. You have your answer: short internal.

You can probably find online what Ω values the connector to the tstat should read. I don't even know how many wires it has or if it's a temp sensor or heater or both. I thought it was both .

lahermano 10-07-2018 04:18 PM

I have 3.0 and yes you were spot on the darn expansion tank blew on the highway 5 yrs ago and i replaced that along with the hoses.
There is no loss of coolant from that point. If i do the thermostat i will replace the temperature sensor as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 270_BMW (Post 1143586)
After replacing the thermostat it couldn’t hurt to replace the temperature sensor as well... what engine do you have?

Also a cracked coolant resivoir is common on this series of vehicle.


lahermano 10-07-2018 04:35 PM

perfect aproach to rule out if tstat is the issue or wiring. Will also check the resistance. Will try that and update the thread.
Also this code p0599 seem generic from a obdII scanner. Do you think there would be specific hidden BMW error code totally different ? just a thought

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1143588)
Since the error is specific to electrical fault (short high) first try to rule out wiring including disconnect connector If the internal sensor/heater shorted out giving the error the problem will migrate.

Example: you are getting a shorted high signal that should happen if the wiring has an insulation break and is shorted across two wires (hot and signal). If you unplug and still have the same error the short is in the wiring.

If you unplug the tstat and the error becomes "open signal to tstat" well the. You have your answer: short internal.

You can probably find online what Ω values the connector to the tstat should read. I don't even know how many wires it has or if it's a temp sensor or heater or both. I thought it was both .


andrewwynn 10-07-2018 08:15 PM

Doubt it the "generic" code is pretty specific "tstat high voltage" or such


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