sumpgaurd plate and transmission axle cover
 

Ok saga goes on apart from having two bolts missing after some work done on X (i think i can replace em) I noticed that on underside under driver/passenger area as per pic that the 'lip' in yellow (one on each side) of plastic cover for transmission axle are fitted over the metal sump gaurd plate....anyone have any idea if the 'lip' in yellow should fit/slide under sump gaurd...if yes when I go tomorrow will ask the guy to get it on the ramp and put it on correctly. i will struggle to do it on the floor myself...total friggin nightmare.....:( scanned online but there are no pics of the underside of an X5 as it is on an elevated ramp, pics online show that part totally removed revealing axel....ANy input great

Looks correct. There are something like five tabs on the front of the transmission shield (I think) - three go over the reinforcement plate and two go under. Meaning you should be able to see two tabs.

Same as mine...

http://i63.tinypic.com/24b67vk.jpg

Wpoll cheers you saved me alot of time ...was gonna argue with starter man to take it off and re install so those 2 tabs become concealed by the metal sump gaurd....your pic i can clearly see the one tab and i guess in the distance other one is in same position too.

Been one hell of a struggle this starter....going back to be given my olr one tomorrow for reference purposes...thanks once again

Ps your underbelly near along its width near the tabs has some sort of wing...have no idea if mine had or not...seems like something that would deflect water down?

Yep same on the other side. Would need the car on a hoist to get a decent picture. :rolleyes:

Thanks and you have gone out of your way again to help cheers....just wondering about that wing like black rubber along the edge...pretty sure didnt see it on mine when he removed the whole tray....guess will just have to live without it....on realoem couldnt locate the trim i referred to with the tabs on...and the yo yo lost one bolt securing it to underbody and one screw in wheelnarch that secures a flap of plastic trim to the car....just have to improvise see wot fits....ok wpoll keep ya posted on wether or not battety starts to labour. So far so good but been driving it more as we have rain...yup miracle for cyprus

That wing thing is bugging me...better sleep on it...may make one out of a wiper blade , just glue it on....okay fella have a good day

Not sure what part you are referring to here... I'm pretty sure the transmission shield is a single piece item (with some thin alloy heat shielding in one or two locations on the inside). No trim pieces associated with it.

bit in yellow and pretty sure it must have something to do with forcing water down and stopping it from getting into the rest of the 'belly' havent got a clue what the hell to ask for wheni walk into bmw part dept...i guess pic says it all

Nope - nothing there - that's just the front edge of the moulded plastic shield.

There is also some sound insulation on this shield, making it heavy.

You can see it here - part #7.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/images/diag_37kq.png

Mr. Wpoll you are too right, that 'wing' was an actual moulding part of underside tray, not extra wing as I called it....optical illusion of my photo!


As for screws and bits missing well not gonna lose sleep over it, besides the realoem site shows slight variation...if you see my 'screw' on bottom right photo it is not the same as the one on realoem site maybe got my wires crossed in another post you say it is an expanding rivet i am looking for, pic on bottom left is where its missing on the other side....I am just gonna try to screw in a plastic screw i have handy and put a largish washer on it...thanks again you have saved me embarrassment of going at mr.annakis today and accusing him of puting parts he took off back on wrong...so owe ya one He will be giving my old denso back.....very tempted ot put it in the dishwasher to clean (apart from solenoid) and idea if its a bad idea?

You're right - RealOEM shows a sheet metal screw (#9) and a speed nut (#13) in the rear position. Not sure how this works, as on mine (at least, when I got it) there were OEM expanding rivets in that location - through both parts #5 and #6 and into a hole on the the subframe.

But I guess whatever works to secure it. ;)

hahahah you say tomay toe I say tom ah toe...I will figure it out....I stuck in a plastic screw that holds down carpets in the hole for now..and thank god my paranoia got better of me...those stains that looked like oil are not oil, as they are not there today so must have been water draining that has since dried out....phew have a good weekend fella

Hmmm another long time member of xoutpost pm me his x5 facelift 3 .0d doesnt have those tabs visible....dunno may give it a bash tommorrow whilst its on the ground see if comes off and if i can slide in the tabs in beteeen the metal sump gaurd...either that or go see if i can get under anothe x5 on the streets

Do you mind helping me out with a part number for number 7? When I look at RealOEM number 7 is not called out in the only location I can find it shown. Neither of my X5's has this shield. I'm thinking lazy mechanics may have removed and not reinstalled in the past. Thanks!

Then his cover is not installed correctly. The tabs in my picture are exactly where they are meant to be. If you pull the shield off - and you will need axle stands to do this - it is very obvious how the front of the shield fits to the rear of the reinforcing plate.

Time to move on - your mechanic got it right. :thumbup:

The part number for mine 51717141495 but note that it's an LCI with an auto trans - it seem that this panel may not have been fitted to the earlier 3.0i cars...

Glad it was just water.... :thumbup:

Keep in mind that RealOEM (or even the dealer parts folk) aren't perfect and these cars underwent many revisions during their model life. Not all the parts diagrams are 100% correct for all cars...

Got my old starter back in bits today, and also got one of the lads at the shop with my aid to take off the tray...those tabs prevented it sliding forward enough for the securing bolts/holes to line up....so seems it was right all along as per your pic....he also replaced missing screw bolt and installed one of those plastic ones you referred too...another saga over....hope this christmas is car trouble free as over the last few years its either battery dying or cv boot splitting or sunroof jammin....all good in the end

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see below link and the pic...in yellow circle I don't see the bit we have on the 3.0d ....mind you if it is too much of a rip off to buy, am sure IF you have the holes in the subframe to secure it to you could make one out aluminium and/or plastic or even plexiglass...

https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...e_Removing.htm

Fella see this link below, seems not installed on all of them....


https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...e_Removing.htm

Thanks for that. I plugged it into RealOEM and it turns out they were only installed on the 3.0d.

Possibly due to the need for better noise control on the diesel. And cooler exhaust pipes! ;)