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Muleears 12-30-2018 10:13 AM

Airbag light, reset? Repair? Replace?
 
The light was on when I bought the X. No accident but it’s on. If I replace the module with a used one will it work or need to be coded to the car? Anyone tried “Myairbags.com” they claim to reset my module and turn off the light for $49. Any other options? Indy wants $1100 to replace the bag and modules. That ain’t gonna happen...
Many thanks for suggestions/input.


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Zulu95 12-30-2018 10:40 AM

First buy either software or code reader that will read the SRS system and show the code as to why the light is on. I had a phantom AB light for a while that came and went as it pleased. No fault codes displayed; turned out to be a faulty ignition switch since replaced.
On another occasion my wife took the '01 in to have a window regulator replaced. The idiots switched the ignition on with an AB disconnected and tripped the light. They counted on my wife missing it and it was on when I checked the vehicle later. A quick check with my Peake and a reset rectified the problem.
I now have a Foxwell 510 since we added a '13 Xdrive35I to the stable. The scanners pay for themselves in one or two "lights" be they engine or SRS or anything else related.

Overboost 12-30-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Muleears (Post 1150421)
The light was on when I bought the X. No accident but it’s on. If I replace the module with a used one will it work or need to be coded to the car? Anyone tried “Myairbags.com” they claim to reset my module and turn off the light for $49. Any other options? Indy wants $1100 to replace the bag and modules. That ain’t gonna happen...
Many thanks for suggestions/input.


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Your BMW Scanner 1.4 software will identify the fault and clear the code.

Muleears 12-30-2018 10:58 AM

Zulu95, I have an NT510 it tells me the code but I couldn’t remember what it was to put in my post.
Overboost, I look forward to being able to operate this software and stop bugging people here! When I have a chance I’ll read the code with the 510 and post it here.


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Muleears 12-30-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Muleears (Post 1150424)
Zulu95, I have an NT510 it tells me the code but I couldn’t remember what it was to put in my post.
Overboost, I look forward to being able to operate this software and stop bugging people here! When I have a chance I’ll read the code with the 510 and post it here.


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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a0b2a48eed.jpg

These are the codes. Sorry for the crappy pic!



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Muleears 12-30-2018 11:20 AM

I should have mentioned the passenger seat sensor apparently is bad. The belt has to be buckled all the time or the seat belt warning alerts.


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Overboost 12-30-2018 11:46 AM

You're not bugging us, that's what our forum is for. Answering questions to the best of our abilities for new X5 members. Here are some screenshots of the BMW Scanner 1.4 software. You can see all the sensors and faults and disable those you don't want until you can fix them. Keep in mind, disabling faults is not recommended, they are telling you that you are not safe in the event of a crash.

http://i.imgur.com/OjuUj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2EZYN.jpg

Muleears 12-30-2018 11:58 AM

Wow. I had no idea software with that detail was available. I couldn’t do anything like this with my Benz. I guess it’s good I made the switch! I have one of the cables, not sure which one, the other should arrive this week.


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Zulu95 12-30-2018 12:19 PM

Concur with OB that questions are what these forums should be about. I have saved a power of cash over the years thanks to direct answers I received or the results of searches.
Have you tried clearing the codes with the Foxwell to see if they come back?

Muleears 12-30-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulu95 (Post 1150437)
Concur with OB that questions are what these forums should be about. I have saved a power of cash over the years thanks to direct answers I received or the results of searches.
Have you tried clearing the codes with the Foxwell to see if they come back?



Yes, I tried to clear them but they come right back. The drivers side code is new, I hadn’t seen that one before.


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crystalworks 12-30-2018 02:17 PM

Odd to have so many go bad at once. From that readout on the foxwell it looks like steering wheel and dash board bags are bad (or unplugged). And maybe the passenger door airbag? Not sure about stage 1 vs stage 2. Could it just be a fuse? If you find what you need, I have a parts truck with all the bags here.

Fifty150hs 12-30-2018 02:43 PM

I kept getting an air bag light for driver's side stage 1. Could clear it and it would last awhile then come back. The last time I cleared it I ran the SRS system test. The test goes through and identifies all of the pieces of the SRS system. It's been over a month now and I haven't had the light come back yet. It got to the point it was popping up every couple of days before. Don't know why, but it seems fixed (knock wood).

Muleears 12-30-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1150465)
Odd to have so many go bad at once. From that readout on the foxwell it looks like steering wheel and dash board bags are bad (or unplugged). And maybe the passenger door airbag? Not sure about stage 1 vs stage 2. Could it just be a fuse? If you find what you need, I have a parts truck with all the bags here.



From what I learned from the PO, the light had been on for while, probably years. He thought it was a bad connection on the passenger bag. Either way, I want it off. I’ll figure out where exactly the problem is when I get the software up and running. I will definitely keep your parts truck in mind. Thanks.


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upallnight 12-31-2018 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1150465)
Odd to have so many go bad at once. From that readout on the foxwell it looks like steering wheel and dash board bags are bad (or unplugged). And maybe the passenger door airbag? Not sure about stage 1 vs stage 2. Could it just be a fuse? If you find what you need, I have a parts truck with all the bags here.

Stage 1 means that there is only one explosion when the airbag goes off and Stage 2 means there is two explosions that go off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRx0Oi8jXjg

Jeadiex5 01-01-2019 01:30 PM

I had the same thing and it was my sensor pad on my passenger seat. Bought a bypass sensor and seatbelt emulator (bought as a kit on Amazon or ebay and was sent from Ireland). Easy install and works flawlessly. Airbag will still deploy but will regardess if someone is sitting there or not.

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Muleears 01-02-2019 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5 (Post 1150619)
I had the same thing and it was my sensor pad on my passenger seat. Bought a bypass sensor and seatbelt emulator (bought as a kit on Amazon or ebay and was sent from Ireland). Easy install and works flawlessly. Airbag will still deploy but will regardess if someone is sitting there or not.

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I understand how this enulates the seat bucking, but how does it make the light go out? (found it on ebay for $15, from Ireland)I can buckkle the seat now and make the alarm stop but the light stays on.

andrewwynn 01-02-2019 06:19 AM

There is an implication that the light has to be reset with scan tool.

Muleears 01-02-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1150698)
There is an implication that the light has to be reset with scan tool.

Thanks andrewwynn. I have a 510, which I know the basics of its operation. I also have INPA, BMW 1.4(?) and an XP laptop, but don't yet know how to use them. It's my understanding one of these can do the job.

What if it's not the seat pad, it's instead a bad connection or a bad igniter. This won't still kill the light will it?

Thanks again!

Jeadiex5 01-02-2019 08:40 AM

The $15 part is the seat belt warning emulator. You may need the seat sensor bypass part as well. Small grey box with a couple of dip switches. Both work together as the seat thinks someone is always in it so the seat belt warning needs to be tricked. Also, many of these cars were covered under a recall. Mine was not far a strange reason but 90 percent were...check that out first.

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Muleears 01-02-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5 (Post 1150703)
The $15 part is the seat belt warning emulator. You may need the seat sensor bypass part as well. Small grey box with a couple of dip switches. Both work together as the seat thinks someone is always in it so the seat belt warning needs to be tricked. Also, many of these cars were covered under a recall. Mine was not far a strange reason but 90 percent were...check that out first.

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Thanks for the heads-up. I will look into both of these possibilities.

UPDATE: No outstanding recalls. So I guess I look at the emulator and software to find/sort/fix my problem. Thanks again! :thumbup::thumbup:

Fifty150hs 01-03-2019 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifty150hs (Post 1150469)
I kept getting an air bag light for driver's side stage 1. Could clear it and it would last awhile then come back. The last time I cleared it I ran the SRS system test. The test goes through and identifies all of the pieces of the SRS system. It's been over a month now and I haven't had the light come back yet. It got to the point it was popping up every couple of days before. Don't know why, but it seems fixed (knock wood).

Knew I was jinxing myself. Light showed up again yesterday. I cleared it and it was back today. Damn!

EODguy 01-03-2019 01:17 AM

If it's the sensor that's bad I'd just replace it.

Unless you want to stop by and give my ex-wife a ride to the nearest bridge abutment. [emoji38]

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Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 07:42 AM

Yup,mine was doing the same. Was the seat pad sensor. Got the bypass module and it fixed it. May be under recall also depending on VIN.

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andrewwynn 01-03-2019 09:53 AM

Wife's sensor defective but works when it's warm. She gets an airbag light when it's below zero outside. Once cabin warms up we can restart the car and the airbag light clears. I've been considering getting the seat pad emulator didn't want to deal with the seatbelt also since it only happens when cold.

When I run a scan it sees a problem with the control module so it could be internal wiring. I get the internal error even when warm but it doesn't set off the dash light though.

Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 10:35 AM

Same happened with mine until it broke completely. See if it is under the recall. Mine was not but most were. Emulator and seatbelt bypass work flawlessly, otherwise.

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andrewwynn 01-03-2019 11:37 AM

Our cars are tool old for recall ;-(

Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1150846)
Our cars are tool old for recall ;-(

Shouldn't be. It's a safety device so it should be be covered. My friends 2002 was as well as another friends early 06. Mine was a late 06, and though same problem, not covered. Weird.

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andrewwynn 01-03-2019 11:51 AM

Airbag light, reset? Repair? Replace?
 
The cut off was like 2002. Wife and I both have 2001. Even with "safety device" there is a statute of limitations of sorts. The range was just a few years like 02-04 covered but pretty sure the bum lot of butt sensors went back to 2000 when wife's was made.

Muleears 01-03-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1150850)
The cut off was like 2002. Wife and I both have 2001. Even with "safety device" there is a statute of limitations of sorts. The range was just a few years like 02-04 covered but pretty sure the bum lot of butt sensors went back to 2000 when wife's was made.

My '05 wasn't covered.

Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 12:54 PM

Get the emulator and seatbelt over ride, then. That sucks, though.

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andrewwynn 01-03-2019 01:21 PM

Problem is I don't know if it's the butt sensor or the module. I can swap with wife's sensor to see if the problem migrates to my car to confirm.

I also have a working butt sensor from my old passenger seat I don't know if I can extract it to move it over. I'm sure it's molded into the foam or something.

The old seat is headed to the scrap heap so I think I'll cut it open to learn if nothing else.

Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1150867)
Problem is I don't know if it's the butt sensor or the module. I can swap with wife's sensor to see if the problem migrates to my car to confirm.

I also have a working butt sensor from my old passenger seat I don't know if I can extract it to move it over. I'm sure it's molded into the foam or something.

The old seat is headed to the scrap heap so I think I'll cut it open to learn if nothing else.

I'd be willing to bet it's the sensor pad. And yes, it's a pain to remove and replace..that's why the emulator is such a great deal. Mine is a cygenic brand from Ireland (I live in Ohio).

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andrewwynn 01-03-2019 02:05 PM

I think I might just pull the pad out of the old seat and plug it in. If the error goes away I'll know.

Jeadiex5 01-03-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1150875)
I think I might just pull the pad out of the old seat and plug it in. If the error goes away I'll know.

Good plan. I hate warning lights. My latest one was the dsc/no 4x4 warning...turned out to be the yaw sensor....ugh!

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Muleears 01-03-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5 (Post 1150870)
that's why the emulator is such a great deal. Mine is a cygenic brand from Ireland (I live in Ohio).

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I pulled the pin and got one on ebay too. From Ireland but SRSDRIVE is the maker/seller. Should be here next week.


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