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DriverX 01-10-2019 09:11 PM

Brake fluid sludge
 
Hi friends,

I recently did my own brake fluid flush for the first time. I used some of the online DIY/videos. Seems like everything has turned out well, pedal is less mushy.

I had a hard time discerning when there was a change in color between the old/new fluid - and I used a lot of new fluid. Next time I might use the blue fluid to see if it helps, but I heard that it can stain the reservoir.

Anyways, my main question was with regards to the reservoir. While emptying it, I noticed what I was taking out was full of floating "boogers" let's say. Then I peeked into the reservoir, and saw the filter was full of this white-ish sludge type of goop. I did my best to get it all out, but probably some was left behind. I couldn't figure out how to remove the filter so I just left it.

It all sort of floated to the bottom of my catch bottle. I couldn't see anything else suprising in the reservoir, and actually there wasn't much sludge in there.

But I am wondering, what is this sludge? I am sure it's a product of infrequent fluid flushes, as the last one was probably 4 years ago and "done"" by the dealer (I just came into possession of the car so don't blame me!). Should I be worried?

Actually what came through the lines at the wheels was sludge-free. I didn't even get much in the way of bubbles. Maybe some minute particles here and there that I really had to look hard to see, but that's all.

So far so good, for anyone on the fence about trying to DIY, it wasn't hard at all. Just took me a lot of time doing it for the first time.

Thanks everyone

dkl 01-11-2019 02:52 PM

FYI - You can no longer get that "blue" fluid and you can thank our stupid regulations for that. And yes, that "blue" fluid does stain the reservoir, but it self-unstain after about 2 fluid changes with the regular stuff.

Sorry - can't answer your other question as I haven't ran across this on mine.

jsoto 01-11-2019 04:52 PM

I concur on the staining comment. I've been blue-free for awhile and the rides have lost the embedded dye..

semcoinc 01-11-2019 05:39 PM

I have been running Motul DOT 5.1 synthetic brake fluid for several years in my BMWs at flush time.

https://www.amazon.com/Motul-100950-.../dp/B07KYWH2W8

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....SY340SH20_.jpg

Less propensity for water absorption, higher boiling point and longer service life, IMHO.

This fluid in conjunction with SS/teflon brake line upgrades has given me a much firmer pedal feel and braking action. :dunno:

To each their own.

Mike

wpoll 01-11-2019 06:01 PM

Be careful not NOT mix DOT 5 fluid with DOT 3, DOT 4 etc. fluids.

DOT 5.1. is OK though...

DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 are glycol-based.

It's a bit confusing... :confused:

DOT 5 is silicone-based and will NOT mix with the others - it can result in blocked brake systems. :yikes:

semcoinc 01-11-2019 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1151843)
Be careful not NOT mix DOT 5 fluid with DOT 3, DOT 4 etc. fluids.

DOT 5.1. is OK though...

DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 are glycol-based.

It's a bit confusing... :confused:

DOT 5 is silicone-based and will NOT mix with the others - it can result in blocked brake systems. :yikes:

EXACTLY!!!

It is critical that folks considering a synthetic brake fluid in our ABS brake system equipped vehicles use DOT 5.1 :thumbup:

Mike

wpoll 01-11-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151837)
I have been running Motul DOT 5.1 synthetic brake fluid for several years in my BMWs at flush time.

Less propensity for water absorption, higher boiling point and longer service life, IMHO.

Was just reading the spec sheets for this Motul DOT 5.1 - it's boiling point is lower that that stated for their DOT4.... (DOT 5.1 dry 272C vs DOT 4 dry 328C) :confused:

semcoinc 01-11-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1151846)
Was just reading the spec sheets for this Motul DOT 5.1 - it's boiling point is lower that that stated for their DOT4.... (DOT 5.1 dry 272C vs DOT 4 dry 328C) :confused:

K, I stand corrected, however, do you find DOT 5.1 to be higher than DOT 3?

Mike

wpoll 01-11-2019 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151847)
K, I stand corrected, however, do you find DOT 5.1 to be higher than DOT 3?

Mike

Wasn't out to correct anyone - I would have sided with your original statement too. :thumbup:

Just thought it was weird that the "higher" spec fluid was rated lower. Devil is in the detail though, as they don't state the "wet" boiling point. It seem the DOT 5.1. remains consistent at 272C while the DOT 4 performance drops off as it absorbs water - they state the wet boiling point as only 204C, so it's clear that the DOT 5.1 holds up better as it ages.

So you are correct - out of the bottle the DOT 4 is better but as soon as it's in service and starts absorbing water, it's boiling point drops.

The DOT 5.1 is as you said... :thumbup:

semcoinc 01-11-2019 06:15 PM

Thanks for the additional insight on this critical fluid wpoll :thumbup:

Mike


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