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upallnight 03-12-2019 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1157237)
https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWARA1.../dp/B00C0VSNKQ

https://www.amazon.com/Ginode-Extens.../dp/B07BDLJWRS

https://www.amazon.com/Crescent-CX6D.../dp/B00BRKN63U

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...503ac45186.jpg

Those are some of my must have goto tools for car work.

The last one I call my "Dr Seuss" ratchet because it's just so weird looking. I've often found myself having to turn the opposite way of normal (righty loosey) because I've done a u-turn and I'm reaching around a part and back towards myself.

Here's an exact example: putting in the E14 bolts that hold the rear axle bearing in.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0397c298f5.jpg

Apparently nobody makes or sells that tool anymore; crying shame it's one of the best tools ever made for working on an engine! The key ingredient is that the head pivots from the CENTER of the head! Not being offset means it fits almost anywhere, you don't need room for the offset before the flex of a normal flex socket!

It is like 15" long. It has a "T handle" as well because often it ends up being mostly straight and you need to "twist" the handle to turn the head.

I remember listening to this group back in the 60's, 70's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOj8c2Kd1hU

andrewwynn 03-12-2019 10:13 PM

I had to expand my quote box to get the reference. Pretty amazing tie together


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X5F 03-12-2019 11:13 PM

Day 8, bolt still remains 😭 As I uploaded the photos from the phone I couldn’t mark the bolt in the photo, but it’s the only one visible.

There doesn’t seem to be any cover over the rack to allow more access.

I’m seriously considering getting the angle grinder out and cutting into the car to gain access.

The DR Seuss tool looks amazing!

The links to the other tools are appreciated, the third one won’t work, but the first looked possibly plausible.

I had to give it up for a while yesterday for my sanity. I’m now looking at bending and chopping some of my existing tools to get to the bolt.

I’m fairly certain BMW techs must have a specific tool to undo this bolt on RHD models, it has to be ratcheting and deep.

I have a picture of the replacement compressor that I will upload so you can gauge the depth and bolt position from the rear.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions:)

X5F 03-12-2019 11:35 PM

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Compressor and bolt pics

andrewwynn 03-13-2019 02:18 AM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...307f96226d.jpg

Can you get to this part of the bolt? You could cut the bolt. Actually that would only work if you can pull the compressor off the the remaining stub.

I wish I had access to the comparable motor, I have no doubt I could get that bolt out. Maybe we could do a Skype or FaceTime call. I don't like not solving this type of problem and I have a 100% success rate at such things so it's driving me as nuts as you.

Here's an idea that I've done to solve similar Problems:
Cut a slot into the head of the bolt then use a long extension screwdriver in/through/around the framework or whatever, even if you have to drill a hole through the fender well etc.

If you can see the side of the the bolt and you've gotten it cracked free at all you can use a long skinny chisel and knock the bolt head around in circles hitting the points just right.

If you can't get the chixel to grab the bolt head, take a socket, cut about a dozen grooves all the way around (think make a gear of sorts), now wedge the socket on with a literal wedge of wood and hammer with the chisel on the socket, drill a hole though some wood to put the socket through to hold it in place etc.

That's just one minute of brainstorming without seeing it in person.

Other possibilities: weld a "T" handle on think wing nut so you can lever action on the bolt: weld a socket extension on backwards to extend the bolt out and then It Into a square bolt you can use a standard wrench.

Oh: just realized another possibility: there is an adapter that turns a ratcheting wrench Into a ratchet. That adapter and a socket will extend the length of the bolt putting It Into a more accessible spot.

X5F 03-13-2019 09:10 PM

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After 30mins of re-sizing photos so many times and smaller than I would like to fit within the tiny file sizes allowed on Xoutpost please find the pics of the tools used.

I loved the ideas you had with the chisel, cutting etc but there is just not the room at all to even consider any of those options.

As you can see with the tools, I may have a hope of slowly undoing the bolt with a 13mm socket depicted on the left side of(Picture 2) if I can find one in the smaller size. There is not enough turn space to use the one depicted on the right and get it back on the nut again.

I have also shown how all the other tools reach the bolt. You can see with the ring spanner (Picture 1) if I could bend it more and it was ratcheting it would be possible to get it out. If there was a ratcheting 13mm socket it also would be possible.

It’s even too tight to get the finger sized one in there(Picture 5)

The tool depicted in (picture 3&4) would work well if it was also ratcheting but it isn’t, it gets on the bolt perfectly but you can’t turn it much.

Day 9 it’s still there but I’m hopeful it’s days are now numbered. Thank you for your kind offer, that may be a great idea. I’ll have to send you a pm. If only you were in Australia I’d definitely get you to get it off for me!

andrewwynn 03-13-2019 09:27 PM

check out this tool

this is the kind of tool i've been describing; it turns a socket at a 90° angle you don't need to have any back and forth motion; it also has little bit of reach, i think it might just exactly make the corner.

i was looking for a geared version but this one is strangely gearless.

I think if you got the 1/4" drive version it might give you a little more room to work.

-awr

andrewwynn 03-14-2019 01:05 AM

04 4.4 A/C Compressor Removal
 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013UBXU3E/

If you cracked it loose that tool will get it out.

DEWALT DWARA100 Right Angle Attachment
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C0VSNKQ/

Pretty confident that one will work also

Combined with this one:

Bosch DQCE1012 Daredevil QC Spade Drill Bit 12 Inch 1/4" Shank Extension https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FQ571VK/

Then use an impact hex driver to turn it and of course a hex to socket adapter to turn the socket.

The Head is a little bigger and you might have a problem with it binding as the bolt backs out, but you can switch to the finger ratchet and a short extension to get it to clear the compressor body once it's loose enough

crystalworks 03-14-2019 10:45 AM

I use a tool like this for situations shown in your photos.

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-89-96.../dp/B000HEKV1W

You turn the handle to actuate the ratcheting. Great for tight spots once you have broken a bolt/nut free.

andrewwynn 03-14-2019 12:12 PM

04 4.4 A/C Compressor Removal
 
That's almost exactly what I was trying to find. Does the end of the handle have a square hole to use a ratchet at the end for adding torque?

I put the tool on my tool wish list; I'm noticing no socket end so I would probably cut some flats into the little metal cap at the handle end so I can use a wrench.


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