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Overboost 03-22-2020 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriks7 (Post 1179915)
I have been reading a few more threads on this topic and want to see if my understanding is correct:

If I want to connect an Android stereo to my DSP equipped X5, I will need the iBus connector and license. But, if I am NOT planning on hooking up the stock navigation to the new stereo (since from what I saw they all come with their own GPS module and I will be using other apps anyway), will I be able to hook it up without the 6m harness going into the truck? As in, is it a plug-and-play in the front?

If you have the factory navigation (that you are removing), you will need to run the harness to the rear to connect to the wiring needed. The only plug and play up front is for non factory navigation equipped cars.

Patriks7 03-22-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1179917)
If you have the factory navigation (that you are removing), you will need to run the harness to the rear to connect to the wiring needed. The only plug and play up front is for non factory navigation equipped cars.

Alright, I did misunderstand then! Looks like I have my work cutout for me then.

Also a question for you or anyone else, any experience with installing a wireless phone charging pad somewhere? I currently have a cradle, but I think that will be unnecessary with the new stereo.

Quicksilver 03-23-2020 07:55 PM

Probably already answered but why not get the one you have refreshed?

Patriks7 04-20-2020 02:06 PM

Update:

Help!

After a lot of research, I ended up going for an Xtrons model, which the very kind and helpful customer service assured would work with my model with a separate cable. It arrived about 2 weeks ago, but I haven't had time to look into it until today. I decided to follow the installation of Crowz, which was very helpful, but upon connecting every cable as is indicated, the stereo does not turn on. Nothing, not even a blink.

I tried to troubleshoot every connection, but could not come up with anything. Any ideas or suggestions or similar experiences?

tmat1977 04-20-2020 08:00 PM

please make sure you solder the connections with the ibus or it wont send signal. that was with my case i have an eonon ga9166a head unit with ibus
i had busines radio with cd player with dsp


take a look at what i have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3XOwNBQTUc


https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/

you will need usb device app and lic

blackknight530i 04-20-2020 10:53 PM

Just for future reference for people who don't know, to make an aftermarket radio work with the DSP amp, all you need to do is code the DSP amp to mid_basis instead of bord_monitor. It will no longer shut off the sound after a few seconds. Also, you can wire up a DSP MID (bought from a salvage yard or ebay) to ibus, power and ground and be able to set the DSP settings, then disconnect it once set. Use the high powered front left and right speaker outputs to the DSP amp inputs from the radio module and fix the audio level on the head unit, then use the steering wheel controls to control volume.

This works great in my 4.8is with a Pioneer AVIC-6200NEX head unit. It should also allow any of the non-DSP, non-Android head units to work with DSP amps (Dynavin and other ones that fit the space, but don't have a "DSP" module). It also works with my NBT system in both of my e39s with DSP.

Overboost 04-20-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackknight530i (Post 1181861)
Just for future reference for people who don't know, to make an aftermarket radio work with the DSP amp, all you need to do is code the DSP amp to mid_basis instead of bord_monitor. It will no longer shut off the sound after a few seconds. Also, you can wire up a DSP MID (bought from a salvage yard or ebay) to ibus, power and ground and be able to set the DSP settings, then disconnect it once set. Use the high powered front left and right speaker outputs to the DSP amp inputs from the radio module and fix the audio level on the head unit, then use the steering wheel controls to control volume.

This works great in my 4.8is with a Pioneer AVIC-6200NEX head unit. It should also allow any of the non-DSP, non-Android head units to work with DSP amps (Dynavin and other ones that fit the space, but don't have a "DSP" module). It also works with my NBT system in both of my e39s with DSP.

Certainaly a lot of debate on this one. My X5 came with a mid, not nav and the DSP module was set to mid_basis and once I installed the Avin Avant-4 with the iBus adapter before adding the app, the sound was dead. Once the app was added to the Android system and sent the DSP message, the sound was there.

blackknight530i 04-20-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1181862)
Certainaly a lot of debate on this one. My X5 came with a mid, not nav and the DSP module was set to mid_basis and once I installed the Avin Avant-4 before adding the app, the sound was dead. Once the app was added to the Android system and sent the DSP message, the sound was there.

Well, are you sure it was mid_basis and not front_mid? They are different. I know that it works well on both my NBT systems and my Pioneer aftermarket system with that being the only change. Might need to do it on the cluster as well. Been a while and I haven't checked to see if I did it in the cluster as well or not.

blackknight530i 04-20-2020 11:13 PM

Also, just noticed you're in Huntersville. You're less than 10 miles from me. I'm in North Charlotte off of Sunset Rd and I77.

Overboost 04-20-2020 11:16 PM

Almost certain it was mid_basis but I will check next time I plug in NCS Expert. I looked for a saved DSP trace file but must have not saved it on my laptop. :dunno:


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