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lkv0315 05-01-2020 12:26 PM

AC Problem
 
Now that I finally got my X put back together and took it for a drive, I realized that my Air Con is pretty temperamental. It only works when I'm moving at like 25-30+ MPH and sometimes doesn't work even then. It's not that it isn't cold, it just moves no air, because when the air does move it's like an icebox in my car. Anything I should look at to solve the problem? Common fixes? Whatever advice you can give!

upallnight 05-01-2020 12:29 PM

Does the aux fan ever come on? AC when the car is moving but no ac (warm air blowing out of the vent) when the car is stationary points to a Aux fan that is not turning on.

No air movement from the vents means a bad blower motor. It may turn on depending on where the brushes are in contact with the commentator of the motor. Good Luck trying to fix that.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182601)
Does the aux fan ever come on? AC when the car is moving but no ac (warm air blowing out of the vent) when the car is stationary points to a Aux fan that is not turning on.

Well when I'm not moving there is no air at all, warm or cool. Air just stops flowing. Where is the Aux fan located or what should I check just to be sure?

upallnight 05-01-2020 12:41 PM

Aux fan is located in front of the radiator. The fan that pushes air thru the evaporator coil is located behind the dash in a box-like structure.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182603)
Aux fan is located in front of the radiator. The fan that pushes air thru the evaporator coil is located behind the dash in a box-like structure.

Does the dash have to come out to check the latter of the two?

upallnight 05-01-2020 01:03 PM

A video is worth a million words according to Confucius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St_S1xFv-mU

bcredliner 05-01-2020 01:06 PM

Sounds like it might be the blower motor resistor. Sometimes the fan won't work on low speeds but does on high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_D-Ki_Kk2k

lkv0315 05-01-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1182607)
Sounds like it might be the blower motor resistor. Sometimes the fan won't work on low speeds but does on high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_D-Ki_Kk2k



So after thinking about it, I’m not sure the blower runs at all. If the blower motor wasn’t working would cold air still enter the cabin through the vents, being pushed by the aerodynamics?


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wpoll 05-01-2020 04:11 PM

The upper-right button on the environmental panel is a maximum fan speed setting for quickly clearing a fogged windscreen. Hit that - if it sounds like a hurricane in the car, the dash blower is working. It's pretty unmistakable....

Happy 05-01-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182621)
So after thinking about it, I’m not sure the blower runs at all. If the blower motor wasn’t working would cold air still enter the cabin through the vents, being pushed by the aerodynamics?


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Yes when my FSR fully went out, there was no blower at all. However, heat or cold air would still push through the vents if the air recirculation was turned off and outside air was pushed through by the pressure created by velocity.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 04:20 PM

Is there a way to visually inspect the FSR without just replacing it.

wpoll 05-01-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182625)
Is there a way to visually inspect the FSR without just replacing it.

Don't think so. It's actually a solid-state device, like a transistor. Potted and near-impossible to open.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 05:00 PM

Okay so while I am looking. Is there anything relevant to my predicament in the engine bay relay/fuse box by the windshield washer fluid resivoir on the passenger side.
(Also where does the bottom of that little divider go to, because I may or may not have dropped a tool.)


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upallnight 05-01-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182625)
Is there a way to visually inspect the FSR without just replacing it.

You can check for power and ground. If you have power going to the FSR and nothing coming out of it than the FSR is basically toast.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182631)
You can check for power and ground. If you have power going to the FSR and nothing coming out of it than the FSR is basically toast.



So with that being said, could I bridge some of the ports on the plug with a wire to see if it will solve the problem? That would answer wether or not it is the problem


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upallnight 05-01-2020 08:21 PM

You will need to get a wiring diagram to know which terminal is supplying power to the FSR. Don't know what you mean "Bridging" some ports on the plug.

I would suggest you take it in and let a tech look at it.

lkv0315 05-01-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182635)
You will need to get a wiring diagram to know which terminal is supplying power to the FSR. Don't know what you mean "Bridging" some ports on the plug.

I would suggest you take it in and let a tech look at it.

By this I meant to take a piece of wire and go between the different plug pins on the plug to bypass the resistor to see if it’s the issue.

Happy 05-01-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182639)
By this I meant to take a piece of wire and go between the different plug pins on the plug to bypass the resistor to see if it’s the issue.


Oh, I don’t know if I would suggest that.

wpoll 05-01-2020 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182639)
By this I meant to take a piece of wire and go between the different plug pins on the plug to bypass the resistor to see if it’s the issue.

Assuming your envirnment controls are automatic (with didgtal displays etc. and NOT the manual rotary dial type, it's not a resistor and you risk causing some serious damage to your A/C system (namely the IHKA) by poking wires in there.

But here's the wiring diagram... N2 is the motor speed controller - what you are calling a resistor...

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...-stage/nuR0BZ3

And it seems someone did actually open one of these up...

https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...r-fix-diy.html

upallnight 05-02-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkv0315 (Post 1182639)
By this I meant to take a piece of wire and go between the different plug pins on the plug to bypass the resistor to see if it’s the issue.

Love the way people come up with inventive ways to fix cars. NOT. With so much electronics in these cars if you don't know what you are doing it will be cheaper, in the long run, to bring it to a qualified Technicians. I have been on this board long enough to read a lot of DIY projects gone bad.

Clavurion 05-02-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1182650)
Assuming your envirnment controls are automatic (with didgtal displays etc. and NOT the manual rotary dial type, it's not a resistor and you risk causing some serious damage to your A/C system (namely the IHKA) by poking wires in there.

But here's the wiring diagram... N2 is the motor speed controller - what you are calling a resistor...

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...-stage/nuR0BZ3

You can short pins 1->4 and 2->5. The blower should run with full speed.

bcredliner 05-02-2020 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1182658)
Love the way people come up with inventive ways to fix cars. NOT. With so much electronics in these cars if you don't know what you are doing it will be cheaper, in the long run, to bring it to a qualified Technicians. I have been on this board long enough to read a lot of DIY projects gone bad.

:iagree:

Lots of folks here know lots, lots of folks post like they think they do. I haven't met anyone here that hasn't given wrong advice or knows everything.

The folks that spend the least amount of time and money to get something fixed ask questions and wait for several posts before tackling the project. They do the troubleshooting necessary to be as sure as possible they are fixing the core issue. As said, they also know when they need to turn it over to someone more experienced, when they only know enough to be dangerous and they don't have the right tools.

wpoll 05-02-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Clavurion (Post 1182660)
You can short pins 1->4 and 2->5. The blower should run with full speed.

Yep - that's very clear from the wiring diagram but I didn't want to suggest it, as getting it wrong could end badly. But at least it eliminates the FSR as the problem. :thumbup:

Not everyone can read wring diagrams well... ;)

If trying this, be aware that the 12v on pin 2 is live all the time (via F64 and F200.

lkv0315 05-07-2020 06:19 PM

While I did not end up attempting to bypass the sensor, I just ordered it and it turns out that’s all it was. Thanks for the good direction!


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timmyc 05-07-2020 10:22 PM

Glad you got it resolved! My AC is acting up and I need to take it to the shop. It get's hot here in AZ! Even in the mountains!


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