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CapeX5 04-18-2021 06:48 PM

I would suggest going on Youtube and checking out Gary Farro(spelling) ZF transmission rebuild. The guy has MANY videos of rebuilding the trans and he is so knowledgable. I contacted him personally and he responded quickly. There is a place called Eriksons in CT. that he buys all parts from. They supposedly have everything. Your mechanic seems very honest, but that transmission isn't that rare. Good luck.

crete 04-18-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CapeX5 (Post 1202739)
I would suggest going on Youtube and checking out Gary Farro(spelling) ZF transmission rebuild. The guy has MANY videos of rebuilding the trans and he is so knowledgable. I contacted him personally and he responded quickly. There is a place called Eriksons in CT. that he buys all parts from. They supposedly have everything. Your mechanic seems very honest, but that transmission isn't that rare. Good luck.

Thanks CapeX5, it is always great to gain more knowledge on something like this, I'll check out the videos.

Caryalon 04-18-2021 11:22 PM

I own a transmission shop. We do a lot of ZF transmissions.

First of all, the statement that "internal parts are not available" is ridiculous. If they are not available, with what would the transmission be rebuilt, if it needed rebuilding? They may not be available from BMW, but they are available from ZF Erisscon and other suppliers.

Secondly, rep!acing the valve body does NOT require a teardown. It is accessible/replaceable through the transmission pan. Rebuilt valve bodies are available from variety of sources - some good, some not so good.

Thirdly, some transmissions do have a "solenoid pack". The ZF 6HP does not - it has individual solenoids, which are individually available, but are also available as a set. Installing them involves dropping the pan, removing the valve body, replacing the solenoids, replacing the valve body into the free and mission, closing it up and filling it.

His troubleshooting methodology is good, but his quote for a rebuild seems expensive. $6300 for a soft parts overhaul is $$$. The 2 year unlimited warranty seems good, but based on your driving 3000 miles per year, unlimited miles is not of great value.

You said he doesn't do transmissions - that's pretty common for general repair shops - he'll send it to a shop like mine, pay wholesale, and charge you a retaill up charge.

You may want to get a second opinion from a transmission shop that has good reviews, and is a member of ATRA.

crete 04-19-2021 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Caryalon (Post 1202757)
I own a transmission shop. We do a lot of ZF transmissions.

First of all, the statement that "internal parts are not available" is ridiculous. If they are not available, with what would the transmission be rebuilt, if it needed rebuilding? They may not be available from BMW, but they are available from ZF Erisscon and other suppliers.

Secondly, rep!acing the valve body does NOT require a teardown. It is accessible/replaceable through the transmission pan. Rebuilt valve bodies are available from variety of sources - some good, some not so good.

Thirdly, some transmissions do have a "solenoid pack". The ZF 6HP does not - it has individual solenoids, which are individually available, but are also available as a set. Installing them involves dropping the pan, removing the valve body, replacing the sole kids, replacing the valve body into the free and mission, closing it up and filling it.

His troubleshooting methodology is good, but his quote for a rebuild seems expensive. $6300 for a soft parts overhaul is $$$. The 2 year unlimited warranty seems good, but based on your driving 3000 miles per year, unlimited miles is not of great value.

You said he doesn't do transmissions - that's pretty common for general repair shops - he'll send it to a shop like mine, pay wholesale, and charge you a retaill up charge.

You may want to get a second opinion from a transmission shop that has good reviews, and is a member of ATRA.

Caryalon, thank you for much needed insight from somebody that does tranny rebuilds. I'll see if I can find a transmission shop here in the SF Bay Area for a 2nd opinion.

thanks.

upallnight 04-19-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeX5 (Post 1202739)
I would suggest going on Youtube and checking out Gary Farro(spelling) ZF transmission rebuild. The guy has MANY videos of rebuilding the trans and he is so knowledgable. I contacted him personally and he responded quickly. There is a place called Eriksons in CT. that he buys all parts from. They supposedly have everything. Your mechanic seems very honest, but that transmission isn't that rare. Good luck.

Gary Ferraro. That is where the BMW and Jaguar shops in his area send their customers' trans for rebuilding instead of rebuilding them themselves.

Like and subscribe to his channel so that he can monetize his channel and continue to put out videos.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWa...yLyQ7zjW9LF-xg

Caryalon 04-19-2021 12:17 PM

Gary’s videos are good - he’s a nice guy, too. I’ve spoken with him a couple of times - pretty close to me geographically.

crete 04-20-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Caryalon (Post 1202780)
Gary’s videos are good - he’s a nice guy, too. I’ve spoken with Gina. Couple of times - pretty close to me geographically.

Would anyone know of a similar shop here SF Bay Area?

Caryalon 04-21-2021 07:54 AM

Go to ATRA.com, shop finder. Cross ref with reviews on Google. Yelp

crete 04-22-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Caryalon (Post 1202872)
Go to ATRA.com, shop finder. Cross ref with reviews on Google. Yelp

Thanks for the tip, submitted info on my problem, will wait to hear back from them.

crete 04-26-2021 09:06 PM

Update:

I found a transmission shop nearby that only does rebuilds and is a member of ATRA, so I can take my X5 there for a free estimate, will head there sometime this week and see what they find out.


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