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06 X5 3.0 Code PO302 PO303 PO 305 and PO300 Misfire
Curious, I had first a PO303 code and PO300 which was occasional, put fuel injector cleaner and it seemed to help, but came back, and no same codes on 2.3.4 cylinder, So what would cause this suddenly, checked connections and harnesses, ordered injector when #3 acted up, but I feel it is something else. Any ideas?
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What are those codes? I am not looking them up...
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Edit: I see the "misfire" in the title of the post now. Random misfires are usually vacuum leak related as cn90 points out below. Intake bellows is a good place to start but it can be in so many other places. Smoke test would be the best way to diagnose. Otherwise you'll have to start pulling parts for visual inspections. Good luck. |
Multiple misfire codes usually point to air leak.
The #1 culprit is the rubber boot feeding the throttle body. The cracks are usually on the underside, which you can only see once it is removed from the car. |
Cracked rubber boot...I posted the photos here...
https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...ml#post1204411 |
PO300 PO302
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PO300 PO302 Codes
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PO300 Random Misfire Code, PO302 is open injector circuit
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Much appreciated. Most of us here don't go by "P" codes anymore but use the more specific BMW codes that more capable code readers pull out of the modules.
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An experienced mechanic knows those code by heart.
Did you pull the plug? I've seen individual plugs fail. You can move the coil pack to another location or ohm it with a voltmeter. Compare ohm reading between coil packs. You can do the same for fuel injectors. One cylinder miss fire will cause other cylinders to misfire even though other cylinders may be okay. The P0303 is where I would look the most for troubleshooting. MAF and air intake leaks are very common causes. |
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Misfire and Injector Circuit Open Issues 2,3,4 cylinders
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Sorry OP for the slight OT. But your misfire situation is definitely one all of us have gone through at some point on a BMW. It's usually vacuum related but at times can be ignition system (least probably in my experience is fuel supply). If you have access, your short term and long term fuel trim data would be helpful with diagnose by some of the more technically minded members. When I have misfires, especially at certain mileages, I tend to take the shotgun approach to it and replace all coils/plugs, vacuum lines, crank case breather components, valve cover gaskets, etc, etc. It usually costs more (sometimes a lot more) but saves time on diagnosis and "resets" the clock for another ~100k miles before I'll need to worry about misfires again. |
MISFIRES and INJECTOR CIRCUIT ISSUES
Thanks, I will start checking for the issue, just thought someone would have had exact same issue, not just random misfires, but specific 2.33 and 4 injector circuits. Will check further and post results.
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Multiple misfire codes:
- Air leak, check again and again. - Bad ignition coil, but usually just 1-2 bad coils. - Spark Plugs getting old... - Bad gasoline (contaminated with water). |
MULTIPLE OPEN INJECTOR CIRCUIT & MISFIRES
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Also check your compression across all cylinders. I had engine misfire codes and the cause was a bad head gasket.
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RANDOM MISFIRES AND OPEN INJECTION CIRCUIT
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So google for P0302, not PO302. And sure, you might find anecdotal info about someone who had a particular component failure, it gave a P0302 code, they read it and posted it as PO302, and before you know it, it becomes internet fact that a PO302 means that particular component is bad. But like most internet facts, that would be wrong. My understanding from cars in general (including BMWs), is that a P030# code indicates a misfire on cylinder number #. Simple as that. P0300 is a general misfire code meaning that one or more cylinders is misfiring. A bunch of the comments so far in this thread saying otherwise do directly contradict what I'm saying here. The misfire codes themselves do not attempt to tell you what is causing the misfires, just that misfires are occurring. More specifically, misfires are typically detected by measuring the timing of the crankshaft rotation very accurately (for misfire detection purposes). The CPS or crankshaft position sensor does this. If a misfire occurs, the piston will not see as much combustion pressure as it should, so the torque on the crankshaft will be a little less, so the time for crank rotation through that cylinder's angle will be a little longer, which the CPS will measure. If that is found to happen reliably enough, the ECU will declare a misfire on a particular cylinder, maybe turn on the Service Engine Soon light, set codes, go to a limp mode, etc. At that point, you may be on your own to find what is causing the misfire(s) - there may or may not be other codes to guide you (e.g., a lean mixture code). Another complicating factor is that the detection is sometimes not accurate about isolating which cylinder is bad. Accuracy seems to vary with engine types - I'm not sure how accurate it is on these M54s. So you can have a single cylinder problem (for example a flaky ignition coil on #2) that may result in crank rotation speed variations that will cause misfire codes on multiple cylinders, even though the actual problem is only on that #2. So if your problem started with a single P030# code, and now you have a few of them, it could just be that your one isolated problem has become worse rather than that it is spreading. This is all general stuff. Sorry, I have no "answer" for you. |
Misfire and injection circuit open on multiple cylinders
Thanks, could be a zero and not the letter, I can't see the difference on my scanner, but the problem is the random misfires and injection circuit open is the problem.
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I have looked into it and since I don't have a mac, which is what it is used on to install win 10, I was wondering if it is also needed when you are not using a mac laptop? |
With your scanner properly installed, you should be able to turn off specific injectors one at a time and notice a difference. Very helpful.
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