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Rootripper 12-04-2021 06:21 PM

The mysterious bulb carrier
 
My 2002 E53 has some tail light issues. I just found out the joys of identifying bulb carriers. Nightmare at minimum. Only buy one at a time, at most a pair. But buy them cause you probably need them !
I really don’t think the lights on my tailgate have ever worked. Local parts establishments don’t even have a listing for the parts. (Bulbs and carriers) I’m way too excited about this

Anyway thanks for any advice, guidance, or commiseratance would be appreciated.
Mike

andrewwynn 12-04-2021 06:24 PM

A direct replacement will have the same design defect. I rebuilt mine with steel screws and shims to eliminate the self destruct nature of steel contact held by plastic which melts.

RocketyMan 12-04-2021 07:21 PM

I lube mine up heavily with dielectric grease so no corrosion causes the contacts to get bits of resistance and start melting...

Rootripper 12-04-2021 08:26 PM

Hey Andrew, how ya doin ? Thanks, liketo see your upgrade details.
Thanks rocket, that’s a really good idea, probably lubricates to help assembly and prevent those cursed terminal s from breaking.

andrewwynn 12-04-2021 08:53 PM

https://xoutpost.com/1047563-post65.html

Just a couple pics I have about six pics but would take a while to find

RocketyMan 12-06-2021 02:43 PM

That's a good fix idea! So Andrew, from your reference post, I'm guessing you sorta pre-drilled the plastic that stuck a short sheet metal screw in there to fasten it?

Can you recall what drill bit size you used and exact screw size as to not crack the housing and such?

Fifty150hs 12-06-2021 03:20 PM

I added a little bit of solder at each contact point location. That creates tension against the metal part on the bulb carrier so you don't get any shorting. A very poor design on BMW's part.

andrewwynn 12-06-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1213881)
That's a good fix idea! So Andrew, from your reference post, I'm guessing you sorta pre-drilled the plastic that stuck a short sheet metal screw in there to fasten it?

Can you recall what drill bit size you used and exact screw size as to not crack the housing and such?


Idrilled out all the plastic rivets I used about ¹/₈" bit which is a moot point. I used self tapping screws probably size #8 to fasten after that drilled into the plastic with a big enough hole to not split.

I used a heat proof shim under to hold the spacing correct so even if it gets hot it won't melt the plastic holding things.


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andrewwynn 12-06-2021 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifty150hs (Post 1213887)
I added a little bit of solder at each contact point location. That creates tension against the metal part on the bulb carrier so you don't get any shorting. A very poor design on BMW's part.


Using steel as a contact was a terrible idea as always. Putting a little silver solder where the contact goes is a good idea. Silver "rust" is conductive why copper contacts often are silver plated.

Lead/zinc solder prob not the best contact but beats steel

RocketyMan 12-06-2021 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1213889)
Idrilled out all the plastic rivets I used about ¹/₈" bit which is a moot point. I used self tapping screws probably size #8 to fasten after that drilled into the plastic with a big enough hole to not split.

I used a heat proof shim under to hold the spacing correct so even if it gets hot it won't melt the plastic holding things.


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Awesome! The exact information I needed to know. Hopefully this will help out the OP if he choses to go that rout in terms of the repair.


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