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X5chemist 01-04-2022 08:20 AM

Cluster info button
 
Today, the cluster info button stopped working. The cluster does light up radio info. However, other data does not appear. MPG, timer, clock, range, and other info does not appear. Where does data feed come from?

RocketyMan 01-04-2022 11:59 AM

The KOMBI is a gateway in a sense that nearly every network connects to it AND it has it's own CAN termination. I suspect some of that information comes from the DME and some stuff from the EWS.

Did you check for any codes?
Is this a "highline" version of the Kombi?

wpoll 01-04-2022 03:37 PM

This stalk BC button can be used to "programme" what BC info appears on the cluster when he stalk BC button is pushed. Have you accidentally removed all options?

RocketyMan 01-04-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1215428)
This stalk BC button can be used to "programme" what BC info appears on the cluster when he stalk BC button is pushed. Have you accidentally removed all options?

How? It just switches all between the options.

Do you have any literature on this?

wpoll 01-04-2022 04:02 PM

Hold the button down until display reads "PROG".

Documentation on this is in the owners manual - I'll dig it out...

wpoll 01-04-2022 04:32 PM

Here ya go...

https://i.ibb.co/KrdLXDc/BC-Stalk.jpg

RocketyMan 01-04-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1215436)

Oh wow! Nice! Good job posting that.

Okay...so I'm wondering if the "PROG" is just for the MID? Because on mine, if I hold down the "BC" button, it will never show that. Could it possibly be because I took out my MID? Hmm...

X5chemist 01-04-2022 06:29 PM

Great! Thanks! I'll try the reprogram when I get off work. Wifey likes the "Range" option. AKA: lets me drive it to fill it back up.

wpoll 01-04-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215444)
Oh wow! Nice! Good job posting that.

Okay...so I'm wondering if the "PROG" is just for the MID? Because on mine, if I hold down the "BC" button, it will never show that. Could it possibly be because I took out my MID? Hmm...

Quite possibly. At the very least you need either an MID unit or the factory Nav in order to use the PROG feature, since you need to use the buttons to programme the functions. You can plug it back in temporarily to do this (assuming you still have it somewhere...)

This is one of several reason for never disposing of a MID unit after removing it for install an aftermarket HU etc. Another is the PIN CODE disable function! :rolleyes:

RocketyMan 01-04-2022 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1215460)
Quite possibly. At the very least you need either an MID unit or the factory Nav in order to use the PROG feature, since you need to use the buttons to programme the functions. You can plug it back in temporarily to do this (assuming you still have it somewhere...)

This is one of several reason for never disposing of a MID unit after removing it for install an aftermarket HU etc. Another is the PIN CODE disable function! :rolleyes:

Ergh! Well you called it, I don't have the MID anymore. :/

I already disabled the PIN code via PA Soft. But dang..I can't set clock time or reset the MPG. Unless there's another way without the MID? :dunno:

txyaloo 01-05-2022 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215463)
Ergh! Well you called it, I don't have the MID anymore. :/

I already disabled the PIN code via PA Soft. But dang..I can't set clock time or reset the MPG. Unless there's another way without the MID? :dunno:

Android based head unit, with a Resler interface, and the ibus app will automatically set the clock and allows you to reset mpg

X5chemist 01-06-2022 09:22 AM

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Well, it's a bigger problem. I didn't notice it until yesterday. Trying a "PROG" does not work. :( More display info is missing. Data is displayed on the radio.

Fifty150hs 01-06-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215463)
Ergh! Well you called it, I don't have the MID anymore. :/

I already disabled the PIN code via PA Soft. But dang..I can't set clock time or reset the MPG. Unless there's another way without the MID? :dunno:

You need the IBUS app and interface. It allows you to use the BC functions via your new head unit.

X5chemist 01-08-2022 09:24 AM

Update: \ranking it up, the maintenance light row was briefly on then it turned off after running a few seconds. I'll put the Foxwell scanner on it today.

RocketyMan 01-08-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by X5chemist (Post 1215557)
Well, it's a bigger problem. I didn't notice it until yesterday. Trying a "PROG" does not work. :( More display info is missing. Data is displayed on the radio.

Does anything show up on your info screen there? Usually if the backlit lightbulb burns out, a little bit of light will bleed over from the other two. They're not too hard to change out. But it's hard to tell from your picture if the LCD is broke or if its the backlight lightbulb.

RocketyMan 01-08-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by txyaloo (Post 1215479)
Android based head unit, with a Resler interface, and the ibus app will automatically set the clock and allows you to reset mpg

Yes, I saw this. It's an "add on" i can buy for my android based unit. OOff...I really wish I had the stock unit and just retrofit the BlueTooth feature via CD changer in.

X5chemist 01-08-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215682)
Does anything show up on your info screen there? Usually if the backlit lightbulb burns out, a little bit of light will bleed over from the other two. They're not too hard to change out. But it's hard to tell from your picture if the LCD is broke or if its the backlight lightbulb.

The maintenance lights do light for a second or two. Green, yellow, and red. If I use steering wheel controls, the radio station ID does display. However, after a few seconds, it goes blank again.

wpoll 01-08-2022 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by X5chemist (Post 1215686)
The maintenance lights do light for a second or two. Green, yellow, and red. If I use steering wheel controls, the radio station ID does display. However, after a few seconds, it goes blank again.

All that sounds pretty normal....

Best way to confirm the display is working properly is to press the right cluster button - you should see 'CHECK CONTROL OK" come up on the display. If you keep holding it down, you can access the BC diagnostics menus.

There is a dash display test routine in the diags. ;)

Checkout this post from Qsilver7...

https://xoutpost.com/1007582-post12.html

Once the hidden menus are unlocked, use test #2 to test the display.

HTH...

EODguy 01-09-2022 01:55 AM

With my Foxwell NT-510 I can access a menu called "clockwork" and it will illuminate every dash light and instrument cluster in order then all at once. Not sure what it is listed as under ISTA-d

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RocketyMan 01-09-2022 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1215696)
With my Foxwell NT-510 I can access a menu called "clockwork" and it will illuminate every dash light and instrument cluster in order then all at once. Not sure what it is listed as under ISTA-d

Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk

You can do that yourself just using the cluster button like wpoll is describing. The "secret" menus...

EODguy 01-09-2022 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215700)
You can do that yourself just using the cluster button like wpoll is describing. The "secret" menus...

True except any errors give codes secret menu does not.

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X5chemist 01-09-2022 08:32 AM

The "Check Control - OK" does work. I can unlock the menus too. Code is 16. I'll try the diagnostic test. Thanks!

X5chemist 01-10-2022 08:03 AM

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Test 02 was positive. :rofl:
The cluster looks like my house Christmas light show. :thumbup:

So I assume the BC button is bad. But why would the maintenance light section be turned off too? It was always on before it disappeared. :dunno:

X5chemist 01-11-2022 08:13 AM

Has anyone swapped the BC and turn signal switch? Since the cluster does work, I'll swap the multifunction switch. It looks easy to swap. I've done the electrical key cylinder part. Two screws and plug seem easy to reach.


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