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SirHiss 01-26-2023 03:49 PM

At my wits end with the LCM
 
A few weeks ago my sunroof decided to spring a leak and give the middle connector of my LCM a shower! It drained the battery and caused some lighting faults. (This has happened before :rolleyes: but I believe I have permanently fixed the leak now).

One of the pins at the bottom of the connector had corroded and then snapped off. So I sent the LCM away to have a new connector soldered on and all of the LCM's functionality tested. All ok according to the technician!

The symptoms are:
  • headlights coming on with ignition regardless of switch position
  • indicators not lighting up on dash but they do flash outside the car
  • and a weird one, the voltage no longer displays on the ibus app since this issue! :dunno:
So I fitted the fixed LCM back in the car but the same problems persist! I then noticed that a couple of the pins in the female side of the connector were super corroded and had fallen apart. So I ordered new pins and crimped them on. I thought that would fix the poor connection but, nope! Same problems. :( I've checked all the pins and connections. They all look good!

Does anyone know what, or what wire could be causing these specific faults? Wiring is my least confident aspect of cars. I look at wiring diagrams and I might as well be looking at quantum physics!

I also now have an airbag warning light as the water leak caused my battery to go completely flat for a few days. Can this be cleared using the BMW 1.4 coding software? It's all I have (not even used it yet, complete noob).

Thanks in advance for any help!

CapeX5 01-26-2023 10:42 PM

This is a tough one, sorry for your issues. But these are super complicated cars. Just for your information-my 03 directionals would work fine, but I had no indicators on dash. Randomly found that my nav. computer in the back was not working and replaced it and all was good again! Makes no sense to me, but telling you so that you are aware of all possibilities

SirHiss 01-27-2023 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapeX5 (Post 1227245)
This is a tough one, sorry for your issues. But these are super complicated cars. Just for your information-my 03 directionals would work fine, but I had no indicators on dash. Randomly found that my nav. computer in the back was not working and replaced it and all was good again! Makes no sense to me, but telling you so that you are aware of all possibilities

Thanks, Cape. I have replaced my nav with an xtrons headunit and removed the dvd drive in the rear. Is that the unit you are referring to?

SirHiss 01-27-2023 07:57 AM

Update on this.


12 hours after plugging the 'tested' LCM back in, the battery is completely dead! :dunno::(

CapeX5 01-27-2023 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirHiss (Post 1227250)
Thanks, Cape. I have replaced my nav with an xtrons headunit and removed the dvd drive in the rear. Is that the unit you are referring to?

Yes, that is what I am referring to. If you can, maybe temporarily put it all back to original and see if it fixes itself.

Bdc101 01-27-2023 02:00 PM

[wrong thread sorry]

Clavurion 01-27-2023 02:04 PM

Indicators not showing on the cluster is typical I-/K-bus problem. So if you have any after market units connected to that bus I would temporarily unplug them.

SirHiss 01-27-2023 02:57 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys. But now I have a bigger problem to fix first with the LCM draining the battery! :( What could be causing that?

SirHiss 02-13-2023 11:48 AM

Today I finally got around to trying to diagnose this problem. The car has sat unused hooked up to a CTEK charger for weeks because of this.

I did a parasitic draw test by latching the doors and letting the car go to sleep then testing fuses.

I started in the rear fuse box. All seemed good except F75 which was 20mv across a 5a fuse! I think I found the culprit! F75 says it's 'Audio system, navigation system' so I checked for any loose plugs in the rear of the car where I removed the navigation stystem that might be grounding out. Nothing. I unplugged the xtrons harness that goes to the front of the car. Nothing.

I looked up a wiring diagram but I might as well show it to a dog because he would make about as much sense of it as I can! :dunno:

I don't know what to do next.

Oh and the LCM problems persist. All sorts of lighting issues.

SirHiss 02-13-2023 12:37 PM

I should note that I bought an identical part number LCM from eBay and plugged it in. Absolutely nothing changed so went back to my original which I believe to be good.

SirHiss 03-08-2023 07:46 AM

Well I finally figured out what was wrong and in case anyone is searching this in the future here is what the problem was...

I'm retarded.

When crimping on new terminals inside the X10117 connector, I accidentally switched pins 35 and 36! Pin 36 being the k-bus signal wire!

:D

guntherrex 03-08-2023 09:21 AM

doh!

Bdc101 03-08-2023 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirHiss (Post 1228208)
Well I finally figured out what was wrong and in case anyone is searching this in the future here is what the problem was...

I'm retarded.


If you call it "user error" then it sounds less bad

wpoll 03-08-2023 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirHiss (Post 1228208)
... I accidentally switched pins 35 and 36! ...

Yeah - that'll do it... :rolleyes:

zonefive 03-10-2023 11:02 AM

What does LCM stand for?

Clavurion 03-10-2023 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonefive (Post 1228242)
What does LCM stand for?

Light and check control module.

Morfzak 12-03-2023 05:31 PM

So happy to have found this tread.
Can you tell me what type of crimp pins you used for the X10117 connector please.

SirHiss 12-04-2023 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morfzak (Post 1235192)
So happy to have found this tread.
Can you tell me what type of crimp pins you used for the X10117 connector please.

I bought a new connector including the 54 new terminals. I didn't use the plastic part as mine was fine. I just used a handful of the new terminals to replace the corroded ones. I don't know the specification of the terminals themselves unfortunately.

Anyway, it was listed as 4E0972144. If you search that on AliExpress you should find what you need.

I also had to buy a crimping tool to do the job correctly. It's a very fiddly job to do down there in the footwell with very little wire to work with, and the terminals are tiny! Good luck! :D

Homerlovesbeer 12-08-2023 02:14 AM

Good luck!

Sounds like a nightmare :yikes:


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