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X5only 06-29-2024 08:11 PM

Can lug bolt with 17mm head be used instead of one with 19mm head?
 
Can a lug bolt with 17mm head be used instead of one with a 19mm head? I have factory style 87 wheels and getting spacers. The spacers come with longer bolts (conical seat wheel bolt - 14x1.5x43mm) but the head of those bolts is 17mm, whereas the factory bolt head is 19mm. Would there be an issue if the 17mm head bolt is used on style 87 wheel?

Bdc101 06-29-2024 10:45 PM

I was surprised to find 17mm lug bolts on my E70 when I bought it a couple of months ago. I would assume since those wheels are interchangeable on to the E53 that they would be fine. I'm not exactly an authority though.

80stech 06-29-2024 11:41 PM

Bolt head size makes no difference, could even be an internal drive like the lock head. More important would be the conical seat part.

Fifty150hs 06-29-2024 11:43 PM

Head size on my 2006 is 17mm. The one my wife used to have was the same. Style 87's on hers.

X5only 06-30-2024 01:02 AM

Thanks for the verifying the 17mm would be fine. Actually, the vehicle factory wheels were style 132 and the bolts are 19mm head. I got the vehicle CPO so the 19mm head bolts most likely are factory. Incidentally, my F86 with 21" factory wheels has 17mm head bolts. It sounds like 17mm head bolts is standard.

dkl 06-30-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifty150hs (Post 1239637)
Head size on my 2006 is 17mm. The one my wife used to have was the same. Style 87's on hers.


This is very odd. I thought all e53s use 19mm. My 2004 LCI use 19mm from factory.

Bdc101 06-30-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dkl (Post 1239645)
This is very odd. I thought all e53s use 19mm. My 2004 LCI use 19mm from factory.


I was thinking the same thing. Fifty150, I would double check that your lug wrench in the trunk is 17mm. Could be that a previous owner swapped out the lugs but left the 19mm wrench in the trunk, which would put you up a creek without a paddle if you get a flat.

andrewwynn 06-30-2024 02:17 PM

The newer m14 lugs from BMW are usually 17mm but be careful on pitch. E53 course pitch E70 fine pitch. I've seen e53 bolts with 17 and 19 but after damaging a couple of my e53 bolts I bought replacements with the captive cone washer they were 19. If the source of the spacers was aware of use on e53 you should have the correct pitch.

dkl 07-14-2024 12:41 AM

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Just an FYI - while working on the cars today, was able to take this picture comparing 17mm vs 19mm bolts. My e86 Z4MC uses 17mm (88 ft-lbs) while the e53 X5 uses 19mm (101 ft-lbs). The diameter of the 17mm is 10mm and the 19mm is 12mm. I'll let you decide if you think the 17mm is safe to use on the e53.

Clavurion 07-14-2024 05:10 AM

Depending on E53 manufacturing time both 17 and 19 mm bolts were used and are still available. Other than the hex size they are similar.

M14X1,5/SW19MM ->12/2005 36136756298
M14X1,5/SW17MM 12/2005-> 36136781153


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