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Compatible Fuel Pressure Gauge?
I am having a cold start issue which only happens in near freezing weather. I replaced fuel pump last winter with the Delphi model and it "mostly" cured the issue but that could have been bc the temp wasn't cold enough.
The other day, first time i tried to start it in cold weather around 33 degrees, and it just turns over and over. I can usually fix it by cycling the fuel pump 5-6 times and the issue goes away until the next morning. Never recurs on the same day. There are a TON of things could be causing this but i think my first order of business is to check my fuel pressures. I'm looking gauge kits on Amazon and seeing some folks say they don't fit BMW or whatever. Can someone recommend a gauge kit they KNOW fits the M54? Would love to land one for $30 or less but will pay up if i have to. much appreciated!! |
I bought one from harbor freight. I'll see if they keep track on my account to find the exact model.
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Mine is from autozone I think. If it fits a standard schraeder valve, then it will fit the X5 fuel rail I believe.
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Harbor Freight's kit fits the Schrader valve. They don't sell the kit I have anymore. It was like $30.
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The ones you guys have that fit would be nice to know, was wanting to check rail pressure for sometimes long cranks on the 4.6 and the set I borrowed did not have an adapter that fit.
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It would be nice if someone could verify they have found one that fits properly AND works properly. I have an old school Snap-on kit (was about $700 in the 80s) that has a really nice adapter that works perfect but those are not available any more.
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I use the tester below that I thought I bought at Harbor Freight
Pittsburgh Fuel Injection Pump Tester #62623 Not sure they still carry this particular one...Although this model is available new and used on Ebay. Be sure to use a little teflon tape where it screws to the fuel rail. |
Schrader adapters, and new pressure tester
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I had been using a cheap Chinese fuel pressure tester from Amazon, that wouldn't attach to the Schrader, even with the adapters included with its' kit. I bought a $25 adapter that failed after a few uses (irreplaceable O-ring), so I bought a set of two adapters, that work fine. Now I have a spare. It works with no leaks, and no Teflon tape required.
Attachment 85229 Here's a description: The Fuel Injection Pressure Tester 305.32 Valve Adapter is compatible with several vehicle types: Primary Compatibility: Ford vehicles: F150, F250 trucks Lincoln cars: Various models including Town Car Ford Rangers: 1995-2001 models with 3.0 V6 Also Works With: BMW vehicles: X5 E53 (2000-2006), M54 engines Some Chevrolet vehicles The adapter connects to the small Schrader valve on fuel rails and works with most fuel pressure testing kits. Customer reviews confirm successful use on Ford Rangers, Lincoln Town Cars, and various BMW models with M54 engines. I recently bought another fuel pressure tester, a Performance Tool W80595, from Amazon, but I haven't tried it, yet. I have used many tools from Performance Tool before, so I expect it to be OK. Attachment 85230 |
Not getting proper fuel pressure readings is as much of a problem as not reading all codes.
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So i ended up buying this kit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VV29NHM...sin_title&th=1 it's got a couple different M8 adapters that fit the fuel rail nipple 'pretty well' i sealed with some teflon tape and it seems to work. no leaks. Running pressure is 51.5. Engine off, immediate pressure is 45psi. Then the pressure starts bleeding off. By morning it was at 5psi. Apparently that's not normal and chatgpt is telling me it is either the fuel filter and built in regulator, some sort of pump module check valve (pump is brand new and the reason i replaced was because the same issue with the old pump), or it's bleeding off at the injectors (less likely though apparently with no apparent running issues). it's telling me to clamp the fuel line tonight and check the pressure bleed. is there rubber fuel line in the engine bay i can clamp that's reachable? |
It's not often you will get a system that will hold perfectly over night and it really shouldn't need to be perfect as long as it doesn't get low enough for air to get into the system then the initial priming should be all that is needed. If all the air is purged out when you are testing then very little leakage is needed to drop the pressure over night so even the smallest leak on the gauge/connection itself could be the biggest problem. Yes, the rubber fuel line should be pretty obvious but pinching that off 100% is not easy either. Sounds like you have a good connection to get proper readings though if the gauge drops immediately when the pump stops.
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My pressure readings were like yours, three years ago, on 5-11-22 (barely readingover 50psi, quickly dropping to 40+ engine off). But the engine continued to run fine, until the fuel pump eventually died (while being inspected last October '25), so I installed a new Hella pump, and tested again. This time using a better adapter, 2 for $13 (the first one lost an O-ring). Pressure readings were 49.5psi/42psi engine on/off (odd, considering the pump should have been stronger than the old one, and the fact that the X was getting rich codes, not lean, which was the case with the old pump, for years). Following that test, the pressure gauge was left on the windshield for 22 hours before I tried starting the X , to observe the pressure on turns, the next day (never did that test). It read 36psi. I bled the pressure, then started the engine, and it took about a minute for the needle to rise to 44psi, never reaching 50. I pushed the bleeder button again, got very little fuel from the bypass hose, and looked at the gauge again (after jumping back into the seat). It read ZERO. So, I tried again, with the same results, ZERO psi. Then, I removed the gauge and extension hose from the gauge, and went through another round of key flip/clear codes/finally restarting, before I attached the fuel gauge to the fuel rail, sans extension. Still no pressure. WTF? So, I bought a new gauge, a Performance Tool W80595, and will try again, after not testing for months (weather, health reasons). I did just run the engine a couple of days ago, for over thirty minutes, to monitor the fuel trims, MAF, and O2 sensor readings; all were as good or better than usual, so the fuel system MIGHT'VE gotten better after sitting months (maybe the problem I was having https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...inspected.htmlself corrected...fuel tank debris settling, plugged injectors/fuel line/FPR+filter cleared???). Anyway, I'm about ready to drain and filter the fuel from the tank, replace the FPR+filter with a new Hengst unit, and test again. After my Dr. tells me if or not I need shoulder surgery, tomorrow. Good Luck with your fuel pressure testing; I had no such luck with mine. |
wow! thanks for all the insight.
I think AI might be going off-piste here and making some conclusions here that are not particularly likely. First off, this has ONLY happened in very cold weather...typically below 35 degrees. And it doesn't even happen every time. i can tell when i have a no-start morning because when turn the key to position 2 I will hear NOTHING from the fuel pump. i can usually rectify that with 3-6 cycles of OFF to Position 2. I have to get two successful primes in a row to crank it in that situation though. It seemed like an easy fix to me just replacing (first) the fuel pump in Jan 2025, after which i never had the issue because it never got cold after that. But the problem arose again this year the first time it got under freezing. And has been SOMEWHAT consistent on sub-freezing mornings. So i figured i might be dealing with a flaky fuel pump relay. That'd make a ton of sense. I replaced that this weekend but the relay tested perfectly fine on the bench. I left the new one in there. ChatGPT is pointing to the fuel filter/regulator but the pump seems like it can easily 'prime-through' an empty fuel rail for a successful start...provided it turns on at position 2. I ordered a new filter and will install next weekend but i am doubtful that's the issue. i Don't know enough about relays to know if the one that 'tested good' on the bench was actually faulty. i just tested it with a 9V battery and a meter. i'll read your thread to catch up on some of the work you guys have already done. Thanks! |
you can simply add in a one way check valve into your fuel line, as close to the fuel pump as possible, so maintaint he column of fuel in fuel line for faster starting, IF you feel the Priming of pump next ignition start, isn't helping, but this is probably jsut a band auid and the fuel pump may need to be replaced or at least the regulator part (I can't recall on this vehicle if its separate or built into fuel pump).
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