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2002Silver4.6is 10-13-2006 10:40 PM

4.6 Flares Help!!
 
I have a 4.6 with the flares. I am replacing one of the the "Bumper Supports" (Part #2: http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...22&hg=51&fg=15 )

The one that I am replacing had a bolt (no idea who the hell did this shoddy work, I am the second owner) securing the Bumper Support in the hole that is at the lower end of the piece.

I have been to the dealership to buy the correct fastener to mount the Bumper Support but they do not know what fastener I need. The diagram does not show which one to use. It does look loke a large plastic rivet on the one securing my other Bumper Support.

Anyone know what the part number is for the fastener????

vinuneuro 10-13-2006 10:43 PM

Call Crevier BMW or Morristown BMW.

2002Silver4.6is 10-14-2006 12:14 AM

Great idea, if no one knows the part number I will give one of those two a call.

bsprtsgrp 10-15-2006 07:46 AM

try this...http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...f?d=1154728710

Sudesh 10-15-2006 08:52 AM

If its a large plastic rivit then the code is 51471911992 it about 30 cent the same plastic rivit is used on a variety of parts on the X5 and other models

2002Silver4.6is 10-16-2006 04:26 PM

Man, I thought this would be an easy thing to get and install. Little did I know the hardest part would be to get the fasteners to install it!!

Thank you for the retrofit PDF. Quite helpful. On the PDF it shows retaining clips for the back side of the Bumper Support. I had no idea (neither did the dealer) that these were even part of the install. I had never seen or heard of them. I was a bit puzzled on how the fitings for support would stay in the holes. I was thinking I needed to put a bit of epoxy to get them to stay on.

I guess I will have to drop the bumper in order to mount the retaining clips to the back side of the bumper suport.

Unfortunately the PDF does not give part numbers, so close and yet so far. It indicates the fasteners I need are the "L" Blind Rivets. I will take all of my new info and hit the ole BMW parts counter.


I was actually given some of the "Fixing Plugs" Part number 51471911992 as Sudesh mentioned. They are #20 on the the Rear Bumper schematic:

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...22&hg=51&fg=15

Not sure if this the "Blind Rivet" mentioned above. I do not quite understand how they work. They seem just to push into place. Why do they have a "two level" top to them? Do you push them into the first lip and then cut of the top part???

Really wish BMW parts computer gave a better description fo how this Bumper Support gets attached!!! They failed to tell you about the retaining clips on the back or which fastener goes into the bottom.

Is there anyone else who has done a stock install of the Bumper Support on their 4.6?? Or even someone who has done the retrofit?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!

Sudesh 10-16-2006 04:53 PM

The way the rivit works is, you push it into the hole first, then you push the top part (the plunger) of the rivit into the bottom part forcing the bottom part of the rivit to spread open/widen inside the bumper giving a firm grip.

2002Silver4.6is 10-16-2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudesh
The way the rivit works is, you push it into the hole first, then you push the top part (the plunger) of the rivit into the bottom part forcing the bottom part of the rivit to spread open/widen inside the bumper giving a firm grip.

Thanks!

Sudesh 10-16-2006 05:01 PM

No problem!!! Let us know how you get on.

bsprtsgrp 10-16-2006 08:37 PM

The part number for the rivet is 51-71-8-219-511

If you tell the parts counter to look-up the install kit for the body flares it's an indented BOM #51-11-7-073-517 of which the above part number is part of (including 51-71-7-002-953)

Sudesh 10-16-2006 08:40 PM

That part number listed is for a BMW E52 Alpina see here: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...=51&fg=15&hl=7

bsprtsgrp 10-16-2006 08:51 PM

I just had the Body Kit installed a month ago and I needed to order the installation kit myself. I am reading that part number directly from my service invoice for the installation. There were only 2 of these rivets (51-71-8-219-511) in the kit, the rest of the kit included the the jig (01-29-0-402-662), and 25 other rivets (51-71-7-002-953) that hold the front of the flare which extends off of the running boards.

Sudesh 10-16-2006 08:54 PM

They must be pretty much universal items then as I have noticed through out many years working and modding on BMW's that, alot of parts are all interchangable....

2002Silver4.6is 10-18-2006 10:41 PM

Thank you for the additional responses. Let me tell you, this web forum is amazing! You guys have been one hell of a big help!!!:beerchug:

When I decided to replace my damaged Bumper Support I thought it would be easy. I got the part and it did not come with any of the mounting hardware. The guy at the dealership, who is a helpful guy, had no idea of what I needed to mount the Bumper Support. The BMW parts schematic at the dealership did not list any of the requisit parts.

The installation instructions that were posted showed some retaining clips needed for the back of the Bumper Support. They go onto the posts on the back of the Bumper Support that go through the bumper.

As if this were a mystery, it was posted to order part number 51-11-7-073-157. The parts guy was quite interested to see what we would get. It showed a "mystery box" on the parts schematic on his computer. Turns out that this part number is for the metal retaining clips for the back of the Bumper Support.

We thought the afore mentioned part number might be a complete installation kit (including all rivets) so I had not ordered the Blind Rivets part number 51-71-8-219-511. The "installation kit" was only the retaining clips. So I will need to get the Blind Rivets.

I am hoping when I get those the head will not be too small. I have a strange feeling it will be but you guys have been 100% correct so far!!

Once again... thanks!!!!!

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DONONE69 04-21-2010 06:50 AM

very handy info on the installation


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