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Sudesh 12-05-2006 05:53 PM

Anyone Know What This Is And For?
 
My 12/03 4.6 has a small pack with a positive and negative terminal, and there is positive and negative wires running from it to the terminal under the hood.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...5/DSC00777.jpg

supersteve 12-05-2006 05:57 PM

What electrical after market goodies do you have?

Sudesh 12-05-2006 06:02 PM

The only aftermarket mods I have, that are anyway electrical are
1: DVD player
2: Ipod install
3: 360bhp engine remap
4: reverse camera

noncom23 12-05-2006 06:07 PM

Negative power coupling:rofl:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudesh
My 12/03 4.6 has a small pack with a positive and negative terminal, and there is positive and negative wires running from it to the terminal under the hood.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...5/DSC00777.jpg


The Cleaner 12-05-2006 06:10 PM

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I think the size is giving away what it's powering. I spotted one of them years ago and snapped a photo.


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Sudesh 12-05-2006 06:13 PM

AHHH the flux capisator wondered what I was missing in the 4.6!! Just need to set a date for the past and take an almanac with me to make a load more cash!!

noncom23 12-05-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudesh
AHHH the flux capisator wondered what I was missing in the 4.6!! Just need to set a dat and take an almanac with me to make a load more cash!!

Can we get a group buy for this?:rofl:

Sudesh 12-05-2006 06:17 PM

That would be great group buy!!! Think though the best one to go for is the garbage one, rather than the Plutonium, could be harder to get hold off plus I dont think ebay sell stock of plutonium!!

noncom23 12-05-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudesh
That would be great group buy!!! Think though the best one to go for is the garbage one, rather than the Plutonium, could be harder to get hold off plus I dont think ebay sell stock of plutonium!!

Hold on I'll check.

supersteve 12-05-2006 06:22 PM

Too funny!
Sudesh,
Back to what I said on the other post about straightening your short hairs. If you ground out the positive to the negative before you start wrenching on it, if it is a capacitor, it will drain it protecting your short hairs. Try it. see what stops working.

Sudesh 12-05-2006 06:24 PM

I dont fancy finding out what doesnt work incase it throws up some faults on the OBC or Cluster. But I would love to know what its for especially if no one has it???

noncom23 12-05-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudesh
I dont fancy finding out what doesnt work incase it throws up some faults on the OBC or Cluster. But I would love to know what its for especially if no one has it???

So thats not the ground lug? Ooops. Sorry, you meant that coil.

Sudesh 12-05-2006 06:33 PM

The ground lug is the big silver bolt attached to the body. But I have another thing sitting almost beside it, thats the subject of the thread. If you follow the black wire back it attaches to some sort of capicator or something. Some people mentioned on the other thread that, they dont have it, and wondered what it is??? I dont have a clue myself so just started this thread to see who, if anyone, has it or to find out what exactly it is??

the head 12-05-2006 07:01 PM

Sudesh I am working on my X tonight I will see if mine has that as well it could be a 4.6is specific part looks like a large power cap or a selonoid coil (for the VANOS vvt system maybe?) I will also look in my shop manuals to see what I can dig up on it.

Sudesh 12-05-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the head
Sudesh I am working on my X tonight I will see if mine has that as well it could be a 4.6is specific part looks like a large power cap or a selonoid coil (for the VANOS vvt system maybe?) I will also look in my shop manuals to see what I can dig up on it.

Ok thanks!! I've been looking at my BMW parts system and cant find it yet on there either??

vinuneuro 12-05-2006 07:13 PM

Which side of the engine bay is it on? Mounted by the firewall? Are there only wires running to it, or do wires run to a part of the engine as well?

Sudesh 12-05-2006 07:20 PM

It's passanger side UK / drivers side USA. The only wires running to it are positive from the positive terminal of the X to the unit, and negative from the unit to the ground lug/bolt and thats it!!

CanadianX5 12-05-2006 07:25 PM

It looks like a 1/2 farad capacitor that is installed wrong.
Caps that size are used for aftermarket amps, but need to be installed close to the amp (usually in the trunk)
Here is a pic for comparison.
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/3634.html

Sudesh 12-05-2006 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianX5
It looks like a 1/2 farad capacitor that is installed wrong.
Caps that size are used for aftermarket amps, but need to be installed close to the amp (usually in the trunk)
Here is a pic for comparison.
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/3634.html

I dont have any aftermarket AMPS in my X? All original equipment accept for the DVD which I installed myself!

CanadianX5 12-06-2006 02:53 AM

Did you buy your X new from a dealer? Or used?

Sudesh 12-06-2006 05:40 AM

I purchased it from the dealer, it was the BMW directors car, run as a demo model.

supersteve 12-06-2006 09:34 AM

I'm thinking they may have used it as a filter for the radio. I'm pretty sure it isn't a stock item.

Does the end not in the picture go to the power lug on the fire wall?

Sudesh 12-06-2006 09:40 AM

Yeah the end goes to the power terminal on the firewall!!!

supersteve 12-06-2006 09:48 AM

It's very much, absolutly, without a doubt, quite possibly a capacitor.

Some people use them to filter out ignition noise from the radio. Could it have possibly had a CB or other two way radio before you purchased it? Can you go back to the dealer and ask?

The reason I ask is, if it fails, it should short your battery. If it severs no prupose now, I would (carefully) pull it out. Disconnect the ground. use a screw driver to short the terminals on it to discharge it. then pull it out if you decide too.

supersteve 12-06-2006 09:49 AM

Sorry about my english in the last post. I work nights and I'm ready for bed. I think you can get the drift though.

Sudesh 12-06-2006 09:56 AM

No problem steve! It never had a CB or two way radio of any kind? Plus I think your right in that it does not seem to serve any purpose as there are no other wires running off the unit. There is just the positive and negative from the X's terminals running to it, and that all!

CanadianX5 12-06-2006 03:34 PM

Its definately aftermarket. Pull it out.

motordavid 12-06-2006 03:36 PM

Maybe a JamesBond type gizmo, Sudesh?! ;>)

Be careful; that sucker's gotta have some juice.
BR,mD

the head 12-06-2006 03:41 PM

I didn't see one of those in my car...could be a european part? might be there as a filter cap to get alternator noise out of the stereo if you decide to remove it be careful man or try to discharge it first but without knowing the farad rating and voltage I am unsure what size of resistor to use on it.

Sudesh 12-06-2006 03:43 PM

I'm going to remove it tomorow and hopefully all will still be well with the X!

the head 12-06-2006 04:19 PM

Try Not To Hit Any Part Fo The Car When Unbolting Those Connections! You Dont Want To Damage The Paint! Or Your Self!

Sudesh 12-06-2006 04:21 PM

No problem!! I'm going to go down the careful route and use some insulating coverings for the body and handling of the item.

broknlgs24 12-06-2006 04:32 PM

y not just disconnect the battery prior to removing?:dunno:

noncom23 12-06-2006 04:36 PM

:iagree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by broknlgs24
y not just disconnect the battery prior to removing?:dunno:


Sudesh 12-06-2006 04:43 PM

Yeah good idea!!! Forgot all about it??

the head 12-06-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broknlgs24
y not just disconnect the battery prior to removing?:dunno:

capacators hold charge AFTER power has been removed while a good idea if that thing is a cap is will still have residual charge so precautions must be taken

broknlgs24 12-06-2006 05:15 PM

if, after disconnecting the battery, Sudesh pumped the
brakes a few times, would that discharge whatever it is
that that thing is.

supersteve 12-06-2006 05:19 PM

Any amp draw "should" discharge it. Turn the headlights on will "probably" work also.

Sudesh 12-06-2006 05:35 PM

Ok guys thank for the extra info!! Caution is a must on this removal.

CanadianX5 12-06-2006 08:32 PM

The capacitor is just a quick discharge battery.
Just be careful with your connections.

If you touch the wires the wrong way it'll scare the crap out of you.
It worse that someone honking the horn while your poking around under the hood.
Funny afterwards.

MatzoBallsX5 12-06-2006 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudesh
The only aftermarket mods I have, that are anyway electrical are
1: DVD player
2: Ipod install
3: 360bhp engine remap
4: reverse camera

Where did you find the reverse camera?

Sudesh 12-07-2006 06:51 AM

I got mine on ebay!

Sudesh 12-07-2006 03:34 PM

Just an update! I removed the capicator today. Its a panisonic 12vd DC 68000 unit. Nothing else attached to it and it did have some charge left in it after I renmoved it. So really it wasnt doing serving any purpose. Thanks for the help guys!!

supersteve 12-07-2006 03:49 PM

Good deal!!

Sudesh 12-07-2006 03:53 PM

Yeah thanks for the help on this steve, once removed I put a screwdriver across the 2 points and it shorted like crazy!! Its also alot neater looking under the hood as that unit looked out of place to begin with.

X5Jay 12-07-2006 04:05 PM

Congrats on the capectomy Sudesh!

Sudesh 12-07-2006 04:07 PM

Thanks Jay!! I would love to know why it was installed?? Guess it's one of those things I'll never know now......

supersteve 12-07-2006 04:13 PM

Ahh. The joys of owning a "Pre-owned" vehicle. If that's the worst you find you'll be lucky.

I knew that mine had been in an accident. I bought it from my sister. But, I thought the dealer that did the repairs would at least put all the parts that it came with back on.

The horns were broken (sounded like a Mini), the brake cooling duct was missing and the outside air temp prode was stuffed up into the headlights. Not to mention the various fasteners that where not replaced.

Ah yes, the joys.

SS

Sudesh 12-07-2006 04:18 PM

I wouldnt really class mine as pre-owned as, it belonged to the BMW director when I purchased it, plus I bought it with only 4,800miles on it and its only got 11,000 now!

noncom23 12-07-2006 05:39 PM

You gonna show it to your tech next time your there?
Gotta know what that is!:rofl:

Sudesh 12-07-2006 06:27 PM

Yeah I'll have a word with them and get a pic posted here too!


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