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Kewl X5 01-23-2007 01:12 PM

UPDATED: Ugh! Need help with electrical problem!!
 
Okay, got the DICE-HD installed in the car over the weekend. Tom G. did a great job!!

Anyhow, called up Tom G. yesterday because I noticed that sometimes the DICE-HD unit would not give me audio via the HD Radio mode, but the iPod audio and AUX audio was fine.

He recommended that I pull the fuses for the radio and CD Changer. The Radio fuse is 7 in the glovebox and CD Changer is the right rear cargo area above the subwoofer and it is labeled #72. He said it would cut power to the DICE-HD unit and allow it to "reboot".

Well, when I put the fuses back in, specifically fuse #72, I saw a small spark and guess what....no MID display, no radio, no steering column memory, but the steering column motor works. No turn signal indicator inside, but the actual turn signals on the outside works. No more seat memory but the power seats work, no activation of PDC when put the car in Reverse, but I can manually turn on PDC....the right mirror doesn't tilt down when I put it in Reverse and the auto-dimming works, but it doesn't shut off when I put it in Reverse. No more heated seats. Also the self-leveling warning light is on (hmmm, never saw that before). Now, my in-dash CD, I can eject the CD (I believe a separate fuse on the actual radio module itself).:confused:

I got another replacement fuse at the correct rating (30) for #72 and no luck. Fuse 7 looks fine but I will try another replacement fuse.

I scoured the Online WDS and can't seem to place common fuse. The steering column memory, heated seats, seat memory seem to be tied together. The radio/MID/CD player are tied together.

Any help from the X5 World experts is welcome. Otherwise, I will let my mechanic sort it out....

Zulu95 01-23-2007 01:55 PM

I would start by removing the DICE-HD and see if it is still blowing fuses. Something is drawing way too much current.

Banana 01-23-2007 02:01 PM

I may be wrong, but aren't you suppose to disconnect the battery before pulling fuses? I hope Tom told you this advice based on experience, and not based on guessing what would work. Please let us know what happens. GL

Kewl X5 01-23-2007 02:03 PM

I am not sure. Anyhow, what if a fuse blows....then there is no more current flowing. What do you do, replace it with another fuse. I guess with the newer BMWs with its electrical complexity, I probably should have just disconnected the battery or disconnected the DICE-HD unit itself.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana
I may be wrong, but aren't you suppose to disconnect the battery before pulling fuses? I hope Tom told you this advice based on experience, and not based on guessing what would work. Please let us know what happens. GL


Kewl X5 01-23-2007 03:13 PM

The DICE-HD was NOT blowing fuses. I was just trying to "reset" or "reboot" the DICE-HD unit by cutting power to it and restoring it. Unfortuately, something happened when I removed and replaced Fuse#72 (30A).



Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu95
I would start by removing the DICE-HD and see if it is still blowing fuses. Something is drawing way too much current.


MiCkEy 01-23-2007 03:23 PM

disconnect the battery for 15 minutes and see if that resets the brain.

MiCkEy 01-23-2007 03:25 PM

Forgot to add, most of the times any input on the dice will not work is partially because HD-Dice input will auto change to say Aux from IPOD even though the OBDC says the opposite. HD-Dice has issues initializing sometimes.

Kewl X5 01-23-2007 03:37 PM

Great idea. I know Tom G. did mention that....Darn, I forgot to try that. Thank you, my fellow A/V guru!!:thumbup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCkEy
disconnect the battery for 15 minutes and see if that resets the brain.


Kewl X5 01-23-2007 03:39 PM

So basically, I should have just left it alone or disconnect the DICE-HD to re-initialize it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCkEy
Forgot to add, most of the times any input on the dice will not work is partially because HD-Dice input will auto change to say Aux from IPOD even though the OBDC says the opposite. HD-Dice has issues initializing sometimes.


MiCkEy 01-23-2007 03:44 PM

yeah I usually disconnect HD-Dice.

Kewl X5 01-23-2007 04:27 PM

Is your HD-DICE behind the glovebox?


Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCkEy
yeah I usually disconnect HD-Dice.


MiCkEy 01-23-2007 04:28 PM

nopes. Under the driver seat. Just reach under and yank the cable out.

Kewl X5 01-23-2007 04:35 PM

Not too easy with my system....it is behind the glovebox area. Thanks for all your help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCkEy
nopes. Under the driver seat. Just reach under and yank the cable out.


xnsf 01-23-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kewl X5
Not too easy with my system....it is behind the glovebox area. Thanks for all your help!

How did you route it to behind the glovebox?

Kewl X5 01-23-2007 07:37 PM

Tom G. did the install. Apparently, there is space behind the glovebox. The HD antenna is routed up the right A-pillar.


Quote:

Originally Posted by xnsf
How did you route it to behind the glovebox?


Kewl X5 01-26-2007 12:01 AM

UPDATE!! Mickey and Tom G was correct about the solution.

I had the X5 hooked up to my mechanics BMW diagnostic computer which showed that there were multiple modules that were not communicating with each other and there was a voltage spike that shut them down.

So, the battery was disconnected and allowed everything to power down/off. Waited for about 1/2 hour and then reconnected the battery. Guess what, everything now works. I just had to reset my clock. All my radio memory, seat/column/mirror memory, etc. were all intact.:thumbup:

The radio/MID display/Sirius all works. DICE-HD iPod & Aux works, but still back to my original problem which is no audio from the HD receiver. I'll have Tom G double check the DICE-HD connections in a couple of weeks.

pseto 03-22-2007 09:59 PM

wow, the same exact thing just happened in my X. My wife gave me all the symptoms and I guess I'll have to disconnect the battery in the AM.


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