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DinanX5 07-10-2005 05:38 PM

Mine is a 2005; the camber plates fit the same on the new X5's as on the older ones (and as far as I know, air suspension does not make a difference either). The strut brace fits both new and old X5's too, although the air suspension models get a slightly different version...
The camber plates were $249, plus $350 for installation at Motor Works West in NJ. (Also, they recommend an alignment after the camber plate install, so that was another $150)
The strut brace was $599, plus $45 for installation. The grand total was about $1475 :wow: ...but the difference is worth it.

DINANM3 07-10-2005 10:49 PM

Dinan X5,
Thanks for the info on the parts. I am going to get the camber plates soon. I am going to hold off on the strut brace because i think the camber plates are responsible for about 90% of the increse in grip you are getting.

Instead of the strut brace i am going to get the throttle body dinan makes thats good for 8 hp. By the way are you getting the throttle body or do you already have it. If you do let me know how you like it.'

Thanks
Tony

batman 07-11-2005 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DINANM3
Dinan X5,
Thanks for the info on the parts. I am going to get the camber plates soon. I am going to hold off on the strut brace because i think the camber plates are responsible for about 90% of the increse in grip you are getting.

Tony

Tony, does Dinan sell those camber plates? Could you elaborate on how the camber plates aid in the handling on the front end? I have only seen strut braces sold by Dinan.

Thanks

X5Flyboy 07-11-2005 03:31 AM

Batman - check out the Dinan website - It will explain better than I and give you some more ideas.

arobacker 07-11-2005 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by batman
Tony, does Dinan sell those camber plates? Could you elaborate on how the camber plates aid in the handling on the front end? I have only seen strut braces sold by Dinan.

Yes, the camber plates are Dinan. They help handling by giving the front wheels -.5 degrees of camber (picture the 2 front tires tilting just a hair so that the tops are closer together - if you're looking at the car from the front they go from this: | | to this: / \ ...OK, obviously not nearly that much, but you get the idea :) This alteration of angle gives them a better bite when cornering, and effectively corrects the excessive understeer.

arobacker 07-11-2005 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DINANM3
Dinan X5,
Thanks for the info on the parts. I am going to get the camber plates soon. I am going to hold off on the strut brace because i think the camber plates are responsible for about 90% of the increse in grip you are getting.

Instead of the strut brace i am going to get the throttle body dinan makes thats good for 8 hp. By the way are you getting the throttle body or do you already have it. If you do let me know how you like it.'

I agree that the camber plates comprise the majority of the improvement. The difference is noticable in almost any turn, but the improvement is astounding in tight turns.
The strut brace is more subtle... it just seems to keep the front end more planted and settled when initiating a corner, and even more so when changing direction (like in the middle of an S-turn). The strut brace definitely does not make a drastic change like on my old 328Ci; some may not even notice the difference on an X5.
I don't have the throttle body - yet! You're probably right to start with the camber plates and the throttle body, and wait on the strut brace. My though was just to do all of the handling improvements first, and come back for the power tuning when Dinan releases the CAI, and the engine/trans software.

batman 07-11-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by arobacker
Yes, the camber plates are Dinan. They help handling by giving the front wheels -.5 degrees of camber (picture the 2 front tires tilting just a hair so that the tops are closer together - if you're looking at the car from the front they go from this: | | to this: / \ ...OK, obviously not nearly that much, but you get the idea :) This alteration of angle gives them a better bite when cornering, and effectively corrects the excessive understeer.

Well thanks anyways. I knew what camber is. Specifically how does the camber plates increase the negative camber, and why not just adjust the camber directly on the suspension since the X5 has that adjustment!? BTW, how does it affect staightline speed and tire wear?
Thanks


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