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Mercedes E class
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Has anyone driven a 2002 onwards Merc E class. How does it compare to the E53 BMW X5. Does it drive better, is it more comfortable, better equipped etc. I am thinking about changing to one, but would like a rough idea before I test drive what I am letting myself in for. |
I have had E55 AMG 03, it is basicly same car, but an M in Benz World
Well it depends, i had mine fully loaded, with keyless go, sat nav, ventilated seats, panoramic roof, airmatic, and so on. It hat better features then the BMW, however !!! The car i had was a computer on wheels, so as your home pc it did not like it to cold, not to hot, not to wet and so on, i constantly had some kind of electronic issue, this is suppose to be better or fixed from 04 ,but 03 and specially 02 are not that good. There is one more thing you should check that is EBC it is an electronic brake system that benz introduced in E-Class and on the first models (02 -04) the brakes could mailfuncion, there is a free uppgrade with the dealer, make sure that it is done. If the car is not fully loaded then you have nothing to worry about, less electronic on 02 means less truble. However there is one problem that will remaine, E-Class blows the lamps a lot dont know why, but you will probably have to change plate, position and brake lights often. Then there is ofcurse the style, i personaly am not a benz person, al do the car i had handled the road as any beemer would, i felt old in it, BMW is always going to be a better car Hope this will be hellpfull info for you |
the first year or two the electronics where F-ed up. people never got navigation,etc to work and MB had to buy the cars back.
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The E is reaching the end of its current model year you can probably get a good lease deal The current model is well seasoned and has most of its electrical problems improved.
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Apple: My 2005 X5. Remarkably fun car to drive. No recurrent problems. Great fun to drive.
Orange: My wife's 2003 E320. Multiple electrical gremlins the dealer claims to fix, but come back in a few days/weeks. Latest is the right front low beam headlight. Goes out; bulb and socket have been replaced; out again now. Tire pressure sensors not working; fixed; not working. You get the idea. Comfortable car, pleasure to drive. Annoying to own. Probably will not buy another MB for a long time (and this is the third MB we have had). |
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Drove a 2006 E350... Nice smooth ride, but not the same at all with the thing as an X5. |
My Mercedes E430 is the biggest POS ever. Transmission computer failure, transmission failure, electrical problems all the time, side mirrors fell off the other day, front plastic thing under the bumber fell of last week, power seat controls fell down inside the door, front differential is making horrindious noise now. Why on earth anybody would want this garbage car is beyond me. I'm looking to replace it ASAP with an X5.
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I know this being an X5 forum and all so i expect some grief for the following comments I am going to make.
My 2004 4.4i X5 Sport has done only 26k miles, and I have had it since 22k miles. It has been a massive dissappointment and has failed to impress me in any way bar its accelleration and top speed (had 138mph up). I bought it as I had a3.0i with manual transmission and it was an SE. It was a pleasure to own, so I bought the 4.4i car thinking it will be even better as its a sport. How wrong was I? The extra mass over the front end (V8 weights more than in line 6) and I think there is a massive difference between the 2. 2ndly, my car has servo tronic which gives the steering more resistance @ speed and less @ town speed. Nice idea in theory, but it makes any level of performance driving difficult. My old car didn't have this, and it kept up with much more sporty cars on twisty roads. In the 4.4i car I can't go taunting Porsche Boxsters like I could in lesser powered car. In short I think it was a massive waste of money, and a mistake to buy it. My old man got an E class as a rental, and said he thought it was exceptionally good to drive (and despite being a 220cdi) no slower down a twisty road than his Porsche Cayenne S (a car I have driven that IMO comprehensively lifts the on road 4x4 SUV game on a notch on from the X5). I loved my old X5, thought it was a fantastic car, and can't seem to say the same about this car. I am aware of the E class amd merc reliability. I found a 2005 diesel model for sale, and any feedback on the car would be much appreciated (and has been) |
thats very strange, I can keep up with most of those cars on twisty roads with my 2006 4.4 sport... maybe you dont have sport package?
how big are your wheels/tires? |
V8 is shorter so its shoved back further than you can with the I6. you don't have 'more' weight over the front wheels.
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There is still more mass (by 100-200kg) extra in the front of the car and the suspension settings (correct me if I am wrong) are different to that of the 3.0i car.
I (and a UK journalist) have noted that the 3.0i car is sweeter to drive than the V8. the argument goes for the 645i vs the 630i, the 630i is lighter and better to drive due the relative lack of mass of the L6 to the V8. My X5 4.4i is a sport model, it has the 19 inch rims, the black headlining, and was sold as a sport. My old 3.0i was a SE, and lacked the sport suspension that my current car has. is there a dealer fix to remove the viarable power assistance, so it has the same resistance, no matter how fast or slow you go. That would go a long way to improving the drivability of the car. |
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I did indeed like the E quite much, but it just wasn't for me. Every time I got out of it, or was walking to it, I didn't feel the same way I do when I walk to, or get out of, my X.... |
Buying a used E will yield problems like those listed in this thread:
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...e-repairs.html I still think a lease on a new E will cost less in the end. If you can't afford that , you might be better off looking at other cars (not german). |
No grief from me and your opinion matters around here but i have to say there must be some major differences in your X and my 2005 4.4 cause i don't have any trouble keeping up with anyone. As far as steering goes just the other night i was zipping around cars like they were going out of style. But then again i don't have the sport package and i may not have the "servo tronic". But i can understand if you were expecting something else.
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ok here's my two cents:
It is hard to compare a SUV vs sedan. I drive a E53 2002 X5 4.4 V8 and a W210 2002 E320 V6. hard to compare when it comes to engine. E53 is great lots of power but a little loud. the bells and whistles are great but the acoustics is nothing compare to Benz. When I want to long striaght highway driving, I prefer the benz much comfortable ride than the E53 for obvious reason. For short trips and windy roads E53 is my choice. My E320 is the special edition so it has everything except the nav. |
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I agree with you, Benz is a nice confort ride, BMW is fun ride :) |
I just traded my 02' E320 4Matic Wagon in on a 04' X5 3.0. The Benz was a good car for my family and we never had troubles with it. I have heard many horror stories on electric issues and bad shock towers. When I brought my Benz in for my pre-purchase inspection I asked the service advisor which body style he would buy and he said the w211 had lots of issues and to go with the w210 body as it was much more reliable. I really love my X5 and will never buy amother Mercedes again because I think we were only lucky with ours.
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It is my understanding that most of the electrical issues have been improved on the current models; do you really think its still a problem?
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If you are going to buy a benz, your best bet is a s series or ml series. I have and still have both in my garage. They run very well and haven't given an problems.
2002 ML55 1999 S600 |
older ML's body style w163 also are very prone to problems as well. Not to sure on the newer w164 body style.
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If you want e-class i would not recomend w211 pre facelift, it is electronic desaster on wheels:) Same thing basicly applys to C-Class pre facelift, but it has less issues then E As someone said lease a facelift version, or pay some more for it. |
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