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saffrontiger 09-07-2005 11:25 PM

X5 Diesel?
 
Anyone know the status if they might bring this to the USA?
Jay

BMWood5 09-08-2005 04:02 AM

First of all, I have the 3.o deisel. Though I honestly havent been in a 4.8is, I am sure that this has to be at least the second best X5. It rocks. I have heard rumors that when the new 07 model conmes out, along with the 5.0 is, there will be a 4.0 diesel offered.

BTW, I have discovered through various pubs that the BMW 3.0 is the best on the market. Or maybe I wanted to see that since I also have a 3.0D Audi A6 that flies

powers1 09-08-2005 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWood5
First of all, I have the 3.o deisel. Though I honestly havent been in a 4.8is, I am sure that this has to be at least the second best X5. It rocks. I have heard rumors that when the new 07 model conmes out, along with the 5.0 is, there will be a 4.0 diesel offered.

BTW, I have discovered through various pubs that the BMW 3.0 is the best on the market. Or maybe I wanted to see that since I also have a 3.0D Audi A6 that flies

IT MUST BE SAID that the 4.8 and the 4.6 before it,are the best x5s without a doubt.People only buy the Diesel because of cost and the better fuel consumption!Then like me,with my 3.0 Diesel,you want to give it the" big brother" look by getting the 4.6/4.8 bodykit,the 20" wheels,the exhaust tips and you get a 4.6/4.8 LOOK DIESEL!!!!!!
Diesel fuel prices in Europe are almost the same as Gasoline(in the U.K. the Diesel fuel is even more expensive!).The 3.0 Diesel Auto does between 23-28 Mpg.while the the "big brothers" do below 20mpg(although on a recent thread it was said that a 4.4 Dinan modifed does over 20mpg!!!!!).Gasoline prices in the United States are far cheaper than in Europe,and going by what someone here said,the Diesel is not as refined and therefore not very suitable for high tech Diesel engines,and the difference in fuel consumption is not that much,so there arent many arguments in favour of BMW USA getting the Diesel!They already have the 3.0i,which is similar price to the 3.0D.Here in Europe the X5 3.0 engines are in direct competition because of pricing,they also have similar standing start and top speed performance.Where the Diesel excels in its V8 like torque(500Nms) and in gear acceleration,slightly better fuel consumption and engine longevity,service costs and better residual values.Personally,from a marketing point of view,it is not feasible for a 3.0 Diesel in the States(they would have to withdraw the 3.0i!).but I am sure you all have different ideas and it would be nice to exchange opinions....

tomwac 09-08-2005 11:56 AM

Equal consumption of fuel ???? :bustingup Come on, I have a collegue who's got a 3.0i and he never goes below 13-14l/100km (and he is a slow driver). I'm running 9.5l. Performance wise, the 3.0i will eat dust, just read some reviews in decent car magazines. With my stock diesel I outran a Cayenne 3.0 (the cheapest one, not S), I kid you not. He was sticking to my a** and when I changed lanes to let him pass, I floored it and the guy was slowly getting more and more behind. He will even eat more dust after I install the Ac-Schnitzer tuning module tonight :thumbup:
IMHO, the 3.0d is the second best bangs for money, when it comes to an X5.

powers1 09-08-2005 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwac
Equal consumption of fuel ???? :bustingup Come on, I have a collegue who's got a 3.0i and he never goes below 13-14l/100km (and he is a slow driver). I'm running 9.5l. Performance wise, the 3.0i will eat dust, just read some reviews in decent car magazines. With my stock diesel I outran a Cayenne 3.0 (the cheapest one, not S), I kid you not. He was sticking to my a** and when I changed lanes to let him pass, I floored it and the guy was slowly getting more and more behind. He will even eat more dust after I install the Ac-Schnitzer tuning module tonight :thumbup:
IMHO, the 3.0d is the second best bangs for money, when it comes to an X5.

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Check this thread http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?t=4890 Theres a guy with a Dinan 4.4 Getting 11-12l/100km(24 Mpg)!!!!!!!Thats what I and a lot of my friends with Diesels are getting(possibly in low 10s pussy footing around!!)
Your 2005 X5 Diesel is faster than the 3.0i,unfortunately us with pre-2004 can just about hang on with them on top speed,in gear accelleration but not off -the line (0-100km/h...3.0d=10.1 secs.....3.0i=8.5....Manual cars).
Itis always nice to hear a BMW beating a Porsche!Nice one Tom!How do you find your 4.4 exhausts?No too much smoke ,I hope!Would be really nice to have your feedback on the Schnitzer module...Thanks.

X5 Sport 09-08-2005 05:43 PM

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I have attached a picture of my car computer. I hope you can see it and you will understand why we go for oil burners in europe!

powers1 09-08-2005 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by X5 Sport
I have attached a picture of my car computer. I hope you can see it and you will understand why we go for oil burners in europe!

Check this link http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=42

Here you will see a roadtest where a heavy footed driver averaged 14 MPG and then the other road tester managed 24Mpg but driving like a wimp!!The car is the sports packaged version with the 19" wheels so it is expected to consume more than an X5 on 17s or 18s.
In your picture,I see 33.2 Mpg and 24.1 Mpg with an average speed showing
of 45.7 km/h(28.5Mph).Still I am glad that you are happy with consumption of your X5.The best I have seen on mine ,not exceeding any speed limits was 28 Mpg!(I have the 20"s btw)

JayBee 09-08-2005 07:32 PM

At the moment I am getting 11.3l/100km strictly around town driving. Out of a 93 litre tank I get approx 850 k's and only have done 5500k's on th clock.

I am very happy with the comsumption, I just cannot see how the petrol would be getting better fuel economy than the diesel?

For those in the know, should I expect to get better fuel consumption as the K's on the clock increase?

powers1 09-09-2005 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JayBee
At the moment I am getting 11.3l/100km strictly around town driving. Out of a 93 litre tank I get approx 850 k's and only have done 5500k's on th clock.

I am very happy with the comsumption, I just cannot see how the petrol would be getting better fuel economy than the diesel?

For those in the know, should I expect to get better fuel consumption as the K's on the clock increase?

Dont see anyone saying you get better fuel consumption with a petrol x5!In the experience of a group of X5 Diesel owners here in Portugal,we are getting between 28 and 24Mpg(10-11.75 ltr/100)(maybe 30Mpg(9.3 ltr/100 wimp driving!).Some of us with "soft"reprogrammed ECUs are getting 27-22Mpg!
All Of the X5 group with 3.0i get 21-23Mpg(12.2-13.4 ltr/100).4.4 and 4.6 here are always complaining they are getting below 20 Mpg(14 ltr/100)!!
An exception to this is a posting from a member here that managed to get +24Mpg on his DInan 4.4.,which I too find hard to believe!! :confused:

mogsyman 09-09-2005 04:56 AM

My 3.0d Sport is now 6 months old. It has 18500 miles on the clock and has been chipped with a Tunit box to add about 40-50bhp to the 218 under the hood.

Not only does it go like a train, but I drive it like everyday is its last and I have left one of the average mpg computers alone since day 1. It currently shows 26.9mpg which I think is amazing.

On a run to the South of France last month we averaged 34mpg and that included 850 miles both ways at an average 85mph with a car full of kids and clobber.

I would really like a thumping V8 for all the right reasons but in the UK with fuel prices as they are and driving the mileage I do I just can't justify it.


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