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williamssk123 09-15-2008 08:27 PM

Continental 315/30-22 Balance PROBLEM
 
i just installed 22 inch replica 4.8 wheels on my 04 x5 3.0 sport package. They are 22x9.5 in the front and 22x11 in the rear. I am running 265/35/22 in the front and 315/30/22 in the rear. The wheels and tires look great but It rides horible. I have gotten the tires balanced 6 times in the last 3 weeks and had one rear tire replaced and still no help. It was also balanced on a hunter roadforce one of the times. I have had very bad rear vibration. The front just shakes from side to side. They are replacing the tires with toyo to see if it helps. Any Ideas on the problem? I am hoping the tires are not round. Everytime the have balanced the tires they have been out of balance by a little bit.

The only other thing I have done was to have the truck alinged before I put the rims on. I had the shop set it as staight as possible to avoid wear to rear tires. I road on the truck with the stock 18 inche wheels for 1 month before I put the wheels on and had no problem.

Anyone ever put these small balls in there tires. Dyna balance I think is the name. People that have tried them love them.

BMWLOVER 09-15-2008 11:07 PM

Hey sorry I can't help answer your questions but could I see some pics of your x5 with those huge rims. Pm me if you don't want to post the pics in this thread.

Krunk Man 09-16-2008 09:03 AM

are the rims fitting on the hub nice and tight without any movement?

kobe8is 09-16-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWLOVER
Hey sorry I can't help answer your questions but could I see some pics of your x5 with those huge rims. Pm me if you don't want to post the pics in this thread.


+1
:cool:

FSETH 09-16-2008 01:50 PM

Are the reps hubcentric?

Also, the new wheels will ride much more harsh. Could there have been some play in the suspension/steering components that is much more pronounced with the new larger wheels and lower profile tires?

WolfX5 09-16-2008 05:36 PM

I had the identical issue with replica rims on my E53. Balanced more than 1/2 dozen times and still a horrible ride. In my case my rims were 20" not 22" but the bigger the rim the more noticeable the wobble will be.

My problem was that the hub on my rims was cut 1.4 millimeters wider than what the manufacturer advertised. This caused my wheels to not be hub-centric when mounted and the results were horrendous.

I measured the wheels hub diameter then ordered reduction rings to compensate for the difference between the wheel and the actual spindle it mounts too (I ordered aluminum rings from http://www.1010tires.com). The ride was wonderful after the rings were put on. You will likely need the 74.1mm --> 72.56mm rings.

Make sure you take both measurements with a DIGITAL caliper.

Good luck!

williamssk123 09-16-2008 06:25 PM

Ok I have talked the tire shop in to trading the tires in for a different kind. My options are a 305/35/22 rear and 265/40/22 pirelli or 315/30/22 rear 285/35/22 front toyo. I think I am going with the pirellis due to the avaliblity and I am thinking that the taller and slitley skinnyer rear tire may work better. The pirelli is a inche taller and .40 skinnyer rear compaired to the toyo or the cont. I called BMW and he said if the pirelli's will clear it should work. It is 30.40 tall

williamssk123 09-16-2008 06:27 PM

I am not sure how to post the pics you asked for.

FSETH 09-16-2008 06:39 PM

I am pretty sure you are having a hubcentric issue that affects how the replica wheel mounts on the hub. I would bet that the tires are not your issue.

Brit6 09-16-2008 07:02 PM

OT: I'm trying to remember if style 87 reps are the correct hub size or not?

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Originally Posted by FSETH
I am pretty sure you are having a hubcentric issue that affects how the replica wheel mounts on the hub. I would bet that the tires are not your issue.


FSETH 09-16-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brit6
OT: I'm trying to remember if style 87 reps are the correct hub size or not?

Doesn't more than one company make 87 reps?

Brit6 09-16-2008 07:35 PM

Do you think that some do need rings and some don't?


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Originally Posted by FSETH
Doesn't more than one company make 87 reps?


FSETH 09-16-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brit6
Do you think that some do need rings and some don't?

I don't know the answer to that. I just wouldn't be surprised if more than one company makes a certain model replica wheel and maybe some are hubcentric, maybe some aren't or maybe all are or all aren't? I don't really know.

I guess it would be easier to help if the OP told us the details on the particular wheels he has such as brand, model and so on.

It just seems to me that there is a trend with people complaining about vibrations after they have installed non-oem aftermarket rims on a BMW. Not saying all will cause this, but it is a common issue.

williamssk123 09-16-2008 07:48 PM

I am going to check mine in the morning. Thanks for the tip on where to get the rings also.

WolfX5 09-17-2008 01:43 PM

Yes, more than one company makes the style 87 replicas. Many of the guys on the forum have purchased AFS wheels, mine were a no-brand manufactured in China and sourced thru The Wheel Group in Colorado.

The point of my previous post was that you MUST measure if you're having this particular problem as what's printed on the box may not be what's included in the box. That was my problem - the BOX the wheels came in said that the wheels were cut to 72.56mm when in fact my caliper measured them at the much more "universal" BMW size of 74.1mm.

It doesn't sound like 1.4mm would be enough to throw the wheel off but believe me they were literally-embarrassing to drive down the road with passengers in the car because the wheels wobbled so much.

Ok, that's my 2 cents...good luck!

Brit6 09-17-2008 01:45 PM

Yupp, i have AFS wheels, but i never measured the bore size, i just have a small vibration in the passenger seat.

williamssk123 09-20-2008 11:21 AM

You guys are great. The hub rigns worked perfect. My truck rides smooth as glass even with the big fat rubbers on the back.

MC330CI 10-10-2008 03:17 PM

Post a pic of your ride with the rims dude!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamssk123
You guys are great. The hub rigns worked perfect. My truck rides smooth as glass even with the big fat rubbers on the back.


williamssk123 10-10-2008 09:15 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ruck4re012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ruck4re007.jpg

MC330CI 10-13-2008 10:06 AM

Man those are some sweet looking rims!!!

anerbe 10-23-2008 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by williamssk123
You guys are great. The hub rigns worked perfect. My truck rides smooth as glass even with the big fat rubbers on the back.

Did you keep the conti's on it?

toohotdoc 10-24-2008 01:55 PM

I had this problem, this was my solution: I had changed the bolts to have the wheels fit and added universal bolts with nuts. When I changed my tires for the second time and added 305/30/22 to the rears, I had vibration. I went back to the tire shop and realized that the longer universal bolts were lose, so simple tightening of the bolts with a allen key resolved everything. This was my problem, so check it out and GL.

Post some pics of your ride.


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