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jakpan2004 09-25-2008 11:48 AM

X5 E53 ENGINE OVERHEAT
 
Hi, just bought my fairly use X5 E53 3.0i and it started overheating from day 1, I have changed the Expansion tank which was leaking from the valve, fan clutch I discovered was faulty and was change, Thermostat housing was leaking and changed. I have bled the cooling system according and the engine is still overheating. What could actually be the problem any assistance will be appreciated.
I even had to remove the thermostat from the housing hoping the hot climate may compound issues, it only slowed down the heating time against when it was installed. The radiator is not leaking and it was flushed. will there be a difference to change the radiator from single vane to double vane

UCrewX5 09-25-2008 12:22 PM

Has the water pump been checked? That is the next thing I would replace.

motordavid 09-25-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5
Has the water pump been checked? That is the next thing I would replace.

:iagree: ...and make sure your coolant fill is the rec'd 50-50 coolant
and distilled water.

We have run our '01 3.0 is some serious warm summer temps, in
hours of stop and go driving and the needle has never budged
from straight up, dead center. This isn't Nigeria, I realize, but
something is amiss...if no leaks, the water pump is the obvious
try, imo.
GL,mD

PS: you didn't mention whether or not your aux cooling fan is coming on; it should
on any kind of condition where your engine is warmed up and the ambient temps
are just "warm", imo. Without that aux fan to pull air across the radiator space,
you are fighting an uphill battle to maintain the engine's proper temp.

Oil "cools" the "bottom"/lower end of the engine and the circulating coolant cools
the "top" end of engine, to be poetic...but without the upper cooling, the entire
engine can get past the tipping point of proper operating temps.

reg 09-25-2008 04:15 PM

Check the water pump!!
 
The 3.0i has a plastic propeller water pump. They usually fail around 90,000 miles. check or change it now because very bad things can happen it the engine overheats (HEAD GASKET)...

jakpan2004 09-26-2008 06:41 AM

Thanks Guys for the reply and suggestions. I have actually checked the water pump, the water is circulating while the vehicle is steaming, this you observe while bleeding the system. All this is kind of leading to the head gasket..
Question??? if the top head cylinder is affected by the overheating, what other signs can I expector observe apart from the over heating. There have being suggestion from friends that the top is gone or the gasket and the top head cylinder is damaged

jakpan2004 09-26-2008 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg
The 3.0i has a plastic propeller water pump. They usually fail around 90,000 miles. check or change it now because very bad things can happen it the engine overheats (HEAD GASKET)...


My X5 is 98,000 miles, I will physically check if the plastic propeller has broken vanes

jakpan2004 09-26-2008 06:48 AM

My observation here is that, pressure is pushing the water out of the radiator, with observation of bubbles from the system, as if the water us boiling or steaming from inside the engine.




Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
:iagree: ...and make sure your coolant fill is the rec'd 50-50 coolant
and distilled water.

We have run our '01 3.0 is some serious warm summer temps, in
hours of stop and go driving and the needle has never budged
from straight up, dead center. This isn't Nigeria, I realize, but
something is amiss...if no leaks, the water pump is the obvious
try, imo.
GL,mD

PS: you didn't mention whether or not your aux cooling fan is coming on; it should
on any kind of condition where your engine is warmed up and the ambient temps
are just "warm", imo. Without that aux fan to pull air across the radiator space,
you are fighting an uphill battle to maintain the engine's proper temp.

Oil "cools" the "bottom"/lower end of the engine and the circulating coolant cools
the "top" end of engine, to be poetic...but without the upper cooling, the entire
engine can get past the tipping point of proper operating temps.


UCrewX5 09-26-2008 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakpan2004
My X5 is 98,000 miles, I will physically check if the plastic propeller has broken vanes

If you have the water pump off then you might as well go ahead and replace it.

alpac 09-26-2008 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakpan2004
My observation here is that, pressure is pushing the water out of the radiator, with observation of bubbles from the system, as if the water us boiling or steaming from inside the engine.

Several possible reasons but I would try to rule out a possible blown head gasket first. Do you have white smoke from your tail pipes? Check your oil dipstick and look if the oil has a milky aspect from being contaminated by water. If you have one of these conditions then stop using the car and get a compression check at a garage.

Weasel 09-26-2008 08:26 AM

The waterpump is easy to remove, only 4 screws on the pulley and 4 nuts on the pump. But if it did overheat bad enough to cause head gasket problems what usually happend is the higher expansion rate of the aluminum head stretches the head bolts and pulls the threads from the block. What we do to test for that at the dealer is pull the valve cover and try to re-torque the head bolts. If they have a problem, they will strip out rather than tighten.

jakpan2004 09-26-2008 12:42 PM

The vehicle does not smoke and there is no mixture of water in the oil, but the engine is rather overheating faster now, less than 20 min with the AC on.

alpac 09-26-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakpan2004
The vehicle does not smoke and there is no mixture of water in the oil, but the engine is rather overheating faster now, less than 20 min with the AC on.

If the water pump is ok and you checked/changed the thermostat and it is not a head gasket (yet) then something is clogging the circuit. At that mileage you may have some of hoses plastic connectors starting to disintegrate and being conveyed through the cooling circuit. I had that problem on mine. If the hoses have not been changed yet at that mileage they need to.

alpac 09-26-2008 12:51 PM

also needless to say that you should not drive it until you find out what the problem is otherwise your next problem will be the head gasket

Weasel 09-26-2008 07:31 PM

May be worth having the dealer diagnose it, that way it is their baby if it overheats again after they fix it as they do stand behind their work.

JohnD 09-26-2008 08:58 PM

Is the high speed kicking on when the AC is on? If not you have a faulty fan switch which would cause the overheating

jakpan2004 09-28-2008 05:43 AM

Hi Guys, looks like the engine head gasket is gone, I observed water vapour on the oil cap and the oil colour is milky around the oil cap. But there is no water contaminant in the oil sump, the dip stick is clean and oil texture okay. What could this mean, steam escaping to the top head cylinder but water not mixing with the oil. maybe starting to. Garrage is on holiday till thursday before I can take the car for repairs

jakpan2004 09-28-2008 05:58 AM

I have actually stopped driving the car, embarrasing to stop here and there due to overheating. Using my Altima for now. The AC fan is working well. I will await the garrage to open then send the vehicle in for proper diagnostics and repair. Anyone heard of COSCHARIS MOTOR LTD. They are the authorised importer of BMW in Nigeria. Thats where I will be going for repairs but rather very expensive.

captx5 10-18-2008 01:02 PM

How did you solve the problem? Did changing the water pump help? Hope you're back on the road in the X5.

sawastea 10-23-2008 12:37 PM

I'm curious as well, as this happened to me last night after leaving my truck at LaGuardia for four days. Drove it home to CT, and 1/2 it went to red, as I was arriving home, a red water pressure icon was flashing on and off and there was a distinct 'clicking' that came with the light. I was lucky to get it home. This morning, I filled the truck with coolant and 2L of oil and ran it for 20min and it seemed fine, albeit, the 'check engine soon' icon was on. Will take it to the garage ASAP, and the worst part is my wife needs to drive it tomorrow to take her mom to the airport with a lot of luggage :mad:


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