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sudolg 01-06-2009 03:31 PM

Code: "Stop! Oil Press" then "Check engine oil"
 
So....I know the obvious meaning to this code would be an oil pressure problem. Wife called and asked me what she should do. Anyone ever see this? 2005 4.4. She indicates the gauge was in the middle as usual.

motordavid 01-06-2009 03:38 PM

Dunno what "gauge was in the middle as usual"...you mean.

My first pick is check the oil and top off a couple of qts, as necessary, allowing for drain time.

My next pick is the crank vent regulator clogged or giving up...a
much nastier situ, and probably requiring a tow.

Something beyond that means Hell's A Poppin...
GL,mD

primetime 01-06-2009 03:55 PM

Check the oil level...top it off if its low.. Check the bottom of the car to see if its leaking oil, or check to see if you can smell oil burning anywhere with the hood popped after a drive...

sudolg 01-06-2009 04:02 PM

Yeah, I'll check this out when she gets home. I'll ask that she keep an eye on the oil pressure gauge to make sure it is showing pressure. No oil on the ground that she was able to see.

JCL 01-06-2009 04:15 PM

You have an oil pressure gauge?

Sounds like you ran out of oil (no pressure), although there is a level switch that should have alerted her. She appears to be keeping an eye on the coolant temperature gauge (the one that stays in the middle).

motordavid 01-06-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL
You have an oil pressure gauge?

Sounds like you ran out of oil (no pressure), although there is a level switch that should have alerted her. She appears to be keeping an eye on the coolant temperature gauge (the one that stays in the middle).

JCL,
That's what I wondered about...OilPress gauge?! :D
At least the good news is the off/on/bad news settings on the temp
gauge stayed in the good "on" position. :thumbup:

sudolg 01-06-2009 04:36 PM

Oh crap. You guys are right. That is coolant. I was thinking of my other car. OK. Now I'm more concerned. I wonder if I could manage to explain to my wife how to check the oil. Wish me luck.

motordavid 01-06-2009 04:39 PM

Have your wife roll into a gas station; even the wackos in the NoSelfPump
state can probably pull the stick and check it...my guess is that it's bone
freakin dry and needs at least 2 qts of synthetic, which the station may
or may not have, and they will rip her on price.

But, it gets her home.

If it is the crankvent/oil reg situ, she may not get home...
Good Luck.

vinuneuro 01-06-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sudolg
So....I know the obvious meaning to this code would be an oil pressure problem. Wife called and asked me what she should do. Anyone ever see this? 2005 4.4. She indicates the gauge was in the middle as usual.

You're going to need a new engine by the time she drives it home like that. Sounds like the engine is out of oil. Most unlikely scenario is that the oil pump went bust for whatever reason. Hope that she didn't drive it like that too long because OEM oil pressure switches are usually triggered when the pressure is critically low. It wouldn't be a bad idea for you to go wherever the car is, add oil if neccessary, and assess problem.

sudolg 01-06-2009 04:47 PM

Well, I don't think it is out of oil. The oil was just changed by the stealer and I checked it the other day. (yes of course something could have happened since then so we'll check it out) I'm going to walk her through checking it very soon and I'll report back. The reason for my post was more to see if there was a known sensor that has gone bad on anyone.

sudolg 01-06-2009 04:51 PM

She won't even start it up if there is no oil showing on the stick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
Have your wife roll into a gas station; even the wackos in the NoSelfPump
state can probably pull the stick and check it...my guess is that it's bone
freakin dry and needs at least 2 qts of synthetic, which the station may
or may not have, and they will rip her on price.

But, it gets her home.

If it is the crankvent/oil reg situ, she may not get home...
Good Luck.


vinuneuro 01-06-2009 05:06 PM

Unless both sensors failed at the same time, the fact that you got Oil Pressure and Oil Level messages simultaneously means that you do have a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sudolg
Well, I don't think it is out of oil. The oil was just changed by the stealer and I checked it the other day. (yes of course something could have happened since then so we'll check it out) I'm going to walk her through checking it very soon and I'll report back. The reason for my post was more to see if there was a known sensor that has gone bad on anyone.


primetime 01-06-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sudolg
She won't even start it up if there is no oil showing on the stick.

you mean the X won't start and there's no oil showing on the dipstick? Or do you mean your wife won't start it?

sudolg 01-06-2009 05:15 PM

So there is oil on the stick. She cleaned it and checked it twice. She started up and no codes present. I'm so proud of her! :-) So we still don't know. If there is low or no pressure, could be the pump or a sensor...

sudolg 01-06-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primetime
you mean the X won't start and there's no oil showing on the dipstick? Or do you mean your wife won't start it?

I won't let her of course.

sudolg 01-06-2009 07:33 PM

She is home. Code never came back. Also, the oil light never came on when she was driving just the code. Oil is full to the top. I guess I'll call the dealer and let them know of the issue just in case.

mrkbbd 01-06-2009 08:31 PM

this has happened about 5 times with mine and after towing it to the dealer 3 times, the dealer told me to turn it off, and turn it back on and if the problem still exists then there is an actual problem

sudolg 01-06-2009 08:38 PM

OK. Thanks! THis is the second type of code in the week I have owned it. The first was for the rear self leveling inactive. This takes me back to the days of owning an early 80s GM car!! :-) Lets hope my luck gets a little better.

Best4x4xFAR 01-07-2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL
You have an oil pressure gauge?

Wouldn't it have been nice if BMW had given us a real oil pressure gauge, in place of that dumb a** vacuum gauge masquerading as an instant MPG monitor? Would have been perfect placement too, IMHO... :dunno:

sudolg 01-07-2009 12:54 PM

Well, you could leave the MPG monitor but at least give me an oil pressure gauge. I had an 85 735i and its cool to see a lot of the features still remain (like the worthless MPG monitor) :-)

ashrafkh 02-25-2009 05:52 PM

the same happens with my 06 E53 from time to time even i have the oil full and newly changed... i suspect a sensor fault because i see that oil sensor available on eBay so this means that this part always gets faulty...but not sure....

norstar 03-30-2009 03:22 PM

There is a known issue with oil pump non-return valve on v8 engines. You should check technical bulletin B110905.

RMak 05-03-2009 08:32 PM

Since I bought my X5 about 3 months ago, I assumed the dealer had given her an oil change. It's been on 5 bars on the oil level indicator on start up. I've driven the X5 for a little more than 2,000 miles already and it's still on the same 5 bars oil level indicator. Is this ok???....

Anyway... Just today I drove to New Jersey (1 hour drive) in the rain. Got to my sisters and all is well. As i'm about to leave (about 5-6 hours later), I start up the X5 and I got the message on the dash "Stop! Oil Press" then "Check engine oil Level". First time i've seen this before. Turned off the truck, then started her up. Never got the message again. Drove 1 hour home back to NY and everything seemed ok. Any thoughts??? :confused:

killcrap 05-03-2009 10:45 PM

ive replaced some of these sensors already, its usually just the oil pressure sensor. most failures occur on the m54 engines. although i have replaced 1 or 2 on n62 engines.

RMak 05-04-2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killcrap (Post 616210)
ive replaced some of these sensors already, its usually just the oil pressure sensor. most failures occur on the m54 engines. although i have replaced 1 or 2 on n62 engines.

Any idea of the cost of an oil pressure sensor? Also, is it an easy DIY? Thanks for the reply...

jeremyd82 07-16-2009 08:14 PM

I got the same code today... it happened right after a really bad rain storm. I went to start my 2003 4.4 and it started but wasn't idling well at all, rpms around 500 it sputtered for about 20 seconds, the dash light displayed "low oil press. stop engine" then about 5 seconds later the light went off and it was running fine. I checked the oil and it was right on the mark. Any idea why this happend!??

snkpkp 07-20-2009 03:39 PM

happened to me today, stoped engine, checked oil level and it was half on the dipstick. So topped her off with some 0W40 Mobil One and checked level again, and it was almost to MAX, and it went away in the next ignition cycle. Does topping off up to MAX cause any problem?

RJRDenver 11-14-2009 01:12 AM

The same issue has started happening on my 03 4.4 and each time it happens immediately after starting. I get the Stop Engine Oil Press message. I shut the engine off and the display shows low oil or something to that effect. Wait a couple seconds and restart with no messages. Only seems to happen when cold out and have checked oil level and all is well.

Going to check out the SB B110905 previously posted.

m5james 11-14-2009 01:31 AM

This is an easy DIY fix. There is an oil pressure sensor on the filter housing that simply unthreads and needs to replaced on the M62 engines RealOEM.com BMW E53 X5 4.4i Lubrication system-Oil filter. I had this same problem occur on my M5 after I washed the engine. There were some early problems w/ the M60/M62 engines where people would drop their oilpans and notice the pump bolts were either only finger tight or had fallen out completely. I would imagine this issue has since been fixed in the newer M62TU's and N62's.

I found this on RealOEM.com BMW E53 X5 4.4i Cylinder Head Attached Parts - Part #13. On the M62's on the oil filter housing, but for you it appears it's on the block itself of your N62, which I've never done. I hope this is the issue and something that isn't terribly hard to get access to. Killcrap is a BMW tech, so I'd follow his advice above most others.

HPIA4v2 11-14-2009 10:04 AM

At least there is oil dipstick on this model for owner to quick check, on all newer BMW if this happens you better not just top it off. It happened on someone E90(faulty oil level gauge), initially the Servive adisor just keep topping it off, not sure the guy blew crankcase seal or not for having too much oil. Dealer tech find out the problem after draining the oil to be sure. Can't understnad BMW going with these no oil dipstick, run flat w/o spare etc...

J.Belknap 11-14-2009 02:02 PM

fyi, this alert pops up under VERY hard braking.

m5james 11-14-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2 (Post 680399)
At least there is oil dipstick on this model for owner to quick check, on all newer BMW if this happens you better not just top it off. It happened on someone E90(faulty oil level gauge), initially the Servive adisor just keep topping it off, not sure the guy blew crankcase seal or not for having too much oil. Dealer tech find out the problem after draining the oil to be sure. Can't understnad BMW going with these no oil dipstick, run flat w/o spare etc...

No dipstick...that's just stupid! Ever BMW I've owned burns at least some oil, my M5's being the worst of them all.

m5james 11-14-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 680434)
fyi, this alert pops up under VERY hard braking.

What are you doin over there J :D

ashrafkh 01-19-2010 03:25 PM

since around a week and the message "check oil eng level" kept poping up wenever i turn off the vehicle..... i didnt care much cause oil was just channged and didnt tavel mroe than 3000 on it.... i suspected that this would be a sensor problem .. till the pop up starts to show while driving,..... tghen lazy me decided to look into the oil level .... shocked!!!!!!!!! no oil at all, hardly there is some!!!!!!!! where did the oil go!!! no leacking at all anywher......!!!!!
any ideas!!!

m5james 01-20-2010 12:25 AM

Hopefully you learned to listen to the messages that it tells you instead of assuming. I don't know where it all could have gone, maybe you're just burning a larger amount of oil than most or maybe your shop mechanic is incompetent and didn't top off the oil level. I know some M5 owners who went around the same mileage as you and had the same symptoms. Nature of the beast sometimes I guess.

chilliwilli 01-20-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Belknap
fyi, this alert pops up under VERY hard braking.

Agreed...received same message under hard braking. Installed new brakes/rotors and stainless steel braided brake lines...after several attempts to bed the brakes, she gave me the message. Indy gave her a clean bill of health and haven't seen that message since.

m5james 01-20-2010 05:03 PM

I'm gonna have to try that ;)

J.Belknap 01-21-2010 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m5james (Post 680440)
What are you doin over there J :D

Driving. :)


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