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bmwboy 01-19-2009 11:09 PM

First BMW
 
Hey guys this is going to be my first bmw so i want to know what you guys think about this
its a
2001 bmw 3.0
80 000km
heated seats, heated steering wheel, black leather interior, new 20 toyo, new brakes, new starter and battery
been in a accident(would that matter)
for only $10 500 Canadian dollars

sudolg 01-19-2009 11:12 PM

Accident? Whew....I don't know. I'd be a little hesitant depending on what kind of accident. Don't jump on the first one. Research and take your time.

mrbmwx5 01-19-2009 11:14 PM

:iagree:
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Originally Posted by sudolg
Accident? Whew....I don't know. I'd be a little hesitant depending on what kind of accident. Don't jump on the first one. Research and take your time.


bmwboy 01-19-2009 11:42 PM

i thought using carfax would be a good way to check it out other then the accident what do you guys think

PersonaNonGrata 01-20-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwboy
i thought using carfax would be a good way to check it out other then the accident what do you guys think

:xoutpost:

If you are set on this one I would get a through inspection to determine what kind of body work might have been done but like others have stated, look around some more. There are surely others to choose from that have not been damaged.

ZsX5o3 01-20-2009 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwboy
i thought using carfax would be a good way to check it out other then the accident what do you guys think

I think it's an incredible deal - pending a cleared inspection. Have it taken to your local dealer and they should tell you everything that isn't perfect on the car. Then you should see the real cost of owning it.

I also wouldn't touch the 3.0 without the sport package, but that's just me.

bgsquad 01-20-2009 03:01 AM

if the chasis was involved, FORGET ABOUT IT. No matter how good it is repaired, the car will never get back it's factory balance, the chassis will never hold the ground as it did originally... even with the most accurate tools, you can't restore initial status, so they tend to compensate with allignment and suspension, but the car will be dangerous, for it will tend to oversteer and understeer, and go off line when hard braking...

if the chasis is not envolved however, then go for it, it's a great deal...

my two cents on the subject...

JCL 01-20-2009 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwboy
Hey guys this is going to be my first bmw so i want to know what you guys think about this
its a
2001 bmw 3.0
80 000km
heated seats, heated steering wheel, black leather interior, new 20 toyo, new brakes, new starter and battery
been in a accident(would that matter)
for only $10 500 Canadian dollars

The low price suggests that it likely has some issues.

Think about your maintenance budget as well as your budget for purchasing it. A vehicle of that age is going to require some work, and repairs aren't cheap. You may be better off spending a little more.

TaMbALoLoNg 01-20-2009 03:03 AM

NEVER buy a car that's been in an accident, but that's just me. There's plenty of X's out there for sale that's accident free.

hpjunkie 01-20-2009 04:00 AM

dont do it man. RESEARCH, theres plenty of X5's out there for cheap right now.

Wagner 01-20-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata
:xoutpost:

If you are set on this one I would get a through inspection to determine what kind of body work might have been done but like others have stated, look around some more. There are surely others to choose from that have not been damaged.

:iagree: :iagree:

vinuneuro 01-20-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL
The low price suggests that it likely has some issues.

Think about your maintenance budget as well as your budget for purchasing it. A vehicle of that age is going to require some work, and repairs aren't cheap. You may be better off spending a little more.

:iagree:

bmwboy 01-20-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bgsquad
if the chasis was involved, FORGET ABOUT IT. No matter how good it is repaired, the car will never get back it's factory balance, the chassis will never hold the ground as it did originally... even with the most accurate tools, you can't restore initial status, so they tend to compensate with allignment and suspension, but the car will be dangerous, for it will tend to oversteer and understeer, and go off line when hard braking...

if the chasis is not envolved however, then go for it, it's a great deal...

my two cents on the subject...

would carfax be able to tell me that?

bmwboy 01-20-2009 12:11 PM

personally i wouldn't mind if it been in an accident becasue both cars i have now have been in accidents. what are the average repair costs for you guys?

Michelle 01-20-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwboy
personally i wouldn't mind if it been in an accident becasue both cars i have now have been in accidents. what are the average repair costs for you guys?

Just hope rust doesn't occur from the previous accident.

I believe the average repair costs are $5,000 to $10,000 per year on a 2001. If the tranny fails, you can add another $8,000 to that.

TaMbALoLoNg 01-20-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwboy
personally i wouldn't mind if it been in an accident becasue both cars i have now have been in accidents. what are the average repair costs for you guys?

If you dont care if its been in an accident, then just buy it and ignore the advices here. :slap:

dsm2925 01-20-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelle
Just hope rust doesn't occur from the previous accident.

I believe the average repair costs are $5,000 to $10,000 per year on a 2001. If the tranny fails, you can add another $8,000 to that.


You joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle 01-20-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dsm2925
You joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:confused: I'm completely serious. Search around the forum.

bmwboy 01-20-2009 12:31 PM

what if i were to buy a extended warraty not from bmw from like a private company would they cover all of those repairs. also i forgot to mention it has 20 brand new tires with style 87.

dsm2925 01-20-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelle
:confused: I'm completely serious. Search around the forum.

my max was 3000 thoughout a year.. but thinking it out really good i dont drive it much and i shop around before buying thing to save $ and have my uncle do most of the work for the fraction of the real cost........ im sure taking it to the the dealer it would be a little over double of my 3k average.......... your right .. ur 100% correct.:yikes:. im sorry i didnt think it out right.... HELLO X5 BROTHERS AND SISTER OWNERS WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH US???

dsm2925 01-20-2009 12:33 PM

The bottom line is we love these machines//// As simple as that

mrbmwx5 01-20-2009 12:40 PM

:thumbup: that's it.



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Originally Posted by dsm2925
The bottom line is we love these machines//// As simple as that


dsm2925 01-20-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbmwx5
:thumbup: that's it.

amazing shifter... nice..

TaMbALoLoNg 01-20-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbmwx5
:thumbup: that's it.

Yo' where can I get that shifter like your :thumbup:

dsm2925 01-20-2009 12:54 PM

Yo' ... hehe

mrbmwx5 01-20-2009 12:58 PM

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...t-knob-x5.html

you can buy it at your local BMW


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Originally Posted by TaMbALoLoNg
Yo' where can I get that shifter like your :thumbup:


carlgo 01-20-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bgsquad
if the chasis was involved, FORGET ABOUT IT. No matter how good it is repaired, the car will never get back it's factory balance, the chassis will never hold the ground as it did originally... even with the most accurate tools, you can't restore initial status, so they tend to compensate with allignment and suspension, but the car will be dangerous, for it will tend to oversteer and understeer, and go off line when hard braking...

if the chasis is not envolved however, then go for it, it's a great deal...

my two cents on the subject...

That was true at one time, but technology marches on. Modern frame machines, measuring devices, computerized spot welders, etc. are totally accurate.

BMW and Mercedes have very strict requirements for authorized body shops. Tooling up with their specified European (mostly) equipment is very expensive, as are the training requirements for the techs. The repair procedures are quite involved and in the end most damaged chassis parts are replaced, not just heated up and pulled out (illegal now because of high-strength steels) like in days of yore.

If the repairs were done in a BMW authorized shop, then it is unlikely that you would have any problems with the chassis, etc.

So, it is understandable that anyone would be nervous about buying a car that had suffered heavy damage, especially when undamaged ones are available. But, if the deal is really good and the repairs were done in a BMW authorized shop, then check it out good, drive it carefully and maybe it is a good choice.

BTW, a good check is to have the alignment done. If it can't be aligned, then forget it. If it can be aligned perfectly, then likely it is good.

bmwboy 01-20-2009 11:24 PM

ok so other than that what do you guys think about this one
2004 bmw 4.4
61000km
says its fully loaded don't know about nav
park assist
for $32000 canadian

BMWLOVER 01-20-2009 11:39 PM

Seems good. Go check it out if you live near them or if you can call them and ask. You could get aftermarket nav if it doesn't have one. Plus that's the price dealer has set and there is still moving space. You could bring them down to 29000 or lower probably.

BMWLOVER 01-20-2009 11:45 PM

Here's another one I found if your interested in 3.0i. http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...dmontonalberta

It has warranty until 2010 I believe or 80,000km which ever occurs first.

bgsquad 01-21-2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

That was true at one time, but technology marches on. Modern frame machines, measuring devices, computerized spot welders, etc. are totally accurate.

BMW and Mercedes have very strict requirements for authorized body shops. Tooling up with their specified European (mostly) equipment is very expensive, as are the training requirements for the techs. The repair procedures are quite involved and in the end most damaged chassis parts are replaced, not just heated up and pulled out (illegal now because of high-strength steels) like in days of yore.

If the repairs were done in a BMW authorized shop, then it is unlikely that you would have any problems with the chassis, etc.

So, it is understandable that anyone would be nervous about buying a car that had suffered heavy damage, especially when undamaged ones are available. But, if the deal is really good and the repairs were done in a BMW authorized shop, then check it out good, drive it carefully and maybe it is a good choice.

BTW, a good check is to have the alignment done. If it can't be aligned, then forget it. If it can be aligned perfectly, then likely it is good.
Thanks Carlgo for the info. But I am still afraid that since the people want to sell the car, They must have had the work done at a less expensive frame "puller" rather BMW authorized shop...

So I still think, why take the risk?

bmwboy, about the carfax, yes, they mention all kind of damages including frame, airbags, etc...


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