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Icer006 02-03-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by carlgo
The obvious answer is that it can only be adjusted so far unless someone does make a kit for it.

As far as the tire wear is concerned, make sure the alignment people also know how to do the toe in relation to the camber. It gets complex and I know for sure that a lot of people doing alignments do not understand the relationship or the procedure. It could be the toe that is causing much of the wear.

Also, you gotta do the fronts at the same time. It is all symbiotic.

Often the best alignment shops are independent, family-owned shops that have been around for a long time. You could also beg the dealer's service manager to please, please put the best tech on your job.

You might ask other luxury and exotic car dealers who they use. Many do not have an in-house alignment person and sublet it.

The Germans have never been shy about the camber look!

Agreed... especially the last sentence.

sudolg 02-03-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by zerochief
I keep my camber factory and do not have tire wear issues.

My last set rolled 25k miles ... Good enough for me.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...592AGAIN01.jpg

I have an 05, 33K miles with original tires with plenty of tread left on all 4. I don't see any tire wear issues.

cobra94563 02-03-2009 12:10 PM

I have 34k; no wear issues, but I just got the car and neg camber is noticable.
I would go to more neutral camber if there are uneven wear. Is anyone having wear problems or is it just visual?

TwinsPoppa 02-03-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cobra94563
I have 34k; no wear issues, but I just got the car and neg camber is noticable.
I would go to more neutral camber if there are uneven wear. Is anyone having wear problems or is it just visual?

That's just it. Some are experiencing problems with the stock camber settings and some are not.

To me, what somebody said previously makes sense.

If you're experiencing problems with the stock settings, then something else must be off. Probably worn suspension parts. I doubt BMW would design excessive tire wear for the X.

I assume any negative camber will wear the insides more but not too bad where the tire is useless after 10K miles.

I guess if most of your driving was aggressive, straight line stopping and accelarating you could induce some unwanted tire wear - but I don't think that any one realistically drives like that.

I had my mechanic take out as much as he could (I think it ended up as -1.8 or something) because I don't plan on doing much hard driving and I don't need every ounce of performance from the X.

TwinsPoppa 02-03-2009 01:16 PM

Hey Zero ... everytime I see your X it makes me wanna get that Intrax module. Your X looks geat! :thumbup:

BTW ... are those CCFL AEs?


Quote:

Originally Posted by zerochief
I keep my camber factory and do not have tire wear issues.

My last set rolled 25k miles ... Good enough for me.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...592AGAIN01.jpg


zerochief 02-03-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa
Hey Zero ... everytime I see your X it makes me wanna get that Intrax module. Your X looks geat! :thumbup:

BTW ... are those CCFL AEs?

Thanks Twinspoppa. The Intrax module is pricey but sure is cool. Luckily I was able to purchase it from a member here who sold their 4.8is. Yes the AE's are CCFL's. Pretty bright even in the sun.

omodos 03-06-2009 11:35 AM

I had mine taken out, saw the guy doing it when he put it on the ramp, didnt get it to zero as he was concerned, but I insisted he take out as much as possible, as high speed cornering was not my top priority! so no need for so much camber.

One of those things, and to be frank I dont think all e53 x5s can have bush issues?every single one I see parked I check (wife thinks I am mad)and their rear wheel profile is as if you have stuffed and elepahnt in the back making them slope inwards at the top from excess weight, and come to think of it I will put up a new thread asking e53 owners to send photos most will be the same

fast4d 03-06-2009 01:36 PM

if your vehicle is not lowered you should be about to get almost zero camber. goto a competent alignment shop. we had ours aligned and now the rear tires wear evenly all the way across.

dkl 03-06-2009 01:42 PM

As you dialed out camber, make sure your toe are still straight as they both go hand in hand. People often don't pay attention to toe issue because it's harder to spot (seen to the naked eye) than camber. But having a toe out issue (no matter how minute it may be) will kill your rear tires MUCH faster than negative camber! My first set of tires wore excessively on the inside and I too, thought it was the -2 degree camber that killed it. But as it turns out, my rear toe setting was only 0.5 degree toe-out. After having that zeroed out with the camber left alone at -2 degree, my second set of tires wore very evenly.

dkl 03-06-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fast4d
if your vehicle is not lowered you should be about to get almost zero camber. goto a competent alignment shop. we had ours aligned and now the rear tires wear evenly all the way across.

Not true...the default setup on the X5 is -1.5 to -2.0 degree camber unloaded. You could probably get it dialed to 0, but as I've said in my previous post, camber is not your main enemy.

I can't stand that everyone keeps thinking that the camber setup on the X5 is for high speed cornering prowess alone. Sure, it's one of the benefit, but the fact of the matter, it's also a safety setup. I know that I don't often do high speed cornering, but I would like to know that the X5 would behave properly in an emergency manuever that won't flip the vehicle...and NOBODY can predict what that emergency manuever may be or at what speed! So WHY in the world would anyone wants to mess with a tested OEM setup is beyond me :dunno: Is your life not worth the extra set or two of tires?


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