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Thom 02-23-2009 11:30 AM

Hot rear rotors ?
 
Hi all.
I replaced my pads about 8 months ago on the rear. Now my rear rotors are getting very hot (cant keep your finger on them). The fronts are warm only.
I took the pads out and applied new anti seize and reinstalled them...same thing. After a short drive both rear rotors are hot. I backed off the parking brake shoes and its still hot !!!???
If the master cylinder fluid is low on the front resevoir will the backs come on first ?
Can two calipers seize at the same time. ?
Thanks for any help.

01 BMW_X5 02-23-2009 12:09 PM

I would 1st check if it is the parking brake or the brake pads causing the disc to heat up.
Could be caused by brake master cylinder. <<I am leaning towards this.
Also if the vent bore in the expansion tank is blocked .
Hand brake cables.
Corroded floating calipers.

fast4d 02-23-2009 12:10 PM

jack the rear off the ground and put trans in neutral. can you turn wheels by hand?

when you took pads off can you easily retract the caliper pistons back into the bore?

nra0707 02-23-2009 12:25 PM

If water gets into the lines or condensations seeps through the caliper piston seals, it can corrode the piston to the point where it seizes it. I've had this happen on my other BMW. It might also indicate that it's time to flush and replace brake fluid in the lines.

Thom 02-23-2009 01:59 PM

What are the odds of both rear calipers going (or starting to go) at once ?

mrkbbd 02-23-2009 02:12 PM

You do realize brakes are supposed to get hot, very hot, that's how they stop the car by converting movement into heat...that being said you have to remember the rear brakes are smaller than the fronts, have a poorer cooling system, and have more rotating mass (the larger rear tires as compared to the fronts), which all translate into higher temps

01 BMW_X5 02-23-2009 02:14 PM

Slim. But, I have seen strange things happen. Corrosion in your climate may quickly affect them.
Get the rear of the X in the air like another member said and start from there.

Thom 02-23-2009 03:44 PM

Thanks for the ideas. So, before I spend the $...how hot is hot ?
I know the rear rotors are solid metal (vs fronts that are "vented"). But how hot should they be ?
If I drive around in traffic, the fronts are warm but the backs you cant touch. There is no burning smell.

mrkbbd 02-23-2009 03:54 PM

If you've been using them in traffic, they should cause 3rd degree burns when you touch them

mrkbbd 02-23-2009 03:55 PM

think about this, if you've ever washed your car / rims after you've driven it and get water on the rotors, it instantly turns to steam, that means they are significantly hotter than 212 degrees

Thom 02-23-2009 04:17 PM

Ok I agree but are they back rotors suppossed to be hotter than the front ? They are equally hot on either side.

mrkbbd 02-23-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom
Ok I agree but are they back rotors suppossed to be hotter than the front ? They are equally hot on either side.

If they have an inferior cooling system, which they do, than they are going to stay hotter, longer than the fronts, in addition, there is less surface area (so more of the braking force is concentrated on a smaller area = more friction necessary for same stopping power = more heat) the rear tires are larger and heavier than the front = more stopping power to get them to stop rotating as compared to the front = more heat (I'm aware that most stopping power comes from the fronts)...this is why on a couple of the AMG benz's that don't have vented rear brakes, actually have larger rear brakes than fronts.

X5 Meister 02-23-2009 09:53 PM

What car do you have? The N62 4.4i all had vented rear rotors. It was the M62's that had solid rears. Also all the 3.0L X5's had solid rotors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom
Thanks for the ideas. So, before I spend the $...how hot is hot ?
I know the rear rotors are solid metal (vs fronts that are "vented"). But how hot should they be ?
If I drive around in traffic, the fronts are warm but the backs you cant touch. There is no burning smell.


Thom 02-27-2009 01:31 PM

A 2002 3.0L.


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