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lulobster 02-24-2009 08:41 PM

PISSSSSSSSED!
 
So i got my car inpounded FINE FINE i didnt pay some stupid tickets i was trying to fight for parking. WHATEVER over that and paid.

picked it up today and they F*(&ED up the car. Front bumpber torn off. there was OIL everywhere driping and coming out of the oil filter. Coolant EVERWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!! and my power steering is MESSED UP!!!!

i was pissed, call insurance, called the cops, took it to the mech shop and their taking care of it. the inpound lot KNOWS they messed it up and confessed. they didnt want me to call my insur company or the COPS! they said buddy it will take forever. take it to my mech. i said NO WAY! i do it the legit and legal way sorry!. they gave me a claim form which i sent to my insur company. if they even TRY TO deny the claim im going to kill someone. this is so stupid.
=(

and the car just isnt running right, it sounds rough =(

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this is what i get for not paying tickets? f that, treat cars with respect!

TwinsPoppa 02-24-2009 08:49 PM

Sorry to hear ... I'd be erupting too! :angryfire

I wonder if they F'ed up your tranny/driveline. Did they just tow it or put it on a flatbed? Either way I would think they need to move the X with those tire/wheel dolleys to avoid damaging the driveline.

FSETH 02-24-2009 08:50 PM

That sucks, but like you said, you should have paid the tickets. You never want to get your car towed to an impound lot. They don't give a sh!t about your car.

N S 02-24-2009 09:04 PM

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The fact you got several parking tickets to begin with, allowed them to become delinquent to the point where your vehicle was impounded all paired with your ability to put together such an eloquent statement lead me to.........ah, never mind, I'll leave it at that.

Sorry to hear about your self created troubles.

JCL 02-24-2009 09:06 PM

+1

Self inflicted. I am still sorry to hear about it.

X5 Meister 02-24-2009 09:11 PM

Sucks. Where was it parked when they towed it? I'm surprised they just didn't stick a boot on it. Any idea how they managed to screw it up so bad? Also, how long was it at the impound yard before you picked it up?

meandmyX 02-24-2009 09:26 PM

the fact that he didnt pay his tickets DOES NOT give them the right to F*CK it up, i had a something like that (no way near the extent of damage) i had forgot to move my car for the street sweeper on a small one way street and you can park on both sides right, come out and my sideview mirror was SMASHED (not on the X but my last car 98tahoe), i bit my tongue cause 1. i cant prove it and 2. i shouldnt of been parked there to begin with

sorry about your loss man

primetime 02-24-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meandmyX
the fact that he didnt pay his tickets DOES NOT give them the right to F*CK it up,

:iagree: ...He may have been delinquent on his tickets.. But that doesn't mean anything that happens after getting it towed to an impound is fair game..Thats just not right..There's no way in hell he should accept this...He's doin the right thing about how he's taking care of the situation now with insurance etc.

primetime 02-24-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N S
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The fact you got several parking tickets to begin with, allowed them to become delinquent to the point where your vehicle was impounded all paired with your ability to put together such an eloquent statement lead me to.........ah, never mind, I'll leave it at that.

Sorry to hear about your self created troubles.

Self created problems was the car being towed to an impound for not paying tickets. Thats where it should end..not where it begins. The fact that they damaged his vehicle to a large extent or any extent is unnacceptable. So they should just get a free pass for fcking up his car because "he forgot to pay his tickets?!!" Give me a break buddy...:rolleyes:

Weasel 02-24-2009 10:02 PM

I'd have it brought to the dealer for the insurance estimate, indy's don't always know everything to look for for the created damage. Could have drivetrain damage, could have bent suspension components, etc.

butundo 02-24-2009 10:50 PM

With what the dealer charges for repairs, and the amount of damage, I would think that it is close to being totaled. Most likely they didn't use a flat bed, so there goes the tranny. Oil, antifreeze and power steering issues, damn. I would make their insurance pay.

Also, since there is oil and coolant everywhere and the front bumper off, how did you know that it wasn't running right? Did you actually try to drive it in this condition? If so, there goes the engine as well.

cavx5 02-24-2009 10:58 PM

those tow guys in nyc are animals...they just hook it with a regular tow truck sometimes not even with a wheel lift type and just drag it away..being the x is an awd tranny thats how come the tranny got all f@@@ed up..those guys are savages..one time when i was in manhattan i saw a car being towed sideways with because the tow guy hooked the rear and the front wheels were turned to one side...rob

rastaFarai 02-24-2009 11:06 PM

i don't understand how ppl can say it's his fault. its not your fault for all the damage they did. That's complete BS. I admit you should not neglect tickets because procrastination is a mutha****

hope you get what you need.

X5 Meister 02-24-2009 11:08 PM

Yes NYC blows as far as that's concerned. I'd say the VAST majority of the time I've seen tow trucks, they were not flat beds. As far as causing his own problems go, well his problem was not paying his tickets. The punishment for that is a fine or towed car, NOT a destroyed car.

Here is a case to make my point. Cars can typically be parked for a week without having to move. However, some UN event was going to take place in one neighborhood and so the cops posted signs on Monday on the posts regarding parking restrictions for the event to be held on Wednesday. Typically you could park in that area until Friday. So if you parked your car there last Friday, you would normally expect not to have to move it until the following Friday. However, event was on Wednesday. They towed all the cars on Wednesday and I watched as some got bumped, pulled, scraped, etc. It was a total f-ing joke. I asked one of the cops about the situation and his only reply was .. see the signs posted. Great. So do those owner's deserve destroyed cars?

FSETH 02-24-2009 11:22 PM

At the end of the day, it is the OP's fault the car got towed. I hate it for him. It does suck, but you have to realize that this is the sort of crap that can happen when you put your vehicle in the situation of being towed. It is common knowledge that a lot of tow companies don't care about the cars that are being towed in this manor. They just hook them as fast as possible and drive away without caring of the stresses it puts on your vehicle. It isn't necessarily right, but very common and could have been avoided by paying the tickets. Whay take the chance of letting your car get towed in the first place?

I care about all of my cars to the point where I would pay the tickets because I would be afraid that something like this could happen.

lulobster 02-24-2009 11:47 PM

well thanks guys. it is my fault to an extent. getting a ticket for expired meter that was at 9:59pm. when the meter is off at 10pm. 1 min off for 65$. piece of ISH! NYC. this is another reason im LEAVING nyc. florida has ticket for 15 $, 35$. these are all fine. for stupid things. double parking in nyc, 165!??!? what a crock of ish. im done complaining thou, soon nyc will be behind me!

how do i know if the drivetrain is messed up? how do i point it out the mech and the insur company?

bmwbmwuser 02-24-2009 11:58 PM

Do your research and find out how to file a claim against your city. Good luck.

This link might be helpful:

http://www.comptroller.nyc.gov/burea...mage_claim.pdf

X5 Meister 02-25-2009 12:44 AM

Take it to the dealer for a thorough inspection or a shop that the dealer recommends/works with.

JCL 02-25-2009 12:50 AM

Seems to be some over-reaction here. Lots of emotion. I know you guys hate tow truck drivers, but as an ex tow truck driver, give us a break. We aren't all animals. I used slings, and wheel lifts, as appropriate. I used dollies when necessary. I used a trailer for special vehicles that required it (we didn't have a flatdeck). The company paid for any damage to a vehicle that I did. I don't recall them paying on my behalf, but it might have happened, not sure, it was years ago.

The shop I worked at didn't have an impound lot, and we tried to avoid any situation that involved impounding the vehicle. I recall locking at least one inside the shop after it was involved in an accident, at the request of the RCMP.

I said above that it was self-inflicted. I also said that I felt bad for the poster. The fact is, as FSETH said, none of this would have happened if the tickets hadn't been delinquent. (Was it ticket, or tickets?) No, he doesn't deserve this. But he might have expected that there was a chance it could have happened, given all the stories relayed above. Seems to be common knowledge in NYC.

First step is to find out what the damage is. All the discussion about driveline damage is premature. We don't know what year the X is because it isn't in the OP's profile. If it isn't a 2004 or later (x drive) then flat towing or wheel lift on one end was endorsed by BMW. The manual states "Transmission selector in N, maximum 45 mph for a maximum of 95 miles" with the wheels turning. There is no need to use a flatdeck, although it is a nice idea if you are paying and want to front the extra premium for a specialty tow. All that said, without a key it is difficult to put it in N (unless you disconnect the shifter). So, it is more likely that the tow truck driver used a dolly because that is faster, and what the tow truck driver really wants to do is leave before the owner comes back and creates a confrontation. (I can imagine how this one would have gone, lol)

If they used a sling to lift it, that could have pulled the bumper off. However, it sounds more like the rad is damaged (fluid leaks) so that sounds more like a frontal impact to me. Perhaps they picked it up at the rear with a wheel lift, and backed it into a wall or another vehicle due to carelessness. If so, the damage is exactly the same as if a car reversed into it while it was parked, and it just as easily could have happened while it was parked.

Yes, it is unfortunate, but let's keep it in perspective. My nickel's up, as MD would say.

N S 02-25-2009 01:05 AM

I don't think anybody is arguing that he deserved to have his car abused, or that the tow company/impound lot isn't at fault for the damage they caused.

The point is the entire situation was easily avoidable.

Sh!t, even in his last post he states that a $165 ticket for double parking in NYC is outrageous, but that the $15, $35, and $50 tickets in Florida are acceptable. Why is any ticket that is easily avoidable "acceptable".

rastaFarai 02-25-2009 01:12 AM

Personally - I HATE ppl that double park in NY. Mostly when they double park right beside an open space where they can pull over. Happens all the time- you're better off parking by a hydrant if you're not going to take long than double parking.

Agree it was avoidable but garage shouldn't F up your vehicle. Either way thanks for the lesson. I'm paying tickets on the spot from my mobile. LOL.

X5 Meister 02-25-2009 01:15 AM

JCL, how did I know that the next comment after mine would be yours! If you change your name to Javert, I'll change mine to 24601.

X5 Meister 02-25-2009 01:17 AM

Don't even get me started about people double parking. Frankly I think no street in NYC should be allowed to have cars parked on BOTH sides of it at the same time. If that simple rule could get passed, traffic would move so much better throughout the entire city.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaFarai
Personally - I HATE ppl that double park in NY. Mostly when they double park right beside an open space where they can pull over. Happens all the time- you're better off parking by a hydrant if you're not going to take long than double parking.

Agree it was avoidable but garage shouldn't F up your vehicle. Either way thanks for the lesson. I'm paying tickets on the spot from my mobile. LOL.


X5rolls 02-25-2009 07:47 AM

How many tickets over what period of time and how many dollars + penalties for being late are we talking about? Oh, and sorry for your damage - it sucks.

sam48is 02-25-2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primetime
Self created problems was the car being towed to an impound for not paying tickets. Thats where it should end..not where it begins. The fact that they damaged his vehicle to a large extent or any extent is unnacceptable. So they should just get a free pass for fcking up his car because "he forgot to pay his tickets?!!" Give me a break buddy...:rolleyes:

100% agreed.

I sincerely hope the car gets all fixed up as good as new.

Good luck dude.

TaMbALoLoNg 02-25-2009 11:49 AM

Another hard lesson learned. Move on and dont put your X in unneccessary risks.

Mr.Black 02-25-2009 12:45 PM

:( Sorry to hear about it , probably been said but it sounds like they just tow'd it from the front tires, leading to the tow arms (etc. ) pulling the front parts off the car, and probably damaging the drivetrain, I can't tell you how many times I've seen some tow trucks just lower his equipment back up and emidiatetly drive off with car regarless off it make and shape(complete BS)
...only thing thats wierd is you still could drive it so :dunno:


...and to peoples points about self inflincted damage, so if your saying its ok to damage someones car because of unpaid parking ticket, should it be ok for police to beat the sh!t out of someone that has unpaid speeding tickets or a bench warrant?

FSETH 02-25-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Black

...and to peoples points about self inflincted damage, so if your saying its ok to damage someones car because of unpaid parking ticket, should it be ok for police to beat the sh!t out of someone that has unpaid speeding tickets or a bench warrant?

No that is not OK and neither is what happend to the OP's X, but don't put your car in other peoples hands who are notoriois for treating cars like sh!t.

Pay the ticket and this won't happen for sure. Don't pay it and take the chance of this happening. That is just how the world works.

People need to be aware of their actions and what consequences they may bring. Try not to put yourself or your car in harms way. By not paying the tickets the OP should have known that the car may get towed and he should have also thought about the fact that not all towing companies will baby your car like you do and sometimes sh!t happens when people of this nature handle your vehicle. It is simple, really.

Mr.Black 02-25-2009 01:02 PM

ha, FSETH yea I know exactually what you mean,... "in a perfect world" ........right and wrong don't always translate into reality and we must self adjust, I get what your saying completely

youry 02-25-2009 01:20 PM

All of this for one $65 ticket? Amazing

X5rolls 02-25-2009 01:56 PM

It's not clear how many tickets over what period of time they were overdue and how much $ was involved.

"i didnt pay some stupid tickets i was trying to fight for parking"


Quote:

Originally Posted by youry
All of this for one $65 ticket? Amazing


JCL 02-26-2009 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister
JCL, how did I know that the next comment after mine would be yours! If you change your name to Javert, I'll change mine to 24601.

Well, I get the fact that Javert was a character in Les Miserables, and I looked up 24601 to see that it is the convict number in the book. Beyond that, you lost me. Didn't see your response, I was typing when you posted it.

sleepless 02-26-2009 11:04 AM

NYC is the worst place to get UR veh. towed :throw:..... they treat UR veh. like dirt..... never mind the $$$ towing fee, U will be lucky to get UR veh. w/o a single scratch...... also its takes like 3 frickin hrs. to get UR veh. back.... they should just put a boot, this way it minimize any damage to UR the veh....

bmdubbs 02-26-2009 11:28 AM

damage of private property in any way is wronge. my five series got writen off in the parking lot at work on thursday last week not my fault but i still get screwed because it was a good car and just did 1300.00 in repairs to the motor and other small stuff so i feel bad for you man


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