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mfrymier 10-07-2005 10:30 AM

New Transmission Software = AWESOME!!!
 
Had the "newest" (will try to find out which version) Software installed last week into my '04 4.4i (valvetronic).

What a difference! The much-talked about hesitation from a stop is gone, as is the mysterious "phantom rear ending" type sound/jerk when accelerating on a steep hill. The thing just seems smoother to me through the entire torque curve. I'm no expert but it sure feels better.

Just an FYI for those of you with '04 and '05's. SF BMW told me this software was coming pre-installed on '06's.

bozo 10-07-2005 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfrymier
...the mysterious "phantom rear ending" type sound/jerk when accelerating.

OMG, Im not imagining things!! Twice and counting. But ONLY when I stop. Once I press the brakes, it does this little "jerk" and I look in my rear view to see if the person hit me or not!...One question, how much $$$?

statdoc 10-07-2005 10:44 AM

My X5 is a 05/05 build. I wonder if I have the latest tranny software? How can I find out?

SiLvX5 10-07-2005 10:47 AM

is the programming free at the dealer? :dunno:

Thunder22 10-07-2005 10:47 AM

mfrymier - do you have any more details on this? I'ld like to call my dealer and see if they can do this, but i'ld rather not call them up blind and say "hey i read on a message board that... blah blah" .

Thanks

rayxi 10-07-2005 12:18 PM

Is there a TSB on this we can reference when we call the dealer?

eguillem 10-07-2005 01:02 PM

Great news!!
 
I've bought my X5 3.0D 3 weeks ago and I am soooo happy with it. But there is this issue about hessitation on a STOP. I was so worried about it until I read your post. Thanks a lot on the info and as soon as you know more details please post them here.

Best regards to all from Spain :-)

vinuneuro 10-07-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bozo5521
OMG, Im not imagining things!! Twice and counting. But ONLY when I stop. Once I press the brakes, it does this little "jerk" and I look in my rear view to see if the person hit me or not!...One question, how much $$$?

Warranty takes care of that :) .

klerk 10-07-2005 02:05 PM

would be there be any benifit for me to take my 2004 X5 3.0 in for the update?

no real issues with tranny, but would it possibly improve mileage or make things shift smoother? is newer better?

AlpineMsix 10-07-2005 02:20 PM

For what year car is it? I have a 2005 4.8is that i got about 6months ago.

Guss 10-07-2005 05:56 PM

I would sure like to know also if it applies to the 4.8 as it would be cheaper than having to get the DINAN s/w.

mfrymier 10-07-2005 06:20 PM

answers (some at least)
 
Some answers to the above questions.

1) This transmission software is specific to the 4.4i "valvetronic" engines (first released for MY 2004). Apparently they struggled with different updates to the software, and only recently "got it right";

2) The software fixed two "known issues" that I'm aware of
a) "smoothed" acceleration from a stop, in my case virtually eliminating the hesitation that many experienced (including me) with the "new" 4.4's

b) fixed the "sudden clunk" that commonly happened when acellerating on a steep incline, especially if one had released the accellerator and then re-accellerated (if that makes any sense).

3) The software was installed/updated at no charge under warranty

I will check on my service receipt to see if they have a software version # denoted.

Trust me, it's worth it!

X5Jay 10-10-2005 01:20 PM

mfrymier - any more info on this? Will you call your dealer for us and let us know exactly what to ask for? Pretty please? TIA!

Thunder22 10-10-2005 01:31 PM

a TSB # would be much appreciated.

SNaray8442 10-10-2005 03:31 PM

I'm going in for service Wednesday (my birthday yay) and I'm gonna ask for this. This will be the best birthday present if it is really effective like you guys say.

Thunder22 10-16-2005 04:43 PM

any update on this?

steveo 10-16-2005 05:40 PM

i complained about hesitation at about 1900-2600 rpm 90km-110km...they did an update of egine programming or something, and nothing changed, so i have an nappointment to take a guy for a drive from bmw tomm. to show him the hesitation....they also cannot seem to fix my folding mirrors, replaced stuff, been there 3x..but still dont wrk properly., they are alsom waiting to hear back from bmw about painting, as my front bumper effect is loose, so they replaced it but it needs to be painted, also clear coat coming off on the side/inside of my hood along the paint line. So bmw here is waiting to hear back from bmw on those issues and eginerring re; my mirrors.

ricky.agrawal 10-16-2005 10:18 PM

Put me down as another anxious for more information on this!

jaba 10-19-2005 11:00 PM

WOW. Big change. Definitely feel the difference. Brought the X to the dealership for an oil change and tranny software update at 16k miles. No more hesistation at all. Seems the car just got reenergized with the new oil, it's running so much better and smoother now. :thumbup: :D

Definitely worth the time having it brought in. Plus they offered me a free car wash too. And the best part is they gave me an x3 loaner with 58 miles!!!! :wow: Literally brand new. Although it was a 2.5 litre, it had quite of a punch for a small engine. I must say, although I don't like the outside looks of the x3, it runs like a great bimmer should be. Still, it's a far cry from the X5. Glad it was fixed in a day

Service was for free and definitely worth it. Everyone else who's experiencing this problem should bring it to the stealer. The service administrator somehow knew what I was talking about (since he had an x5 too) and got the problem solved quickly. :thumbup: Hope things turn out the same for you guys when you have your x's brought in.

mfrymier 10-21-2005 08:08 PM

Sorry about the delay guys
 
I'm still trying to track down a "software version" for the tranny software. My wife is convinced I somehow bought a whole new car the thing is so much better.....I'm supposed to go back in this week and will try to get the version ##.

rayxi 10-21-2005 08:47 PM

My work orders at the dealer always reference a TSB whenever it's applicable. Can you check yours please? TIA

Zeke013 10-22-2005 05:26 PM

Please keep us up to date if you find out the software version #. I'd LOVE to get my 4.8 updated!

Quicksilver 10-22-2005 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfrymier
Had the "newest" (will try to find out which version) Software installed last week into my '04 4.4i (valvetronic).

What a difference! The much-talked about hesitation from a stop is gone, as is the mysterious "phantom rear ending" type sound/jerk when accelerating on a steep hill. The thing just seems smoother to me through the entire torque curve. I'm no expert but it sure feels better.

Just an FYI for those of you with '04 and '05's. SF BMW told me this software was coming pre-installed on '06's.

Still waiting for that software version #

Phils 10-23-2005 03:38 PM

Updated too
 
I had my '04 4.4 in to have a mirror replaced and complained of downshifts on downhills when in 'D' as well as a rough start with Check Engine light last wekk.
They updated the Trans S/W and the Engine Management S/W- nice difference on the trans here as well- much smoother.

yjansen 10-23-2005 07:57 PM

Would the update apply to 3.0d tranny sofware too?

jaba 10-24-2005 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yjansen
Would the update apply to 3.0d tranny sofware too?

I don't see why not.. or maybe it has it's own version

Jackay 10-25-2005 11:45 AM

Hmm...trans software sounds like a good deal. Very interested!

Is it possible, if I just go down to the dealers and say I want a update on trannys? Cause my X is currently down at the shops anyway, but unsure if I need an actual software version#.

E61Silver 10-25-2005 12:54 PM

When Did this version become installed by BMW
 
I think someone allready asked (with no answer), when did BMW include this software for the factory?

I don't get this Forum, you guy's go on and on about silly things but can't answer a simple question. :mad:

statdoc 10-25-2005 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x54.4blue
I think someone allready asked (with no answer), when did BMW include this software for the factory?

I don't get this Forum, you guy's go on and on about silly things but can't answer a simple question. :mad:

If we don't know, we can't answer, can we?

And, yeah, have a nice day to you, too.

E61Silver 10-25-2005 03:01 PM

I have July 2005 X5
 
Does it need the upgrade? :rofl:

jaba 10-25-2005 07:44 PM

I tried calling my stealer but they couldn't help me with the software version for the tranny, I guess the only one who knows the software are the technicians in the dealership working on the computers:

Anywho I'll just write down exactly what is written on my invoice if it helps.

A. (oil change part)


B. CUST STATES THAT TRANSMISSION WHEN COMING TO
A STOP VEHICLE TENDS TO JERK OR LUNDGE
FORWARD LIKE HE JUST GOT REAR ENDED CK
AND ADVISE

CAUSE: E
2499 REPROGRAMMED EGS TRANSMISSION
CONTROL UNIT. . . . .
66 WX94 0.00

----------------------------------------------------------

maybe the 66 wx94 corresponds to something. Hope this helps. :)

AlpineMsix 10-26-2005 12:21 AM

they need to make something like this for the 4.8

Jackay 10-26-2005 10:33 AM

My car was in the shop during entire last week, till today. Just got the car back. Which had quite a few job, that needed done.

Well, dealers actually just upgraded the software, while the car was in the shop! haha! And I didnt even have to tell them about it. Apparently they thought that transmission shuddering at time, and just went on and upgraded the software :)

My guess is, simply ring them up and say you heard about it, and want to do a reprogram on the transmission. Might be just as simple as that :)

x5user 10-26-2005 10:46 AM

Upgraded the software and changed nothing. :(

jaba 10-26-2005 02:57 PM

As mfrymier, the software reprogram update i guess is specific for the 4.4i. For the 4.8's and 3.0's that experience the same problems we have, you may or may not have an update for your tranny. I suggest the best thing to do, is bring it to the stealer, be specific about your complaints that may have to do with the tranny and have them list each one in the invoice/printout to help out the technicians working the computers and who knows, there might be some update to it. :)

MogulB 11-11-2005 02:00 PM

I just had my transmission software updated this week on my '05 X5 and, wow, what a difference :thumbup: Definitely more responsive in terms of shifting points and holding time in gear. Also, I haven't experienced that head-jerking "slam" coming out of a rolling stop that I've had to endure on occasion since the upgrade either. So far, so good http://www.xoutpost.com/newreply.php?...ote=1&p=55032# :rofl:

E61Silver 11-12-2005 12:53 PM

When Cold
 
My 2005 4.4 jerks when cold, thinks transupdate will fix it?

Bmwtvboy 11-16-2005 03:18 PM

Hey,
Good luck with the fix it software. I have an earlier model
X5 3.0,01. Love drives like a monster.
So where do you hail from in Spain? I am planning a trip
in the spring and can't wait to drive the backroads of Spain.
Any favorite places to drive? Unfortunately I can only find
Mercedes convertibles for exotic rental. No beammers.
J

Bigfoot 11-17-2005 01:09 AM

I hope you appreciate my post count sacrifice here
 
There is a SIB dated May 2005 concerning the aggressive downshift clunk that causes the sensation of being "rear ended".

The last episode in my X5 was so forceful, I thought the lady in the minivan must have hit me so I memorized her front plate number just in case. Needless to say, she never touched my butt. :spank:

If anybody still experiences the aggressive downshift clunk, you should explain what is wrong to your service advisor and request the GKE software update per SM 24-202-05.

They should then check the software number for the DME. If it does not match the SM, the DME will need to be programmed with the latest software version.

Since I am a professional lurker, I cannot answer any questions about this update because my post total would increase and I could lose my lurker status. Good luck and goodnight.

:beerchug:
Bigfoot

phil47 12-07-2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MogulB
I just had my transmission software updated this week on my '05 X5 and, wow, what a difference :thumbup: Definitely more responsive in terms of shifting points and holding time in gear. Also, I haven't experienced that head-jerking "slam" coming out of a rolling stop that I've had to endure on occasion since the upgrade either. So far, so good http://www.xoutpost.com/newreply.php?...ote=1&p=55032# :rofl:

I hope I see the same benefit. My dealer just phoned me to confirm they have reprogrammed the shift control module with v23 which is the newest software for my '05 X5 (March 05 build). I'll be able to tell immediately if it has fixed the tranny slam issue (I've had passengers yell thinking I was just rear-ended...VERY annoying). Keeping my fingers crossed...

noncom23 12-07-2006 06:02 PM

Oh yeah. Got it in mine. Helped with everything!:thumbup:

Boston X5 4.4 12-08-2006 11:17 AM

Got the EGS reprogrammed in mine about a year ago and have not had any problems since.
At that time the SIB for reprogramming the EGS was # 24-01-06

phil47 12-08-2006 02:20 PM

Drove home from the dealer yesterday and in to work this morning....wow...I can certainly feel the difference. No more of that quick downshifting (jerking) right before a stop, quicker pickup off the line, and most importantly it doesn't slam the transmission when slowing to a (almost) rolling stop and then getting on the throttle again. In fact, I also noticed that it doesn't downshift as aggressively when you apply brakes on a steep decent. I take the same steep hill on my way to work and the X5 behaved exactly the same way every time...except for today.

Overall VERY pleased...so far.:thumbup:

CGSTL 12-10-2006 10:08 AM

Which upgrade did you get? Can you post what is written on your service ticket?

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil47
Drove home from the dealer yesterday and in to work this morning....wow...I can certainly feel the difference. No more of that quick downshifting (jerking) right before a stop, quicker pickup off the line, and most importantly it doesn't slam the transmission when slowing to a (almost) rolling stop and then getting on the throttle again. In fact, I also noticed that it doesn't downshift as aggressively when you apply brakes on a steep decent. I take the same steep hill on my way to work and the X5 behaved exactly the same way every time...except for today.

Overall VERY pleased...so far.:thumbup:


noncom23 12-10-2006 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGSTL
Which upgrade did you get? Can you post what is written on your service ticket?

Last one is v.23.

thebluedog 12-10-2006 12:26 PM

Does anyone know if this software applies to 3.0's?

cue03 12-10-2006 12:33 PM

Would be great if something like this was available for the 4.8is

mine is smooth but could always be smoother.

noncom23 12-10-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluedog
Does anyone know if this software applies to 3.0's?

Might have to call the stlr on that one.Bump.

phil47 12-10-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGSTL
Which upgrade did you get? Can you post what is written on your service ticket?

As per my service invoice:

"Completed reprogramming of EGS Control Module with CIP version 23.02.02."

CGSTL 12-12-2006 02:00 AM

Thanks!:thumbup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by phil47
As per my service invoice:

"Completed reprogramming of EGS Control Module with CIP version 23.02.02."


alexz 01-10-2007 10:45 PM

does this apply to my 06 4.4 sport production may 2006?
how do I check my current version?

noncom23 01-10-2007 10:49 PM

Unless you have gotten one already,v.23
will work for you also. Any problems?


Quote:

Originally Posted by alexz
does this apply to my 06 4.4 sport production may 2006?
how do I check my current version?


Trouties 01-11-2007 12:10 AM

I had an update to my 4.8is from the dealer and it made a diference but it seems that it reverts back to the old issue on occasion. So there is a transmission update that the dealer is aware of!

rangerfan 01-11-2007 11:15 AM

Got my 2004 4.4i updated about 2 weeks ago and the improvement is very noticeable. I should have done it a while ago!!

phil47 01-11-2007 11:40 AM

It's been a month of driving now with the new software and I continue to have the same, positive impression. No change (reversion) in transmission behavior. I have yet to feel the dreaded tranny slam despite multiple situations that would have CERTAINLY brought it on and it continues to accelerate smartly off-the-line. Very pleased to date. :thumbup:

rayxi 01-11-2007 01:21 PM

It's been a few months since the update and things seem to have reverted back to before the update. Perhaps not as harsh but definately not as good as just after the update.

I think the adaptive part of the software gets reset to default values during the update. As you drive and the settings get adjusted you'll notice changes. Unfortunately it's for the worse.

phil47 01-11-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayxi
It's been a few months since the update and things seem to have reverted back to before the update. Perhaps not as harsh but definately not as good as just after the update.

I think the adaptive part of the software gets reset to default values during the update. As you drive and the settings get adjusted you'll notice changes. Unfortunately it's for the worse.

Dang...hope that's not the case with mine. Hasn't reverted in one month and around a 1000 km (600 miles) of city driving.

Did you have tranny slam originally and is it back? That was the nasty one I don't want it back again....

rayxi 01-11-2007 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil47
Dang...hope that's not the case with mine. Hasn't reverted in one month and around a 1000 km (600 miles) of city driving.

Did you have tranny slam originally and is it back? That was the nasty one I don't want it back again....

Yes, it's slamming again, though not as hard.

noncom23 01-11-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayxi
Yes, it's slamming again, though not as hard.

Reflash time?

puding 06-07-2007 09:39 PM

Transmission Software update
 
Just got my 04 4.4i upgraded with a newer version of Tranny S/W. The invoice says

PROGRAMMING ERROR IN EGS
REPROGRAMMED EGS PER BULLETIN 240106
USING 25.02

I guess 25.02 is the latest version of the Tranny Software.

Yet to test it for a day or two before I can feel the difference.:thumbup::thumbup:

bimmer 06-09-2007 12:58 AM

Took my 2005 4.4i into the local dealer with trans issue as stated on this thread, and upon return this was stated on the invoice:

"Performed short test. Checked faults on engine and trans No faults."

What ever you don't ask this dealer to perform the software update in Southern California - they actually trashed my X5 doing an oil change . . .

ika 06-21-2007 04:30 PM

show this to your dealer:

SERVICE BULLETIN:2420205 NHTSA ITEM NUMBER:10014893

MFG Bulletin Date: 20060101 Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Summary: HARSH 2-1 DOWNSHIFT. *EH BMW E35. *SC X5 FROM 10/03 UP TO 04/05. *TT
Date added to datbase: 20050511

I have same problem on 2004 4.4 X5, trying to explane to my dealer.

ika 06-25-2007 05:05 PM

SERVICE BULLETIN:2420205 NHTSA ITEM NUMBER:10014893

MFG Bulletin Date:
20060101 Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Summary: HARSH 2-1 DOWNSHIFT. *EH BMW E35. *SC X5 FROM 10/03 UP TO 04/05. *TT
Date added to datbase: 20050511


I showed to my dealer and he did it. no more harsh downshift.

babysvt 08-27-2007 06:58 PM

I just got my 05 4.4 about two weeks ago and noticed this happening. It is noticable sometimes in drive but horrible when I am in sport mode. I was worried because my 01 never did this. I am going to call the dealership and get this in to get fixed.

Thanks so much for the sense of relief!!!

dazzpowder 11-16-2007 06:35 AM

Has anyone had this upgrade in the U.K BMW here are telling me it doesn't exist for Europe.

Thanks

apetrov1x5 11-16-2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzpowder
Has anyone had this upgrade in the U.K BMW here are telling me it doesn't exist for Europe.

Thanks

i would like to know also

gchristofi 03-15-2009 06:18 PM

Bump... anyone in UK? Perhaps not available then!

cavx5 03-15-2009 08:50 PM

hi everyone..i have a 2005 with a 05/2005 build date i think my tranny is ok..i get some jerking when its cold on initial start give it a little gas and it smooths out...think i need s/w update..from what i am reading it for build date up to 04/2005..thanks rob

antonnyc 03-16-2009 12:38 AM

2003 4.4i

I'm getting fed up with my stealer......for months now when I am coming to a stop from about 5mph to 0 I feel a jerk like if someone rear ended me....maybe from 2nd gear to 1st it jerks?????

The software was "supposedly" updated but nonsense....2 days later same issue...

anyone esle?

X5 Meister 03-16-2009 12:43 AM

welcome to "the lurch". BTW, what dealer do you go to?

JT///MC 03-16-2009 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmer
Took my 2005 4.4i into the local dealer with trans issue as stated on this thread, and upon return this was stated on the invoice:

"Performed short test. Checked faults on engine and trans No faults."

What ever you don't ask this dealer to perform the software update in Southern California - they actually trashed my X5 doing an oil change . . .

Tell me more. Would that be Savage BMW?

GershX5 03-16-2009 02:55 AM

I am currently having the same problem on my 06 4.4 Does this bulletin affect my car also?

X5 Meister 03-16-2009 03:04 AM

Do a search, it's been discussed ad nauseum. There is lots to read.

antonnyc 03-16-2009 08:37 PM

Orange County BMW of Harriman NY tells me that SAD STORY!!!!!!!!!

What is going on here with the tranny? Update my :rippedoff :stfu:

realchef 03-16-2009 09:33 PM

I did have the Tranny software update installed, made a difference. It does exist.

ALSO, today they updated the engine software. The firing control. It has made an improvement also. The power curve has evened out and not such a slam at 3k rpm. It opens up between 2,500 and 3k instead of all at once.
:thumbup:

RMak 03-19-2009 11:45 AM

I have a 2004 4.4i and my X5 warranty has run out. Does anyone have an idea how much the software update costs?

Bimmerfan4life 03-19-2009 12:39 PM

Orange County BMW of Harriman NY tells me that SAD STORY!!!!!!!!!

What is going on here with the tranny? Update my :rippedoff
So they refused to do it? or acted like it didnt exsist?

realchef 03-19-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMak
I have a 2004 4.4i and my X5 warranty has run out. Does anyone have an idea how much the software update costs?

they hit me for 1 hr labor charge, that's it.

omodos 04-14-2009 10:45 AM

Does anyone know if the 'lurch' thump in the rear actually damages the transmission?thanks

Rickjen 05-04-2009 07:59 PM

I just had a TSB performed today on my '06 3.1 X5. according to this site;
2006 BMW X5 Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)
it was transmission related. The TSB number is SIB 120808. Paperwork also says '326 WWBX'
Is this for the same thing everyone is complaining about?

KingCon 05-06-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickjen (Post 616608)
I just had a TSB performed today on my '06 3.1 X5. according to this site;
2006 BMW X5 Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)
it was transmission related. The TSB number is SIB 120808. Paperwork also says '326 WWBX'
Is this for the same thing everyone is complaining about?

I called my local dealer, sent him the above link and still they have no idea what I am talking about. Would a DINAN software upgrade do the same thing?

jsears 05-06-2009 11:55 PM

Dinan software will do the following:

Performance Engine Software extracts additional power as well as improving drivabiltiy. The software safely raises the rev-limiter by 100 rpm, enabling you to carry more road speed in each gear, as well as optimize shift points. The top speed governor has been removed, enabling the cars to reach their natural top speed. Revised EML tuning provides improved drivability by speeding up throttle response.

anerbe 05-07-2009 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCon (Post 617529)
I called my local dealer, sent him the above link and still they have no idea what I am talking about. Would a DINAN software upgrade do the same thing?

The TSB is for MY 2005 and 2006 X5's with M54 engine and GM5 Trans

KingCon 05-07-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anerbe (Post 617599)
The TSB is for MY 2005 and 2006 X5's with M54 engine and GM5 Trans

So does my year/engine type have an update?

abtin1198 05-07-2009 01:49 PM

hey guys, how much does a Dinan upgrade usually cost? is it alot? do i have to take it to the dealer? thnx


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