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Rabbit 03-28-2009 06:59 AM

20" or 22" staggered?
 
i just got a 2003 black on black. i want to get a nice set of wheels. i found alot od wheels on ebay. replicas and oem. i like the look of stagered. but dont see to many with 22" staggered. is there a reason why i dont see alot running that style.

i want them to fit nice not stick out alot. i want them to tuck as if they were stock. i want looks with out giving up the ride. any ideas or comments on the rims size? if anyone has any pics od 22" staggered that would be nice. thanks

Essam Khafagi 03-28-2009 07:35 AM

I'd say 20 staggered ... 20x9.5 fronts and 20x10.5 rears ... this is the OEM setup

blueagle 03-28-2009 08:07 AM

Go with staggered 20"s . Use OEM Style 87 rims......:thumbup:

Rabbit 03-28-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essam Khafagi
I'd say 20 staggered ... 20x9.5 fronts and 20x10.5 rears ... this is the OEM setup

thanks, any good places to find replica staggered wheels? or ebay is the best place to find ? and do you have an idea where i can get the 4.6 body kit for my 4.4 painted would be the best but i can get them done. i like instant gratification. i dont like to wait.

Rabbit 03-28-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essam Khafagi
I'd say 20 staggered ... 20x9.5 fronts and 20x10.5 rears ... this is the OEM setup


o ya. and i see your from saudi. im in Jubail working ,i was in Jeddah last year.

Essam Khafagi 03-28-2009 08:31 AM

Nice to meet you Rabbit ... I got my 87s from Dubai ... they are very rare in Saudi you have to buy them new from the dealer for around 13,000 Saudi Riyals (3,470 $)

KingCon 03-28-2009 10:06 AM

I've got a set for sale

Replica 87's $650+SHIPPING
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3.../newnew009.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3.../newnew010.jpg

Rabbit 03-28-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KingCon

do you have any more pics of your ride it looks sick. i like black. i own everything black on black. escalade , 323ci, bagged 96 impala, honda 1000rr and a harley bobber. all black on black.

Rabbit 03-28-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essam Khafagi
Nice to meet you Rabbit ... I got my 87s from Dubai ... they are very rare in Saudi you have to buy them new from the dealer for around 13,000 Saudi Riyals (3,470 $)

ya i know everything cost alot when i comes to car stuff, everything here is cheeper,, like gas. i like that i can fill it up for 25 SAR ( $6.50 ) i hate to go home and fill my gas tank up. i was also thinking of getting and shipping home a LUMINA SS, for the people who dont know it a BAD A$$ car with 6.0 v8 ls6 . but it was going to cost way 2 much to send home.

chile1 03-28-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit
i just got a 2003 black on black. i want to get a nice set of wheels. i found alot od wheels on ebay. replicas and oem. i like the look of stagered. but dont see to many with 22" staggered. is there a reason why i dont see alot running that style.

i want them to fit nice not stick out alot. i want them to tuck as if they were stock. i want looks with out giving up the ride. any ideas or comments on the rims size? if anyone has any pics od 22" staggered that would be nice. thanks

I'd go with 20" staggered. I just purchase my wheels from PowerWheels Pro (replicals of OEM Style 214's) - I love them....great service/great price. They also offer the replicas of Style 87's.........Power Wheels Pro :: WHEELS for your PREMIER car


http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...i-x5-after.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...-new-shoes.jpg

IMHO, I prefer the 214's over the '87's because it's the new look for the E70's. When I upgrade to an E70 I will take these wheels and put them on my new car. I don't believe you can't do this with the 87's.

diyanich 03-28-2009 10:39 AM

87th are pleasing the eyes :thumbup:

mrbmwx5 03-28-2009 11:03 AM

Style 87's.:thumbup:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/...f39026ae_b.jpg

TaMbALoLoNg 03-28-2009 11:19 AM

Have you considered a 21" stag set up? That's as far as I would go, but like most of the guys here I concur with 87 on 20"s, ya think.

Keksus 03-28-2009 11:27 AM

I have styling 168, they look quite sick as well and bit fresher than the 87`s. Sorry for the dirty car, they are my winter wheels :D
http://www.bmwpower.lv/files/member_...77379_1741.jpg

JCAPX5 03-28-2009 12:28 PM

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Hey rabbit congrats on the new ride.

I'll throw a few pics from my other opst of my old 2002 Sienna red X5 with 22's for your reference. They were not staggered but looked great back in 2001!

Now I'm on to a set of the wonderul 87's for our new 2006 X5. The 22's added quite a bit of weight which as you know wears on things like brake pads and rotors and most of the front end bits. Also kills acceleration a little too. Personally I think most of this negative impact is trivial but here we are modding our X5's with CAI's for a fe mroe horses so....

Anyway, check the pics of our old X5 with 22's. I think I ran 275's all around.

Good luck and enjoy!:thumbup:

JCAPX5 03-28-2009 12:29 PM

PS The X was also lowered with the H&R kit about 1.5 inches. She handled like a champ!

sixers229 03-28-2009 01:56 PM

What wheels are those JCAPX5, do they make them in any other finishes?

2006E53 03-28-2009 03:59 PM

i have 22" 168s staggered on my 4.4. they look great and drive well even after an H&R drop

KingCon 03-28-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit
do you have any more pics of your ride it looks sick. i like black. i own everything black on black. escalade , 323ci, bagged 96 impala, honda 1000rr and a harley bobber. all black on black.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3.../newnew013.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...rek/new002.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3.../newnew017.jpg

sunilgoureddy 03-28-2009 07:38 PM

Nice X5
 
Very cool looking X5 with nice mods.

I have same sterling Grey 4.4 and I am looking for Wheel mods.

Some one is selling the 214 wheels and tires perfect condition , here in my neighbourhood non staggered for 900 with the nice brand new tires. Is it a good buy or should i get the staggered set? Please help me as I am so confused. I like your look and i like 87s more..

Thanks,
Sunil

KingCon 03-28-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sunilgoureddy
Very cool looking X5 with nice mods.

I have same sterling Grey 4.4 and I am looking for Wheel mods.

Some one is selling the 214 wheels and tires perfect condition , here in my neighbourhood non staggered for 900 with the nice brand new tires. Is it a good buy or should i get the staggered set? Please help me as I am so confused. I like your look and i like 87s more..

Thanks,
Sunil

Can't beat 900....

JCAPX5 03-28-2009 11:22 PM

Agree with KingCon $900 is a smokin' price for wheels AND tires if they're in good shape. So many nice wheels guys, your X5's looks awesome.

My old 22's were made by a company called Bazo and they did come in a variety of finishes. This was back in 2001-2002 so I'm sure if they are still around. I'm back on the OEM kick and LOVE 87/214's decisions decisions...

Rabbit 03-29-2009 12:52 AM

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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...rek/new002.jpg
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is you 4.4 all stock on the body? did you add any of the 4.6 kit or any other moldings? it just looks like the trim is standing out a little more. it might be because of the black wheels. let me know it looks nice. thanks. do you have any drop?

Keksus 03-29-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2006E53
i have 22" 168s staggered on my 4.4. they look great and drive well even after an H&R drop

Can you put som pics with 168 22`s and the drop. I am thinking to go the same way.

2006E53 03-29-2009 01:31 PM

heres the link to some pics i recently posted

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...-my-4-4-a.html

Keksus 03-29-2009 01:43 PM

Thanks. Looks good :thumbup:

sunilgoureddy 03-29-2009 03:07 PM

Thanks guys. I agree 900 is the best price. But only hesitation is that they are not staggered and staggered is the more aggressive and sharp look. Also, that guy has chrome 87's staggered with 2 good front tires(diamaris) and I need to replace the back tires which cost me $800 more to get. Or should i go to the new silver 87's for 1800 shipped with vredesteins?

Which looks good on Sterling Grey Silver or Chrome? Please help in deciding..

KingCon 03-29-2009 03:28 PM

All stock 4.4i...wheels are not stag. I thought it would take away from the aggressiveness that the stag 87 had. To be honest, I prefer this setup not only on looks but also handling.

Rabbit 03-29-2009 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCon
All stock 4.4i...wheels are not stag. I thought it would take away from the aggressiveness that the stag 87 had. To be honest, I prefer this setup not only on looks but also handling.

are they 10.5 x 20" where did you get them. there was a set on ebay but it went off before i got back on. let me know thanks. looks good.

rastaFarai 03-30-2009 12:03 AM

i couldnt think of anywhere else to post this - ebay 214 chrome reps with tires $1400

eBay Motors: 20" 10/11 Chrome E70 Aftermarket BMW X5 Wheels Tires (item 330317876640 end time Mar-30-09 10:18:24 PDT)

and hey since everyone is showing their pics.. :D

just put these Ferric Gray 20s on - 11" rear 10" front.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3433/...308f885c87.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3649/...47b5a23e04.jpg

X5 SOUTH CITY 03-30-2009 01:56 AM

^^^^ Nice ferric gray 20's!! told you it would look good than the silver ones

KingCon 03-30-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit
are they 10.5 x 20" where did you get them. there was a set on ebay but it went off before i got back on. let me know thanks. looks good.


Thanks. I did get them off ebay. seller's name is: toomucheffort. I had them refinished locally.

ekvals 03-30-2009 05:55 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between staggered and non staggered.?

TaMbALoLoNg 03-30-2009 06:26 PM

staggered - rear wheels are wider than front wheels.
non-staggered - all wheels(front & rear) have the same width.

ekvals 03-30-2009 06:40 PM

Aaah.

Thats it ha.. The rear rim is wider then the front one..

Been wondering a while about that..:)

Anyone know what the offset on the 18" 87 style rims are.?

Also, if buying staggered rims, will the tires be aligned on the outside or the inside.?

wysocki40 03-30-2009 11:38 PM

They fit e53
 
I have a 2005 and just curious if the wheels you bought from Power Wheels Pro came with everything you needed to install on your e53.

Also I'm assuming the stock tires will fit these rims correct?



NW

Rabbit 03-31-2009 03:25 AM

dumb question
 
what is the term ( per-facelift )? it is in reguards to the headlight and brake lights. i have been reading and alot of it is per facelift mods. i have a 2003 x5 4.4 the production date is 11/2002 if mine per face lift?

Essam Khafagi 03-31-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit
what is the term ( per-facelift )? it is in reguards to the headlight and brake lights. i have been reading and alot of it is per facelift mods. i have a 2003 x5 4.4 the production date is 11/2002 if mine per face lift?

Rabbit, it is not "per" it is "pre" which means before facelift ... this applies to all X5s from first production until 2004 I guess ... you can easily know coz the front of the pre-facelifted cars is completely different than the facelifted ones ... check the pics below:

Pre-Facelift

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...-angle-480.jpg

Facelift

http://www.auctimoto.com/wp-content/...mw-x5-2005.jpg

Essam Khafagi 03-31-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekvals
Also, if buying staggered rims, will the tires be aligned on the outside or the inside.?

They align from outside

chile1 03-31-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wysocki40
I have a 2005 and just curious if the wheels you bought from Power Wheels Pro came with everything you needed to install on your e53.

Also I'm assuming the stock tires will fit these rims correct?



NW

Yes, they come with everything including centre caps & the hub centric rings to fix the E53's

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...-new-shoes.jpg

I prefer the 214's over the '87's because it's the new look for the ungraded E70's. When I upgrade to an E70 I will take these wheels and put them on my new car. I don't believe you can't do this with the 87's or the cheese chrome plated ones shown earlier on this train.

I'm also running Vredestein Ultrac SUV Sessanta Tires (staggered set - 275/40/20 & 315/35/20). Paid ~$850 including shipping, from got3bay on eBay - see eBay Motors: Four VRedestein Tires (2) 275/40/20 , (2) 315/35/20 (item 120386462579 end time Mar-12-09 23:40:47 PDT) - best looking/best performance tires IMHO!!
:D

KingCon 03-31-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

chile1

I don't believe you can't do this with the 87's or the cheese chrome plated ones shown earlier on this train.
X5 on "cheese chrome plated" 24''s
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/damgrek/24s.jpg

X5 on 20'' classic chrome plated 87's

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...grek/X5018.jpg

Learning the difference between the two: Priceless!
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...attitude14.gif

chile1 03-31-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCon
X5 on "cheese chrome plated" 24''s


X5 on 20'' classic chrome plated 87's


Learning the difference between the two: Priceless!

Then why did you switch to the black rims........;)


KingCon 03-31-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chile1
Then why did you switch to the black rims........;)

Simple. A non stag setup. Those wheels were the reason I feel in love with the X5, and if they looked as good in a non stag setup I would have kept it that way. Cheesy and 87's don't belong in the same sentence chrome or not:cool:

chile1 03-31-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCon
Simple. A non stag setup. Those wheels were the reason I feel in love with the X5, and if they looked as good in a non stag setup I would have kept it that way. Cheesy and 87's don't belong in the same sentence chrome or not:cool:

No offense but chrome wheels (87's or not) are just to much bling/too ghetto IMHO :rolleyes:

williamssk123 04-10-2009 06:28 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ruck4re004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ruck4re010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ruck4re012.jpg

GET THE 22's. They dont ride that much different and look alot better. Not like everyone else.

TwinsPoppa 04-10-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by williamssk123

Nice X and wheels. Could stand a little lowering but maybe you like it that way. Either way, X and wheels look darn good! :thumbup:

ekvals 04-10-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCon
Simple. A non stag setup. Those wheels were the reason I feel in love with the X5, and if they looked as good in a non stag setup I would have kept it that way. Cheesy and 87's don't belong in the same sentence chrome or not:cool:

Just out of curiousity, we did you want a non stag set-up.? Doesnt it ride better staggered.?

RickM5X3 04-10-2009 10:22 PM

Staggered setup only adds more understeer. It is purely a cosmetic choice IMO. Maybe beneficial in putting power down in high powered RWD cars, but probably styling for the X cars.

themoth 04-10-2009 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa
Nice X and wheels. Could stand a little lowering but maybe you like it that way. Either way, X and wheels look darn good! :thumbup:

I might be selling my 20's of the 168 after seeing this. I too think it could be dropped alittle but the 22's look great!!

iMPAKT 04-11-2009 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by themoth
I might be selling my 20's of the 168 after seeing this. I too think it could be dropped alittle but the 22's look great!!

If you do, im very interested!

993turbo 04-11-2009 07:53 AM

Go for the 22's!!!! Looks great, and rides well. No issues! :popcorn:

Gixxerboy63 05-16-2009 06:21 PM

I would like to see the 22 inch 168 on an areo kit!

Gixxerboy63 05-16-2009 06:27 PM

williamssk123; That X looks awesome with the 22" 168s! I was shopping for 20" 214s, but now I am reconsidering....I wonder what that would look like with the 4.6 front spoiler or the Aero kit!?!

mrBrigante 05-17-2009 06:15 PM

oh man definitely a big thanks on that link, i was shifting more towards style 87's but these rims just do all kinds of things for me.

Gixxerboy63 05-17-2009 10:15 PM

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Ok... so I found a pic of a silver aero kit with 20" 168s and a pic of the 20" 214s; I cut and pasted the 214s on the photo with ms paintbrush and played around the size on the 168s to resemble 22". I know that the result is a little shady on the artwork, but it should give an idea of how the different wheels/sizes would look. What do you guys think?

ekvals 05-17-2009 10:31 PM

They all look good..

IMO the 214 is something extra.. They are somewhat different from rims in general. Im getting a set of the 20" 214 soon.

I've never been keen on to large wheels, so i find the 20" to look better then 22". It depends on the rims offcourse..

Also, the X looks better with some rubber on it.:)

Gixxerboy63 05-17-2009 10:52 PM

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My X has been shoed with 20" 87s for awhile and I am ready to change it up. I have also been debating the aero kit vs. the 4.6 scheme for way too long.:dunno: These photos have finally summed it up for me; I am thinking that I should go with the 20" 214s and the areo kit. It makes the e53 look tight and more updated. Very tasteful.

Can't afford the e70....but I can mod this one up so at least I feel like I have something new!

Titanium interior trim
angel eye headlights and LED taillights (careful to maintain stock appearance)
gauge rings
M3 steering wheel
Navigation/XM/bluetooth/rearview camera
fresh floormats
(....did I forget anything?)

Oh yeah...Anyone want to buy my sport steering wheel or staggered 87s?:D

bankerkys 05-18-2009 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit (Post 597392)
i just got a 2003 black on black. i want to get a nice set of wheels. i found alot od wheels on ebay. replicas and oem. i like the look of stagered. but dont see to many with 22" staggered. is there a reason why i dont see alot running that style.

i want them to fit nice not stick out alot. i want them to tuck as if they were stock. i want looks with out giving up the ride. any ideas or comments on the rims size? if anyone has any pics od 22" staggered that would be nice. thanks

Staggered setup in 20s. Also, a shout out to League City, Texas!

b1x 05-18-2009 01:18 AM

I would stick with 20"s for least vibration/potential damage/cost of tires, better performance

Russ from Eurotech helped me out huge. lots of oem replica wheels!


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