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JT///MC 04-23-2009 06:56 PM

WHOOOOAAAA!
 
Just got the X back today and I can't get this silly grin off my face! WOW, its like I got a brand new engine! The car not only idles buttery smooth, there is no more hesitation pulling from a stop or while rolling. I swear it seems like I gained 50hp and 50ft lbs torque! Just amazing! Wow, so this is what a 4.8is really feels like. Ever since I bought the car, I felt that my 740i sport was a faster car than the 4.8is due to weight/gearing/etc. But now, OH MAN! The 4.8is is one fast SUV! I gotta take a clip of the x-pipe now! I should have done a before and after b/c you guys would be shocked at the difference in the BARK of the engine. It just sounds totally BEASTLY!

BMWLOVER 04-23-2009 07:07 PM

Nice to hear!!

Weasel 04-23-2009 07:27 PM

Yes they are beastly! Did you have the intermediate levers and x-pipe done at the same time?

JT///MC 04-23-2009 07:33 PM

x-pipe I did 3 weeks ago. It sounded good, but when I parked the car, I just revved it up to hear that nice sound, I was pleasantly surprised!

jst2878 04-23-2009 09:48 PM

so what gave it the better performance. computer upgrades at the dealership?

X5 Meister 04-23-2009 09:53 PM

:thumbup::thumbup:

Icer006 04-23-2009 11:43 PM

JT, who did your x-pipe? Mine is still sitting in the box. Did you bring it to a local guy? I need to do mine...

JT///MC 04-24-2009 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icer006 (Post 611348)
JT, who did your x-pipe? Mine is still sitting in the box. Did you bring it to a local guy? I need to do mine...

I used Z Performance in Corona off the 91/15 fwy. The owner is really cool. Labor was only $120 and it was a clean job. I used them previously for my dual magnaflow install on the 740i. They're cool and let you watch.

Now for some fun! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMwDHDLu34w

JT///MC 04-24-2009 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jst2878 (Post 611290)
so what gave it the better performance. computer upgrades at the dealership?

I got the intermediate levers replaced. Night and day. Had a bunch of other work done too while it was there and it is like a new car again.

Icer006 04-24-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT///MC (Post 611399)
I used Z Performance in Corona off the 91/15 fwy. The owner is really cool. Labor was only $120 and it was a clean job. I used them previously for my dual magnaflow install on the 740i. They're cool and let you watch.

Now for some fun! :)

YouTube - 2004 X5 4.8is X-pipe


Thanks.. I'll go there.

NyMench 04-24-2009 12:04 PM

Intermediate Levers.....FYI

SI B 11 02 05
Engine January 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B11 02 05 dated May 2005.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
N62 Engine - Rough Idle, Misfire Faults after Cold Start


MODEL
E53 (X5 4.4 i/4.8is); E60, E63/64, E65/66 with N62 from 06/04 up to 02/05 production


SITUATION
Customer may complain of erratic engine idle speed lasting for approximately 20 seconds after a cold start. [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Check [COLOR=blue ! important]Engine[/COLOR][/COLOR] Soon light may be illuminated and misfire faults for various cylinders (e.g. FC 2742, 2743, 2744, 2745, 2746, 2748, 2749, 274E) may be stored in the DME.[/COLOR]

CAUSE
Incorrect tolerances and geometry of Valvetronic intermediate levers are causing uneven cylinder filling during the transitional cold start period (60 seconds after the engine has been started) when the Valvetronic system is switching from the initial 6 mm to a minimum 0.3/0.8 mm valve lift.

CORRECTION
On a customer complaint basis, and after performing diagnostic procedure described below, replace the Valvetronic intermediate levers.

PROCEDURE

Perform basic engine diagnosis (compression, ignition, [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]fuel [COLOR=blue ! important]pressure[/COLOR][/COLOR], etc) to rule out other potential causes.[/COLOR]

Allow the engine to cool down.

Connect GT1/DIS loaded with CD 44.0, or higher, to a cold vehicle (coolant temperature below 30 deg C) and from the Function Selection select: "Service Functions", "Drive", "Engine management ME9", "Test runs" and then "Tolerance test, intermediate lever".

Start the engine and follow-up the test plan.

Observe rough running values when idle speed stabilizes. If values are in excess of +/- 2.5 accompanied with noticeable engine vibration (and sometimes Check Engine Soon flashing), then remove valve covers on both banks.

Look for the intermediate lever production date (stamped on the lever, next to the smaller roller contacting the eccentric shaft).

If the production date is in the range between "04 180" and "04 324" (e.g. day 324 of the year 2004), then the whole set of intermediate levers (16) has to be replaced. The same classification of levers must be used when ordering the intermediate levers (classification number is stamped below production date). There are 5 classifications of levers used in the N62 engine.

Note: In an individual cylinder head, all levers must have the same classification, but two different classification of intermediate levers may be used in one engine (e.g. bank 1: classification 2, bank 2: classification 3).

Important: The lower production range of the affected intermediate levers is only an approximation. It is possible that levers produced prior to "04 180" (but not earlier then "03 363") may have certain deviations in tolerances.

For Valvetronic intermediate lever replacement procedure, refer to RA 11 37 012 (bank 1) and RA 11 37 014 (bank 2), found in [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]BMW[/COLOR] TIS.[/COLOR]

IMPORTANT:

Improved intermediate levers are currently available from our Parts Department.

In the event of a reproducible customer complaint proceed with the diagnostic and repair procedure. There is no need to contact Technical Hotline.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

11 37 7 516 895
Intermediate levers class 1
Maximum 16

11 37 7 514 012
Intermediate levers class 2
Maximum 16

11 37 7 514 013
Intermediate levers class 3
Maximum 16

11 37 7 514 014
Intermediate levers class 4
Maximum 16

11 37 7 514 015
Intermediate levers class 5
Maximum 16

11 12 7 513 194
Valve cover gasket bank 1
1

11 12 7 513 195
Valve cover gasket bank 2
1

11 31 7 507 432
Tensioner sealing ring
2

07 11 9 903 596
Valvetronic motor spacer ring
2

11 14 7 506 424
Timing chain cover, u-shape metal gasket, bank 1
1

11 14 7 506 425
Timing chain cover, u-shape metal gasket, bank 2
1

11 36 7 513 222
Vanos [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]solenoid[/COLOR] O-ring[/COLOR]
4

11 36 7 546 379
Vanos solenoid O-ring
4

11 36 7 501 423
Vanos unit bolts
4

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Cam sensor o-rings
4

11 12 7 518 420
Eccentric shaft sensor o-ring
2

NOTE:

It is not necessary to replace spark plugs tubes during a course of this repair.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]New [COLOR=blue ! important]Vehicle[/COLOR][/COLOR] Limited Warranty.[/COLOR]

Defect Code
11 37 91 42 00


Labor Operation:
Labor Allowance:


Main work:
00 55 453
93 FRU – E53 X5 4.4i/4.8is

91 FRU – E65/66

102 FRU – E60, E63/64


+Associated work:
00 55 793
91 FRU – E53 X5 4.4i/4.8is

admranger 04-24-2009 12:17 PM

TY NYMench.

Stupid question, but would this be covered under CPO also? The X5 that I am picking up tomorrow falls within these dates.

Was it widespread or some do and some don't?

Thanks!

NyMench 04-24-2009 12:35 PM

They should cover it......if it wasnot already performed on the car....ez to find out...and dealer has access to to what has been done under SB or warr work.....

even if the car is our of warr...i have seen dealers remedy the problem in good faith.....


Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger (Post 611586)
TY NYMench.

Stupid question, but would this be covered under CPO also? The X5 that I am picking up tomorrow falls within these dates.

Was it widespread or some do and some don't?

Thanks!


JT///MC 04-24-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NyMench (Post 611597)
...i have seen dealers remedy the problem in good faith.....

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thum bup::thumbup:

NyMench 04-24-2009 03:06 PM

jt///mc....

Wanna trade x5's i have a e36 m3 in the same color....and in all fairness....i think it would be better if you gave it to me....for coordination efforts!

X5 Meister 04-24-2009 04:09 PM

Hey NyMench, already posted that SIB in it's original format. If you want to delete your post and just link to mine feel free.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ld-days-2.html

Also, technically it's not covered under CPO since it's not mentioned in the SIB, but as stated above that doesn't mean they won't cover it.

NyMench 04-24-2009 04:14 PM

BLA BLA BLA BLA........ok :nanana:

;ph: here is your star......

its all subjective to the dealer....anywho....

Just teasing you


Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 611729)
Hey NyMench, already posted that SIB in it's original format. If you want to delete your post and just link to mine feel free.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ld-days-2.html

Also, technically it's not covered under CPO since it's not mentioned in the SIB, but as stated above that doesn't mean they won't cover it.


X5 Meister 04-24-2009 04:18 PM

Are you mocking me??? Where is that "ignore" function again???

NyMench 04-24-2009 04:22 PM

If the shoe fits!!!!!!!:stickpoke


Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 611735)
Are you mocking me??? Where is that "ignore" function again???


X5 Meister 04-24-2009 04:27 PM

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That's it!

Weasel 04-24-2009 07:20 PM

I almost get in trouble with my shop forman for being a sarcastic smart-ass to him... but I just tell him tact is for those not witty enough to be sarcastic.

Something tells me meister understands that!

X5 Meister 04-24-2009 07:29 PM

:thumbup:

admranger 04-24-2009 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 611782)
I almost get in trouble with my shop forman for being a sarcastic smart-ass to him... but I just tell him tact is for those not witty enough to be sarcastic.

Something tells me meister understands that!

Sarcasm is a valid, diverse viewpoint. It should be integral to every workplace diversity program.

I keep telling my management that if they send everyone to "dealing with difficult people" training, I wouldn't have to go.

Weasel 04-24-2009 09:39 PM

Definitely makes the workplace more/less tolerable! (depends on which end you are) What makes it better for me is the fact that my foreman is actually more sarcastic than me, but HATES when people are sarcastic to him! :rofl:

Icer006 04-25-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 611817)
Definitely makes the workplace more/less tolerable! (depends on which end you are) What makes it better for me is the fact that my foreman is actually more sarcastic than me, but HATES when people are sarcastic to him! :rofl:

A smartass is better than a dumbass. Tell him that. :D

Here's an example of a dumbass employee:

Hey Boss, I Crashed Your Car | NBC Washington

Weasel 04-25-2009 09:53 AM

Maybe I should try that trick with his car... Z4 M-coupe :D

Icer006 04-25-2009 09:54 AM

take pics! sorry for the OT, JT :D

LivinLoudX54.4 04-25-2009 12:20 PM

WOW!!! That sounds great. Is that X-pipe with stock mufflers? I'm looking into doing the X-pipe on my 4.4 soon but I can't seem to find a good clip with stock exhaust and x-pipe.

Engz 05-06-2009 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT///MC (Post 611400)
I got the intermediate levers replaced. Night and day. Had a bunch of other work done too while it was there and it is like a new car again.

To JT///MC (since your inbox is full)

I have a question because I was looking at your post about your X-pipe. And I wanted to do it and everyone was talking about an Intermidiate Lever. Can you enlighten me on what that is if you dont mind? Thanks

-England

X5rolls 05-06-2009 02:20 PM

Sounds great - I also saw this video again where the front wheel comes up off the ground... sick.

YouTube - Bmw X5 4.8is


Quote:

Originally Posted by JT///MC (Post 611399)
I used Z Performance in Corona off the 91/15 fwy. The owner is really cool. Labor was only $120 and it was a clean job. I used them previously for my dual magnaflow install on the 740i. They're cool and let you watch.

Now for some fun! :)

YouTube - 2004 X5 4.8is X-pipe


cavx5 05-06-2009 04:00 PM

sorry for the silly question but what are intermediate levers

Weasel 05-07-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5rolls (Post 617324)
Sounds great - I also saw this video again where the front wheel comes up off the ground... sick.

YouTube - Bmw X5 4.8is

That wheel coming off the ground is the result of an extra thick sway bar... sure it loweres body roll in turns, but you see what can happen. 1/2 the rubber on the ground in hard throttle turns! I'll deal with a hair bit more roll to keep the rubbers on the ground to avoid understeer.

Weasel 05-07-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavx5 (Post 617348)
sorry for the silly question but what are intermediate levers

;)



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