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gwinder 06-07-2009 09:28 AM

Tailgate rattle/knock is driving me nuts
 
I tried using the felt pads on the rubber stoppers but they only last a few days and then the rattle is back. What is the permanent fix for this please?
Thanks,

Gary

rastaFarai 06-07-2009 09:36 AM

chilliWilli was jst talking about this yesterday at the Tri State meet - maybe he'll jump on forum and answer. He mentioned the pads - but maybe its all about placement.

X Foomph 06-07-2009 11:27 AM

I'm also keen to hear any more/new advise on this almost at the top of 'Things Currently Pissing Me Off' list. I thought I had it nailed a few months ago, but no it sneeks back up there and rattles & squeeks, sometimes on bumps and when 'angle bending' the X in driveways etc but then again sometimes without. Sheesh, what gives ?? I've done the 'wrap up the tail latch in that sticky felt stuff' plus added the little round tabs on the 2 tail gate stops but no, it's till winning the fight.
Not good enough really, is it ??

To hell with it, let's all just weld the buggers closed.

X5girl 06-07-2009 12:29 PM

I fitted brand new modified stops, greased the locks and catches, top and bottom tailgates and its still there. Even removed the rams and rubber lubed the seal. Still there.

Now I turn the radio up.

X5Girl, xxx

blueagle 06-10-2009 07:39 AM

Count me in as another guy experiencing tailgate problem noise....What is best solution ????

Weasel 06-10-2009 07:49 AM

Mine is not wanting to go away with the normal measures either and I think I noticed why... I felt the bottom of the center catch right where the latch catches, I can feel a ridge/groove situation down there from the latch wearing into the catch. My guess is that the latch clicks into/out of the wear groove while driving due to body flex and the felt pads just held it tighter for a short period of time in these cases, hence the quick return.

I wonder how much the lower catch costs? May be worth a try, or if I remember later maybe remove mine and smooth out the groove to see if it makes a difference.

Boston X5 4.4 06-10-2009 10:42 PM

Dealer replaced my latch a while back and now no rattles....after I tried adding felt to all the usual areas.
Latch was very tight initially but seems to have settled in over time.

UWtke1489 06-10-2009 11:29 PM

I find cranking Britney Spears or The Jonas Brothers on the stereo helps the situation... just my .02 :dunno: :thumbup:

chilliwilli 06-11-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaFarai (Post 628342)
chilliWilli was jst talking about this yesterday at the Tri State meet - maybe he'll jump on forum and answer. He mentioned the pads - but maybe its all about placement.

The sound was driving me nuts...even if the music was turned up, just the fact that it exists annoyed me. I tried several methods including the felt pads on the rubber mounts. It worked but not for long so I convinced the CEO to drive one day as i literally sat in the trunk and was able to pinpoint the culprit (at least on my X). Turned out to be the latch. I've heard from several people that this is due to poor factory trunk compartment installation with some of the X5's...some even have their rear hatch mis-aligned.

I set out to find a thick felt pad that i could cut and cover both sides of the latch (upper)...i ended up using the small felt-pad dots. I cleaned the latch with rubbing alcohol and stuck 2 pads on each side. A little extra effort may be required when closing the hatch but it did the trick...been two weeks now and i haven't heard a sound :D

If anyone wants, i can take some pics but it won't be till this weekend as the truck is garaged during the week.

sprocket1200 06-11-2009 12:39 AM

stealer replaced my oem rubber stoppers, which did the trick

Weasel 06-11-2009 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UWtke1489 (Post 629820)
I find cranking Britney Spears or The Jonas Brothers on the stereo helps the situation... just my .02 :dunno: :thumbup:

Oh god that would make it worse! :doh:

X Foomph 06-11-2009 04:28 AM

While we're all here, can anybody else say that they have experienced the same as me, please?

Of late, more often than not it takes me 2, sometimes 3 goes at shutting the upper tailgate correctly. In that I mean the first (or second) attempt ends up with the latch not engaging correctly. I find if I give the t/gate a firm half slam it closes & latches ok. Each and every time, I also find myself peering through the boot area from the rear side window and checking if the upper tailgate lights are on or off, as sometimes it feels that it is closed ok but when I check it isn't.

Shit, the more I think about this the more it pisses me off. For a piece of the body that gets so much use it should have had more time spent on it back in the R & D lab and not be the big pain in the arse that it is for most of us. I reiterate, not good enough, at all.

RENEE 06-11-2009 10:30 AM

SAME

Weasel 06-11-2009 12:52 PM

Foomph, sounds to me like the outer stops are adjusted out too far, making the top hatch catch too tight. Try going back in one turn each.

X Foomph 06-11-2009 02:33 PM

Thanks Weasel :thumbup:
I'll give them both a full turn in, hopefully that'll help.

sprocket1200 06-12-2009 12:20 AM

report back!

chefwong 06-12-2009 11:28 AM

I forgot but is I do recall a updated hatch stopper.

Noise free for us, but I do recall a blurb on 2 about this

X Foomph 06-13-2009 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 630101)
Foomph, sounds to me like the outer stops are adjusted out too far, making the top hatch catch too tight. Try going back in one turn each.

Ok, so I tried to wind the stops in 1 turn but could only get about 1/4 turn out of each side. Funny thing though, that seems to have made a difference to the tailgate latching correctly. Going to put 2 more circular felt tips back on each stop and monitor rattles again. Thanks Weasel :thumbup:

zigzag 06-13-2009 03:51 AM

Had the same problem. After I adjusted the rubber stoppers on each side rattles disappered...( couple rounds clockwise in my case) If you turn rubber stopper too much counterwise , your trunk light will be on, try adjust those stoppers tight, but make sure when you close yohatch that inside light turns off.

Weasel 06-13-2009 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Foomph (Post 630703)
Ok, so I tried to wind the stops in 1 turn but could only get about 1/4 turn out of each side. Funny thing though, that seems to have made a difference to the tailgate latching correctly. Going to put 2 more circular felt tips back on each stop and monitor rattles again. Thanks Weasel :thumbup:

I tried the felt rounds on mine, didn't help much, and didn't last long. I have better luch lubricating the rubber surfaces with a smear of vasoline. That also doesn't add thickness/height to the stops as the felts can.

anas 06-13-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilliwilli (Post 629841)
The sound was driving me nuts...even if the music was turned up, just the fact that it exists annoyed me. I tried several methods including the felt pads on the rubber mounts. It worked but not for long so I convinced the CEO to drive one day as i literally sat in the trunk and was able to pinpoint the culprit (at least on my X). Turned out to be the latch. I've heard from several people that this is due to poor factory trunk compartment installation with some of the X5's...some even have their rear hatch mis-aligned.

I set out to find a thick felt pad that i could cut and cover both sides of the latch (upper)...i ended up using the small felt-pad dots. I cleaned the latch with rubbing alcohol and stuck 2 pads on each side. A little extra effort may be required when closing the hatch but it did the trick...been two weeks now and i haven't heard a sound :D

If anyone wants, i can take some pics but it won't be till this weekend as the truck is garaged during the week.

yes... please share some pics. the noise is driving me insane !

v10rick 06-13-2009 01:20 PM

Oh Please

I don't need to read this about our X5s.

Owned an Infiniti FX45 that had a rear gate creak or pop noise. Anything that caused body flex would trigger it.

I must have OCD because it drove me to sell the POS.

Seldom open the rear hatch on the X5...maybe that helps.

From now on I will never open the rear gate. lol

sprocket1200 06-13-2009 07:04 PM

um, the x5 hatch problem is fixable.

for the other obvious problem, a good psychologist will be able to help...

good luck

chilliwilli 06-15-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anas (Post 630784)
yes... please share some pics. the noise is driving me insane !

As i mentioned, i simply cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol for best adhesion...then i put 2 pads on each side. Haven't heard a sound since! :D

Inside-tailgate
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5...einside.th.jpg

Outside-tailgate
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/717...outside.th.jpg

pochiserna 06-15-2009 10:52 PM

I had the rubber bump stop, RealOEM.com BMW E53 X5 3.0i TRUNK LID/REAR WINDOW, (part no. 38) next to the latch missing. The dealer replaced it and no more noise.... thank God!!!.... Got it done under warranty...

anas 06-19-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilliwilli (Post 631586)
As i mentioned, i simply cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol for best adhesion...then i put 2 pads on each side. Haven't heard a sound since! :D

Inside-tailgate
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5...einside.th.jpg

Outside-tailgate
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/717...outside.th.jpg

thank you sir , i will try to do it , thnx for your help :thumbup:


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