I JUST GOT KILLED!!!!
 

I was heading home after a nice dinner with two other friends in my car. I see this new bmw 335 coupe behind the light, so I go beside her. she rev her engine asking to race, me being in my 4.4 sport package put out my dsc and put the X in sport mode, thinking ok im gonna show my buddies how fast this X is. Guess what, the light goes green and we both pushed it, to my surprise she killled me really bad where I just slowed down. same goes on the next light. she walked all over me and embarrassed me again:dunno::D:(:yikes:. Now, is it my car thats being lazy or any of you guys have experienced the same before?let me know. BTW, I checked and there was no cops around. Ive had my share of tickets in the past.

You could trade your X for a Lancer Evo.:D

Um, you raced a new 335 with a loaded X5? And you did it twice? :rofl:

Seriously, there is nothing wrong with your X but you need to read up on the 335 or else go drive one.

That twin turbo 6 is a killer, even beats the old M3. You'd need one of the new M X6 or M X5's to be even close...

The 335i will smoke and eat any 3.0i,4.4i x5 out there for breakfast

you have a truck! you do not race with a truck....

what about the 4.6 or 4.8is??

the new 335i is a beast! a x5 will come nowhere close to it.

you forgot 4.6 and 4.8

The 0-60 is about the same (5.1) but the 1/4 mile is 13.6 (0.2 behind the E46 M3) which is faster than the 15.1 1/4 mile of the 4.6is.

I drive the 335's quite often at work, and they are amazing pieces of work! You should go test drive one just for fun... seriously!

i race all the time:D:D

wow, some people just have no concept of reality...

I at least know what races I can wil vs what ones I will have my ass handed to me. When I know they will spank me, I still rev up and get them ready to go... but just sit back at the light and laugh as they burn off into oblivion! :rofl:

What exactly did you expect? You'd pull 5-10 cars on him on your stock 4.4 in "sport" mode?

I was able to pull on a stock 135i from 2nd gear in my lightly modified 996 C4S (intake, plenum, headers, cats, exhaust)... and you were expecting a stock 4.4i to pull or "hang" with a 335i?? :confused:

President of the company I work for has an 08 335i. For those not in the know, I tell them that car is a "rocket on wheels".

Wicked picture in the sig btw Weasel.

Dude...come on. :damn: I would strongly suggest deleting this thread, ASAP.

At least he didn't lie about it......

installing a turret gun and you wont need to race anyone anymore:D Tank power!

WOW GUYS, take it easyyyy, you all need to RELAXXX. I just wanted to share this. Obviously if i knew I wouldn't have race. I am not going to delete this or anything. at least i was honest about it and didnt make up some BS story. It just happened, I didnt plan to race this car so I could get your little stats all over here.

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it is an SUV man, dont do it again. glad you were honest about what happened, but it is silly to race a 335i with any X5.

I once raced a Nissan 350z and i beat him. Now i dont know if he didnt know how to change gears and thats how i beat him or his car just couldn't keep up with the x. so having that in my mind I thought i could beat the 335. thats all.

It's time to move on to the next car right? it seems like your race your X a lot.

LIKE THAT LOL

U SHOULD RACE THE INFINITY FX35 THE TRAILBLAZER AND THE ENVOY AND THE RR SPORT(NOT SUPERCHARGED)
U WILL DEFINITLY BEAT THEM

I believe 4.8is is a bit faster than 335i.

don't even think about it.... the 335i will kill any stock X5 on the market right now... like everyone else said... you have a truck!! i only rev at the light to get them fast cars going and watch them speed off.... it's fun!

bmw 335 : 306 HP
0-60 : 5.5sec -on Auto ; 5.7sec -Manual

bmw X5 4.4 N62 engine : 320HP
0-60 : 7sec

bmw X5 4.8 N62 engine : 360HP
0-60 : 6.1sec

bmw X5 4.6 M62 engine : 347HP
0-60 : 6.5sec

SO WE HAVE NO CHANCE AGAINST BMW 335i

Dont worry, be happy .
335 is BMW too

It must of been an automatic 350Z .... these X5 are so fragle im scare to hammer mine sometimes.. its like looking for trouble(and i have a warranty)

i hear to much doubting of the x. i wouldnt do anything with nothing less then a .6 or .8 but i can assure you my x5 has taken plenty of cars on a highway roll. there is no comparison with the weight of the x off the line so thats foolish to even try. BUT at a 40mph roll in shift mode you have a good shot.

The added weight in your X put you out of the race before you ever started. Don't take the comments people make in this thread personal......you made a bad move and owned up to it. Now you know....if the badge has _35i.....leave 'em alone ;)......Phil

:bustingup

That Z either wasn't trying or he missed a shift and couldn't find the right gear becuase it would smoke you as well. Mid 5's 0-60 for the 335i is probably high. BMW claims 5.3 for the manual trans and they are notoriously conservative. It is probably more like high 4's low 5's. With tuning it can be as fast as a new M3. In all honesty, your 4.4 technically isn't faster than any current 3-series offered in the US. Even a 328i automatic has a BMW rated 0-60 of 6.9 seconds. The 4.4i is 7+. Stay away from most newer BMW cars if you are trying to race. Street racing is stupid, but you should probably at least know what the other car is capable of if you are going to try to impress your friends and put your foot down.

No way.

totally agree with you! I've tried it once too but couldnt finish cause someone got in front of me but its really no comparison to the 335's when it comes to speed.

Street racing is dangerous and I'd never do that!

We have a turnpike that usually has 4 or more toll booths per pay station and about 1/4 mile after exiting, they merge into 2 or 3 lanes depending on where you are at with a 75 mph speed limit. Sometimes I happen to be late for work or taking advantage of a full lunch hour so coming out of the toll booths I sometimes driving like... well like I am late. It just so happens that I have some co workers that must also be late or in the same situation as often as I am and don't want to be late for work either. One drives a 2003 350Z automatic, another drives a 2005 Mustang GT automatic, and another use to drive a 2003 Evo 8 but now drives a 2004 TL 6MT. Now there are times when some of us happen drop our 2 quarters at the toll and get the green light to exit the toll booths at the same time. All I have to say is that my co worker that use to drive the evo, had less time to get to work than me because he disappears before I hit 60mph, but now that he drives a TL he has exactly the same amount of time to get to work as my co worker who drives the Mustang GT which is less than the time it takes me in my 2004 X5 4.8is to travel a cars length by the time I reach the posted speed limit. But my co worker in the 350Z must have at least twice that time extra than us to get to work. Either that or he has no work ethic!

From what I have read a 4.4 is about 6.6-6.8. A 328 would be about the same. But in the end, yeah, racing a 335 is like John Daly racing Usain Bolt :bustingup.

modded.. is whole another story... my modded 335i with no traction can easily run a 12.2 1/4 mile and it looks completely stock.

Agreed.

The only info I have in front of me on the e53 is a 2003 BMWusa brochure that lists the 4.4i's 0-60 as 7.5 seconds. I know BMW is conservative in their estimates, but sub 7's may be pushing it a little. Either way, I wouldn't try picking on any current 3 series models at a stoplight.

i agree, but i do have fun racing them in my M5, they all want to try and go at it, but my M pulls away nicely

Good point. The discussion is on the 335, but the 135 and 535 have pretty much the same performance. 0.2 seconds slower on the 535 due to the additional 40 kg curb weight, and a little faster on the 135 for the same reason. 0.2 seconds faster on the manual over the auto, so my 535 should be a match for an auto 335, if one wants to believe BMW performance figures.

Watch out for that sleeper _35i that is modified as much as SANguru's or you might be posting a just got killed thread too. :D

your x...15.0 quarter mile... her 335....13.5 quarter mile....even a 4.8 x5 is 14.5 quarter mile

I really don't get why people like the 335 so much. Friend of mine has it and it feels like a big luxury cruiser to me. for all its hyped up stats it still doesn't feel anywhere as good as the race bred e46 M3.

yeah, i like the e46 M3 more too...

but the performance of a 335i is great.

HeHeHe......that was good!

it's great... for a straight line.

I had an E46 M3 and would rather have that than a 335i.

:thumbup:

nice car PK8. did you wanna race?? ;);):wow:;);):rofl: nice looking bmw man. I actually went to a dealer and test drive one, pretty amazing car with great sound, its nice. ive been thinking of changing my X for a while. maybe a Porsche Cayenne but now the 3 serious has got me thinking.

Catch a 335 from a roll on the highway. I know a 4.8 can def keep up if not beat one from a roll. TT LAG FTL! Lets not forget the weight difference between the 335i and the 335Xi.

man, there are soo many options when it comes to BMW. today i saw this new black 3.0 x5, all black with the 4.8 package, black rims and it just looked amazing. i wonder how is the drive in one of those????

If the 335i is in the right gear, you are not going to beat it. Even with a 4.8is. If you mash the gas and the guy is sleeping in a high gear, you may stay ahead for a while. Otherwise, no contest. Seriously people, please stop comparing even a 4.8is to a 335i. It is no contest.

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I have less turbo lag than the X5 has downshift lag with the steptronic.

I agree.

TT lag??? It reaches fulll torque from about 1500 rpm! Virtually no lag at all compared to most turbo cars.

Oh yeah, and as of my ride home from the band gig tonight I can tell you the 4.6is is faster than a regular hemi charger (5.7?)on big stupid 22" wheels... From a stop and from a roll. He even got the jump on the roll from about 35mph because I didn't expect him to floor it out of no where, but I pulled on him quick before he had a chance to put any length on me.

The best part, I had the stereo cranked pretty damn loud jammin death metal and didn't even turn off the AC or put it in sport mode. Just slammed that skinny pedal and let her do all the work. :D (on an empty, straight, flat road with absolutely no traffic at 3am)

So what's your poison, i mean instrument? :D

I've made it a point not to be baited by any car, even if i know i can take them. If i do engage in any spirited driving, of course if road conditions permit, i may do so only if it's another SUV...i figure it's fair game.

I guess my poison is a mix of my love for music and being a good friend... I just help carry the gear for my friends band. (although they want me to get a sampler board and join in) Last night I carried the stacks for the bass player and most of the drum set.

Hopefully that was the last show I gotta load down the X for, they got the classic metal playing bar band hauler windowless ford econoline van now, I just gotta fix an issue or 2 on it first.

But she was running great last night and I did fall for the bait and run the guy... but after handling up on him a couple times he just turned off on a random side street with his feelings hurt.

I guess it depends on what you are looking for. I agree that an e46 M3 would be a better overall track car and you really can't beat the handling of the M, but with tuning, the e46 M3 can't touch it with regard to straight line performance. All the extra torque can be nice for everyday driving. Plus, no regular 3-series has ever been as close to the M version as far as performance is concerned. For what it is, the 335i really is a beast.

I love the e46 as much as anyone, but I will have to admit that the e92 has grown on me to the point where I am starting to see the e46 as a classic design, but just a smidge dated. Especially if you look at how clean the front and rear bumpers look on an e92. I have a feeling that a lot of e46 lovers will take to the e92 as it ages. It really is a beautiful car, IMO. Especially with the CSL wheels.

LOL.. pass over what you're smoking.. it must be some good stuff..:rofl:

Yesterday on my way home from a trip to the south, I spent the whole time playing around with a little cute peugot 307 :D whenever the poor guy wants to pass on 120km/h I floor it and he floors it... i nicely see him slowly shrinking in the mirror until i reach 170-180km/h... then i slow down and floor it again... donnu why i was so tempted to exercise my abuse on this little fellow lol

Then a mercedes C320 came like a crazy bat from behind, and passed me... I tried to catch up with him, but on the 4th gear at 130km/h i had hard time... i think he was pulling more...just a little... However, when traffic slowed down, we were next to each other rolling 100-110km/h... i was so damn happy and waiting to clear the truck that was causing the slow traffic, because i knew that my third gear will launch me like a rocket and that's what happened! when the road opened up, we floored them, and my third gear was amazing at launching me to 135 in no time and the 4th gear took it from there with the MB few lenghts behind me! ps: I have a 3.0

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WOW WHERE S THAT???

what about the 4.8 tom? lol - yeah that 335 is a lil beast... tazmanian devil..

So yesterday, I was driving my parents' minivan... then a 335i pulls up next to me. I KNEW I could take him. So I gun it at the light... but it doesn't make sense... our minivan has VTEC... it should have taken the 335, right? :D

Haha that was funny. But what if you were driving a Smart Car with 20" rims ???

15" rims are 20's to a smart car...

Glad to see FSETH, JCL, and the rest "bitch-slap" the X5 vs. 335 pretenders.
And to the guy who claims to have taken a Nissan 350Z: yeah, hello...the Nissan fella wasn't even trying...if he gunned it, you would've had your a$$ handed to you on a silver platter.

The whole point of an X5 V8 (a 4.4, 4.6, or 4.8) is to have a very fast SUV that gives you the best of all worlds: solid performance, nice handling, and utility/cargo space/4wd. It does all of these things very well, without excelling in any one of them. Thus it is faster than 90% of SUVs on the market, especially if modded with exhausts, intakes, etc. But please stop pretending that you can compete with a 335i, an Infiniti G37S, or even a Nissan 350Z. They will ALL leave you embarassed and wishing you did not challenge them. The ultimate cure for our 'SUV' blues will be when the X5///M and X6///M hits the dealers. And even then, you will need to pick your battles carefully: all non-SUV Porsches from the Carrera upwards will smoke you, and don't be picking races with any Vettes or Audi R8s.

LIONEL: I was on my way from Saida to Beirut... luckily, no radars :D my friend in the morning of the same day had a ticket

About X5 racing sports cars, like stanf18 said: We have the best of all worlds, but we cannot beat the specialists in each world.
I mean for god sake, we are comparing our SAV to Sports cars, then we compare it to off-road cars, then we compare it to luxury cars!!! Can't you see it's the same car? It's not fair! Of course a Hummer will beat us off-road, of course a Z350 will beat us in speed, and of course Jaguar or rolls royce will beat us in luxury.... but is there any other car than the X5 that is able to even make us think of the above all three together?? now THAT's what makes the X5 an exceptional machine...

Last night I raced a Target security guard on his Segway---beat him by at least 8.5 car lengths.

He must not have had fully charged batteries, or just doesn't know how to drive the damn thing... :rofl:

Maybe he spun his tires or missed a gear? :dunno:

Depends on how you have kept your 4.8is. ;). A stock 335 can be beaten by a 'well maintained' 4.8is. ;) Ask me how I know. And I have both engines in my garage.

For the OP: Don't try to race a current or previous gen Acura TL as well. Search forum...someone got smoked there. And NEVER race if you have people in car.

Was it Paul Blart?

Maybe he had the infamous "boost leak"

What do you mean by "well maintained". :confused:

You just have to explain now. I am intrigued.

Maintained by Dinan?

I am just amazed at how many people here are totally ignorant about the 335i....There is no chance for any X5 to even keep up with a stock 335i , Once modded its a beast . How do i know ? I had a fast 335i ..12.1 @ 116 , all with Procede , FMIC , DPs that's it. At that time it would run dead even with my stock 911 turbo until 100.

Most 335i are modded ...some are already in the 11.7 @120 range.

alot of people bimmer drivers tend to hve that extra ego about the capability of their ride. I saw a 4.8is try to take on a SRT8 Jeep. LOL no chance... yea the jeep may not be great on turns and such... but off the line? i wouldn't bother... the 4.8is totally got smoked off the line..

Unreal
 

.......this bears repeating!

Know your competiton! Know your BMW's. Do all this BEFORE you race and your chance of complete embarassment will be minimal.

The 35i is a very special engine. Even in the X6 it will nudge out a 4.4. As for 3-Series, even a 330d will smoke (literally) the 4.4.

i got smoked by a mitsubishi EVO IX yesterday lol :p but it was fun, his car was JDM Spec (Japan Domestic Model) so I kept passing him at 180km/h as his cars fuel cuts off at 180km/h, he just got it so he didnt do all the DME/ECU tunings yet...but 0-180 that car just reaches in a snap....

So the guy comes on here and shares a story how he got smoked by a 335. I don't see the need for blatant criticism, though I can't say that public forums are the best place to express one's manners...

That said, on to the story at hand.

I have "raced" many different cars in my 3 plus years of owning the "Black Beast" and to be totally honest, lost most of them. In my view, the main obstacle to any success is the [in my opinion] worst transmission I have ever had to deal with in ANY vehicle. The 6 speed trans in the 4.8iS is total crap. It has no idea what it wants to do, upshifts and downshifts at just the wrong time... I have tried driving it in S mode, and M mode, and the results are mixed. In S mode, when you stomp on it, it almost always redlines before it kicks into 2nd. Then it takes like a half second or more to go into 2nd, while the RPMs are falling off... By the time you are in 3rd, you are already losing the race...

Contrary to this, I won many more races in my 4.6iS. The 5 speed in that model was nothing short of awesome. The 1st gear jumped and the switch to 2nd was much better, as well as the switch into 3rd...

If my 4.8iS ever blows the trans, I know what I will do...

As far as the 335, it is a wicked car for sure.

Where in Oakbrook? I work on Butterfield Rd. I agree the 6 speed on my 4.4 sucks too...its so confused, the M mode works best.

you are so right, this is also same scenario in my 04' 4.4i with the 6 speed tranny, it delays too long in the red zone and then shifts to 2nd and so on...while in S mode or just stepping down on the gas, I mean I know these trucks are not meant for such aggressive shifts, but I still would love if it shifted quickly in the right RPM so it could hold the torque and gain in the next gear....

I am at Butterfield and Myers.

I used to have a 2002 Speed Yellow Turbo. Had mine up to around 600hp... Kept getting tickets... Ended up trading it in for the 4.8iS... Man, I would love to check yours out. Must be a monster!!!

As far as the trans, it is what it is. The best [and only?] way to even try to give yourself a chance is to manually shift the gears in M mode... Of course, don't forget to turn off the other gremlin: DSC

Had the X for 3 plus years, and am getting tired of it... Graduating from Law School in about a year or so, after which I am going back to Porsches...

My graduation gift? '05 Turbo S coupe. Black, this time. No more funky colors for me. ;)

Good deal. Are you by any chance working for Inland? I work in the same building by Myers and Butterfield. Pm me if you like , i can show you my turbo during lunch break...i am sure you will love it and get one after law school.

V:

Got your PM, sent you a reply...

Nobody told me, including my girl, that she borrowed my car to kick your X5's butt. You have my deepest apologies as, if I were the one driving I wouldn't have raced at all.

I'm currently retired from racing since when I had my '92 Corrado VR6 SLC and this Toyota MR2 had to race me that i used to see all the time pulled up next to me and revved. I blew the doors off of him and as we came to a traffic light in Tallahassee, FL. at Tharpe Street, even though I was slowing and he had clearly lost he still had to pass me and then lost control of the car and slammed directly into the adjacent retention wall across the intersection and totalled his car and his chances of getting some from the girl in the passenger's seat. Tough Break kid!

I still remain undefeated and a loyal member of the Car Acrobatic Team! ;)

Serves him right...he should have gone German!

Anybody else see the Speed Racer commerical with Speed in the GTI, he was right as well. Pops Racer just couldn't compete and neither could the MR2. Oh well! Memories...

-LAW ;)