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withidl 03-27-2005 02:43 PM

X5 Towing Capabilities - 31' Airstream
 
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I've made numerous posts on Bimmer.org regarding towing and the capabilities of the X5, but because a "picture is worth a thousand words" I'm attaching one of my assembly for those who might be interested.

Following are some statistics on the assembly:

BMW X5
*2001 April build
*All options except phone & load floor
*4.4i with Sports Package (rear axle has air suspension)
*Dinan throttle body, engine & trans software (298 hp & 350+ #' torque)
*Current miles = 60,369 (engine oil consumption = 1 pint every 6,500 miles)
*Hitch is the BMW OEM hitch (I installed it)
*Average city mpg = 13 to 17 (basis number of stop lights)
*Average highway mpg = 18 to 22 (basis wind direction)
*Average towing mpg = 8 to 12 (basis wind direction)

Airstream
*2002 (May 2001 build) 31 foot Classic Limited
*GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) 8,300# (have loaded it to 8,900+#)
*Tongue weight 750 to 1,000 pounds (weight distributed)
*Miles towed by X5 = 20,706

Hensley Arrow
*Towing interface (orange component between the X5 & Airstream)
*Totally negates sway via mechanical geometry (no friction involved)
*Incorporates weight distribution springs with jack screws
*Web site = http://nosway.com/

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e53fanatic 03-27-2005 09:43 PM

whoaaa.... :wow: .

UCrewX5 03-27-2005 09:48 PM

Awesome, thanks for sharing :thumbup:

Welcome to X5world !!

bs90143 03-27-2005 10:59 PM

I tow a 24ft boat all the time and never have a bit of problems. By looking at your picture and from the experience I have had with my X5, the bimmer is a great vehicle to tow with. This is no lie, I swear. My bimmer pulls my boat FAR better than my dad's H2 Hummer. In fact we bought the hummer to tow the boat with and ended up towing the boat with my X5. Last week my dad traded in his hummer on a F250 so he could pull the boat with his own vehicle instead of using mine. TRUE, THE BIMMER TOWS BETTER THAN THE H2 :wow:

withidl 03-27-2005 11:49 PM

The low profile tires (keeps the X5 lateral motion in check) and relatively short distance from the hitch ball to the rear axle (short lever arm) when compared to most other tow vehicles (Surburban, pick-up trucks, etc.) mitigates sway by not allowing the trailer to "wag the dog". The transmission's manual mode when used with cruise control allows max throttle without "working" the transmission.

I don't believe BMW realizes the capabilities of their vehicle, just as other manufacturers don't really understand towing, but they seem to have stumbled into creating a really excellent tow vehicle when configured correctly (i.e. sport package, air suspension).

JCL 03-28-2005 03:23 AM

Excellent information, well presented
 
Some really good info here from withidl.

I agree that the X5 is an excellent tow vehicle (I don't tow anything that heavy, but I have been impressed within the limits of my 3.0/5000 lb tow rating. The very short distance from the axle to the hitch centreline is a really big factor in the stability.

I think the published BMW limit has more to do with the preparation carried out by the average owner towing, and BMW needing to make sure there are large safety factors. I don't think many owners, if any, take as much care in setting up for towing as withidl does, from the sway bars to the trailer loading regime. The manufacturer needs to address the liability risks created by the lowest common denominator driver.

pepatrick 10-10-2005 08:28 PM

Supposedly...2002 and newer models with the V8 can tow up to 7700 pounds...Thats pretty impressive.

dksavage 10-15-2005 08:02 AM

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I tow a 2.4 tonne (5300lb) van with the 3.0D and it performs brilliantly - including great fuel consumption considering. I use trailer brakes and a weight distribution hitch. I find it surprising that when you put your boot into it the engine noise inside the car is still very low, unlike other cars I have used. Makes for nice low stress driving.

YankeeBimmer 10-15-2005 09:50 AM

Good god that's HUGE!

Mr. D 10-15-2005 11:23 AM

What do the other campers think when the X5 comes rollin' into the KOA? I'd love to see the looks...Ha Ha!! I love it!!!

withidl 10-15-2005 01:37 PM

The assembly does generate some attention. The main question is usually "how can that little vehicle pull that big trailer".

Stewthebassman 02-21-2006 05:09 PM

WOW.....what a setup!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info!!

jditom 02-21-2006 07:10 PM

Here is my 2003 pulling a 21 ft Traillite.

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Scottie 02-21-2006 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by withidl

Airstream
*2002 (May 2001 build) 31 foot Classic Limited
*GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) 8,300# (have loaded it to 8,900+#)
*Tongue weight 750 to 1,000 pounds (weight distributed)
*Miles towed by X5 = 20,706

so what is the nose weight of your van is that what you mean when you say tongue.???

withidl 02-22-2006 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottie
so what is the nose weight of your van is that what you mean when you say tongue.???

Yes, the "tongue" weight is the weight bearing on the hitch ball. Using "weight distribution" spring bars, which torque the hitch receiver (and thus the tow vehicle) and trailer such that a portion of the weight on the hitch ball is effectively transfered to the front axle of the tow vehicle AND the axles of the trailer. If the spring bars are adjusted correctly a 900 pound tongue weight would have 300 pounds "torqued" to the tow vehicle front axle and 300 pounds "torqued" to the trailer axles, leaving only 300 pounds on the tongue.

It's important that the hitch be able to handle the torque without damaging it's attachment to the tow vehicle, and that's where the BMW OEM hitch is an important installation since its engineered to the vehicle.

Incidently, I now have over 28,000 miles on the assembly with 78,000+ miles on the X5.

Scottie 02-22-2006 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by withidl
Yes, the "tongue" weight is the weight bearing on the hitch ball. Using "weight distribution" spring bars, which torque the hitch receiver (and thus the tow vehicle) and trailer such that a portion of the weight on the hitch ball is effectively transfered to the front axle of the tow vehicle AND the axles of the trailer. If the spring bars are adjusted correctly a 900 pound tongue weight would have 300 pounds "torqued" to the tow vehicle front axle and 300 pounds "torqued" to the trailer axles, leaving only 300 pounds on the tongue.

It's important that the hitch be able to handle the torque without damaging it's attachment to the tow vehicle, and that's where the BMW OEM hitch is an important installation since its engineered to the vehicle.

Incidently, I now have over 28,000 miles on the assembly with 78,000+ miles on the X5.

Jeez

you guys a doing well over there then.

Although we would not be able to legally tow your airstream here no way would our X5's with our tow hitch system be able to take your van anyway. we have no gadgets for weight distribution.

Airstream are coming onto the European market but will have more a Euro spec and I for one will be getting one.

Fi.


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