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jfox00 08-24-2009 07:36 PM

After Jumpstart, Onboard CPU & Gauges Dead
 
Over the weekend, I parked my 2005 BMW X5 overnight, and when I returned to the car, the battery was dead. I didn't leave the lights on, and I'm not exactly sure why the battery was dead.

After a jump start, the car seemed to be alright (it ran fine, and could be restarted). Except the on-board computer would not work, the gas gauge would not work, and the RPM gauge would not work. The only gauges that do work are the speedometer and the water temp. The on-board computer (display that shows the MPG/timer/distance to empty, etc.) is totally blank, and won't come back on, regardless of what buttons I press.

I haven't tried much besides searching the forums, and I didn't find anything exactly like this. One post suggested disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes (similar problem) but I wanted to reach out to the community first.

Should I just take the car to the dealer? Should I try the battery disconnect method? Other thoughts?

Thanks!

Naz24 08-24-2009 10:13 PM

it might be in safe mode...did the transmission seem like it was stuck in one gear?

jfox00 08-24-2009 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naz24 (Post 653098)
it might be in safe mode...did the transmission seem like it was stuck in one gear?

I'm not sure about safe mode, but the transmission seems to be fine, drove it on the highway for 100+ miles and then did some city driving.

At this point, it seems like the best bet is just to take it in. :tantrum:

Weasel 08-24-2009 11:27 PM

When the voltage goes low, the electronics can do some weird things. I agree taht doing a battery disconnect may be all it needs (fingers crossed) as it will do a full power reset on all the modules and may get them all working properly again. If that doesn't work then bring it in. (thinking you likely checked fuses already)

bd3500 08-25-2009 04:08 PM

I lost my central locking (remote, etc) after a jumpstart. Fortunately it was under CPO warranty took in and they fixed.

The Relay was fried I guess after the jump.

-bdf

jfox00 08-25-2009 04:13 PM

Thanks. Mine is CPO, so I hope it's covered as well. I'm taking it to the dealer tomorrow, so I'll let you know what this turns out to be.

bd3500 08-25-2009 04:24 PM

BTW, I just took it in and said it stopped working. I didn't elaborate and they didn't ask...

JimR 10-25-2009 01:24 PM

Bump... What did the dealer say? Mine has recently suffered this same problem after my brother borrowed it and left the lights on. After he jump started it, the outside temp is stuck, and the LED display has some of the pixels lit all the time.

deanblue9 10-26-2009 07:57 AM

almost the same thing happened to me. I left the stereo on while cleaning/detailing the car and totally forgot about it until and hour later. I had road assistant jump started the car and many weird things happened. At first, the car was fine but a day after I have Check Engine light and the transmission acted strangely. I brought the car back to the dealer; it turn out that the jump start fried my alternator and battery and throw the transmission in safe mode. I never realize that jump starting the car could cause such issues. I guess that I won't be having the radio on the next time I detail the car. Thank god for warranty.

jsracer 10-26-2009 10:02 AM

It was suggested to me that with all the modern electronics on any newer BMW avoid jump starting if possible (use of a trickle charger, for instance). It was presented that there could be a surge when the jumper cables are removed and strange electronic problems have been noted even after a week or two of a jump start.

deanblue9 10-26-2009 10:07 AM

I agree. However, road side assistance did came with the trickle charger to jump start my car and I did have the same problems as described in my previous post.

Seabass 10-26-2009 10:21 AM

Isn't there a jumpstart procedure? I can't recall exactly, but isn't there something about cranking up the heater to full blast before disconnecting cables?

Maybe someone can offer us a refresher?

jfox00 10-26-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimR (Post 673421)
Bump... What did the dealer say? Mine has recently suffered this same problem after my brother borrowed it and left the lights on. After he jump started it, the outside temp is stuck, and the LED display has some of the pixels lit all the time.

Well, after taking it to the dealer, they had to replace the instrument panel/cluster. In fact, they had to do it twice, because after the first replacement, I heard a strange ticking/humming sound when the car was at idle. In my case, I'm not sure if the bad instrument cluster was the cause of the electrical problem (and the dead battery), or the result of the jump start. Regardless, I'm glad the car was CPO, since it would have been expensive to fix. If the car needs a jump start again, based on my experience and others who've posted, I'm not sure what the best approach is!

jerry_googe 11-24-2009 09:25 AM

I had the exact same issue on the same X5 (ie 2004 4.4) and need only to replace the #43 fuse to correct the situation and restore the instrument cluster gadgets that were out, tach, fuel guage, etc.

2002Silver4.6is 05-22-2010 09:29 PM

I am having exactly the same issue! My battery was dead which is odd because the battery is only 4 weeks old. I did let the X sit for a few weeks but I thought with a new battery in mild weather it would not be an isse. I am thinking I have a short.

I jump started the X and now the gauges don't work and I cannot get my Navigation out of 'German'... ??? I went into the setup and tried to change to USA but it did nothing....

I am going to check fuse #43 as mentioned. If that does not work I will do a battery disconnect and reset.

Any other ideas???

Chris_731 11-05-2010 05:35 PM

Had this same problem after jumping a dead battery. After removing/installing the instrument cluster fuses (1,43,45 - not sure which one did it) all is well again.

Hal88 12-27-2010 03:43 PM

Had the same problem, my battery was dead and I gave it a jump start, all my Onboard and speed needles were dead......i tried resetting the fuses 1, 43, 45 and no help......I disconnected the ground cable from battery for 30min. and that took care of the problem.......I love this forum.

omodos 01-09-2013 11:52 AM

holy cow, looks like i will be getting a new battery asap so as not to risk getting stranded and needing a jump start....off topic slightly but anyone know off hand if any fuses need to be removed before disconnecting old battery terminals?

biitts 05-13-2016 12:32 PM

Tach, gas gauge were dead after a jump and climate control had gone to centigrade. I drove 25 miles this way with no change. I then removed the 3 fuses (1,43 & 45) and checked, none blown. Reinserted the fuses and all is now normal. I'm elated but a little puzzled. The best theory that I can come up with is a computer was affected by the low voltage but would not "reset" until fuses were removed (0 volts) and replaced (spec voltage). - Cheers and may your fix be as simple.


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