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Greg 09-04-2009 06:33 PM

2001 X5 4.4 transmission slipping in reverse.
 
Transmission place called today. My 2001 X5 4.4 is slipping in reverse. Forward there is no problems. Told me this is a common problem. Kit to fix the issue with a piston and cylinder, costs $480, plus $1500 in labor. Anyone heard of this problem and is this a reasonable?

JohnD 09-04-2009 07:59 PM

My 2001 had the same problem a few months ago. BMW NA stepped up and gave me a free transmission. I just had to pay 2K for labor

Greg 09-05-2009 09:01 PM

Tell me more. How were you able to get a new transmission? Did you have an extended warranty? I have 90K on my X5. Does BMW warranty their transmissions for 100K like other manufacturers do?

swissfrank 09-05-2009 09:50 PM

Here is the failed F Clutch Piston Seal

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2879.JPG

Note the rounded edges, these should be almost flat/sharp

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2881.JPG

This is what it should look like.

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2882.JPG

The inner seal is blown too.

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2885.JPG

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2886.JPG

It caused the friction material in the F Clutch pack to wear and also warped
the discs. The rest of the friction material was basically like new.

http://members.shaw.ca/allbusiness/5...s/CIMG2888.JPG

There is 176,000km on my 2001 4.4 X5 with the ZF Transmission, I've been pretty abusive to my vehicle and haven't babied the transmission much at all, other than changing the trans fluid...


MY other Thread for MORE INFO

JohnD 09-06-2009 05:27 AM

My car was 18 months out of warranty, and no I did' have an extended one. I showed the service manager the service history and he reached out to BMW NA on his own. Good getting it fixed - I know how stressed you must be

Greg 09-07-2009 07:25 AM

Great service manager. Hope I get one that is as generous.

Greg 09-08-2009 09:25 PM

Called BMW today. Told me that 18 months is the cut-off for service issues. BMW told me they won't repair any transmission. There service guys have never been trained to repair them, so only thing they do is replace them at $5500 plus labor. What a joke....

Weasel 09-08-2009 09:46 PM

BMWNA doesn't want dealers rebuilding any engines, transmissions, transfer cases, etc. Just replacing them. I think it's a liability issue. I know this because I offered to be a rebuild guy for all the above mentioned items at my dealer and was declined by the service manager for that reason.

TheKingSim0n 09-08-2009 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg (Post 658167)
Called BMW today. Told me that 18 months is the cut-off for service issues. BMW told me they won't repair any transmission. There service guys have never been trained to repair them, so only thing they do is replace them at $5500 plus labor. What a joke....

Dont even bother paying those crazy dealer prices... Go search in your area where you can repair the tranny at a VERY good local mom and pop transmission shop. Trust me you can repair that issue and it wont cost you more then $2,000.

JCL 09-08-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 658186)
BMWNA doesn't want dealers rebuilding any engines, transmissions, transfer cases, etc. Just replacing them. I think it's a liability issue. I know this because I offered to be a rebuild guy for all the above mentioned items at my dealer and was declined by the service manager for that reason.

True beyond BMW dealers as well. In our (non-BMW) shops, we don't want shop-floor mechanics rebuilding engines/transmissions/etc due to not only liability issues, but also special tooling and special instructions issues. It is just a less-controlled environment.


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