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NJX51981 01-05-2010 07:34 PM

Vibrating idling being caused by an electrical issue?
 
I had this issue, the vibrating idle while in park/drive, for about 15,000 miles now. I've brought the car in 3 times already, but they can't duplicate the problem.

I noticed a few days ago that if I turn off the radio, heated seat, and heat steering wheel it stops.

I have an 2005 X5 4.4i with about 50,000 miles. The dealer told me it was bad gas so I switched from Exxon 93 to the BMW recommended BP/Shell 93. No change in the problem. I had the injectors flushed--nothing.

It's very annoying. Sometimes the vibrating gets pretty rough and the RPM needle sputters. Not only that, my side view mirror glass (both driver and passenger sides) pan in and out when I accelerate.

What's the possibility that when using everything I'm drawing to much power? I replaced the alternator at approximately 30,000 miles.

Someone please help -- it's driving me crazy.

bobby 01-05-2010 07:55 PM

i have a similar problem on my 01 4.4 sport with 118k miles. it only happens when the engine is still cold. i wonder if it has anything to do with the engine idle rpm or is it even adjustible? because i notice it is kinda low, around under 500 rpm. anyone know what is the engine idle rpm supposed to be?

stickrod 01-05-2010 08:27 PM

I have the exact same problem. '06 4.4 with 55K miles. The idle kind of surges but the tach needle just sits at 500. The whole thing vibrates. Crazy.

Mikedd 01-05-2010 09:20 PM

Check for vacuum leaks. Mine did the same until I tracked all the leaks down, changed the plugs.


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X5HAPPY 01-05-2010 11:53 PM

My 2004 X5 4.4i with 62,000 miles also has an idle vibration when stopped, whether in neutral or drive. I've replaced plugs, checked for vacuum leaks, and had it checked by my local BMW dealer. The technician reported that the vibration was being caused by harmonics from a failing power steering pump. I am taking my X5 to an Indy next week for a second opinion, but I'm skeptical that the PS pump could cause this problem without noticing any steering issues. Other possible causes that I've read about include failing motor mounts, out of tolerance intermediate levers, and possibly sensor failures. I've pretty much eliminated everything mentioned so far other than the motor mounts and intermediate levers. My Indy will hopefully have something to add next week. Does anyone else have suggestions of other items to check?

m5james 01-06-2010 07:20 PM

Battery/ignition lock cylinder issues plague newer BMW's like no other...you wouldn't believe all the stuff I've read over on the 5 and 7 forums. When you come by we'll check for any pending codes, reset the computer and swap in my known good battery. I have a smoke machine as well, so we can check further for vacuum leaks...some leaks aren't easily found even w/ a thorough visual inspection. Maybe this other Indy might have some other insight as well, but we'll all go from there.

As for the plugs, why type did you use? I highly doubt the PS would cause vibration issues like they suggested, but an easy way to check is to simply remove the belt for a moment and see what happens. Motor mounts would be pretty obvious because they're fluid filled, so you'd see a mess around them. Intermediate levers could be a possibility, but that something we'd have to research here further in regards to how you could get that warrantied.

X5HAPPY 01-06-2010 07:47 PM

It would be great if we could check out a few of your suggestions before my appointment next week. This issue has been present since I purchased the vehicle and I replaced the plugs with the very same NGK plug as listed in the official BMW specifications. What is your available schedule? I'm off work on Friday and could meet you anytime Friday or this weekend. Please send me your contact details again via a private message and I'll give you a call to arrange a time and location. Thanks!

m5james 01-06-2010 07:56 PM

I'm home sick today...hopefully it'll be short. This weekend would be best.

I'm not worried about my number here since I advertise it anyways :) My cell is 208-571-9392. Feel free to call me whenever you're ready.

X5HAPPY 01-06-2010 08:04 PM

OK, I'll give you a call later tomorrow. Give you a chance to recover. I appreciate your willingness to help and I'm looking forward to meeting someone else with an X5 passion!

X5driver214 01-10-2010 03:38 AM

I had vibration on my car when in reverse and drive. It only happened when I was at a stop. I then changed out both engine mounts and it was fixed after that. I had no vibration at all until 6 months later, now my car has a very slight vibration at stops in reverse and drive, and only when the ac is on. Im very confused now. I dont know what to do to fix this. It seems like I have to replace my ac unit now. Very wierd!!! Does anyone else have a similiar problem?

X5driver214 01-10-2010 03:39 AM

The car is a 2000 bmw x5 4.4 non sport w/ 98000miles

m5james 01-10-2010 04:22 AM

X5Happy's bad idle/vibration is going to most likely be the PS pump as the dealership suggested since I was able to hear the whining as he pulled into the garage. We never got the chance to read codes or smoke maching his engine, but if the wild chance the PS replacement doesn't work, then we'll go from there.

rares 02-17-2010 10:21 PM

vibration idle
 
Hi guys ....I do have a 4.6is 2002 and also has an idle vibration when stopped, whether in neutral or drive.I dont feel it when the engine is cold but when gets warm every stop or even if it is in park and give it gas up to 3000-4000 rpm and then let it come back to idle the rpm deeps in and I can feel the engine almost dying ...then comes back ...no vibration.I took the car to shop they found some hose craked $330 but when I got home ..I felt it again.It's been a year now ..Can u guys give me info ,did u had the same problem? thx

Foose 02-17-2010 10:58 PM

I have a '06 3.0i with 12,000miles. I'm not sure if its the same problem as you guys but when idling at a light I can noticeably feel my steering wheel vibrate. It feels like the engine idle is surging back and forth but the rpm needle doesn't move at all. Am I being paranoid or is it a problem?

02BMWX5 12-23-2010 11:54 PM

Please help
 
Hey guys any updates on this issue

I have a 2002 with the same issue only when it's cold

When I put it in reverse it vibrates and the rpms go down and it stalls

Start it back up and its fine

Only does it in reverse

I have replaced the idle control, pCV, oil seperator, crankcase valve

Thanks

alromcc 01-18-2011 07:08 PM

Rough Idling - solved
 
Hi guys! I am a new owner of 2000 X5 4.4i E53 here in Qatar. I got my car last October10. I have been looking in this forum and it helped me alot. Thanks to all members.:thumbup:

I would like to share my experience on my previous rough idling problem during cold starts, and hope that this could help someone with same case

1) I cleaned the throttle using carb cleaner and tissue paper. I replaced the part #2 o-ring seen below
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/u/u/301.png
2) I cleaned the MAP with carb cleaner spray.
(blow dried the MAP using hair dryer before placing back)

3) Replace item 11 (see below - as advised by my friend at BMW service center, this part usually causes major leak resulting to rough idling)
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/j/f/79.png
4) Placed screw clamp on the small vacum hose attached at bottom side of part 12 above. (hose at end is already loose)


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