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AlpineMsix 11-12-2005 03:18 AM

4.8 vs b5 S4
 
So me and a b5 s4(bi-turbo) go off a roll at around 10mph. It was even until about 35-45mph where his turbo gave him a lil boost and my front bumper was side to side by his side mirror. It stayed that way until i had to get behind him because therre were cars infront of me.
I was right on his ass and we both took a small curvy turn and he took the inside lane. After that it was an open straight away where my naturally aspirated engine caught up side by side to his laggy turbo.
Both of us sped on the straight until another turn came up and i decided to stay in the outside lane and pass him while he was still on the inside.
Scared that my big FAT car is not about to stick the turn to AWD s4, i was wrong my car took it side by side just as fast as him.

I guess he got surpised that a big car like that just took a turn in the OUTSIDE lane just as fast he did in his sedan in the inside lane, because he rapidly slowed down and i did not see his headlights for a good while, until 2mins later i looked back and saw his xenons.

I do not condone street racing, but this was my first encounter to push my X to the limits and it did very well in my opinion for sucha big car, ESPECIALLY THE HANDLING!! I LOVE MY X5 now :)

statdoc 11-12-2005 04:03 AM

I read your post with mixed feelings.

On the one hand, I am remembering doing much the same thing, in other vehicles, years ago. It still feels good.

On the other hand, I have had to tell the crying mother that her son is dead because a street race ended badly. This second set of memories outweighs the first.

Call me a wet blanket, but I hope you enjoyed it enough NOT to do it again.

AlpineMsix 11-12-2005 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by statdoc
I read your post with mixed feelings.

On the one hand, I am remembering doing much the same thing, in other vehicles, years ago. It still feels good.

On the other hand, I have had to tell the crying mother that her son is dead because a street race ended badly. This second set of memories outweighs the first.

Call me a wet blanket, but I hope you enjoyed it enough NOT to do it again.

damn im sorry, of all the posts of people bitching and saying dont street race, this is the one that makes me thing again.... i completely understand where u are coming from and u are one of those people that would make me let of the gas before i raced anytime soon, as most people would "take it to the track"

statdoc 11-12-2005 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by imola4.8isWA
damn im sorry, of all the posts of people bitching and saying dont street race, this is the one that makes me thing again.... i completely understand where u are coming from and u are one of those people that would make me let of the gas before i raced anytime soon, as most people would "take it to the track"

:thumbup:

jpm4.8is 11-12-2005 02:16 PM

I haven't had a chance to match up against a speedy sedan yet , but I would sure love to see an expresion of disbelief on the other dirver :D

YankeeBimmer 11-12-2005 11:19 PM

:thumbup: Congrats! If he ever sees you again he will know that you will not hesitate to Represent! :D

foursixis 11-13-2005 01:55 AM

I used to own a B5 S4. No slouch. Chipped and with downpipes etc., that car will push close to 400HP easily. Stock only 250hp. Sounds like this guy was stock.

kneedragger 11-13-2005 05:36 AM

I owned a B5 S3 in the past too. A $500 chip will boost the car up to about 310HP. Bye bye X5. BTW - Street racing in a SUV/SAV/whatever seems silly.

Steved 11-13-2005 02:44 PM

We have an Audi S3 chipped up to 270bhp in the family and compared to the 4.8is it's bye, bye Audi. Not sure why street racing in an X5 should be any more ill advised than in another type of car, or are you saying that the lighter the car then the more it is ok? On that basis street racing on motorbikes would be positively encouraged :bustingup

I presume by street racing you are talking about racing in a residential housing area, in which case any form of driving fast is inappropriate. But out on the open road, particularly on multi-lane roads I see no reason why a little side-to-side on a friendly basis is a problem for a short distance.

foursixis 11-13-2005 10:43 PM

Audi S3 and S4 are completely different cars mate.
 
S3 wasn't sold stateside evar.

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Originally Posted by Steved
We have an Audi S3 chipped up to 270bhp in the family and compared to the 4.8is it's bye, bye Audi. Not sure why street racing in an X5 should be any more ill advised than in another type of car, or are you saying that the lighter the car then the more it is ok? On that basis street racing on motorbikes would be positively encouraged :bustingup

I presume by street racing you are talking about racing in a residential housing area, in which case any form of driving fast is inappropriate. But out on the open road, particularly on multi-lane roads I see no reason why a little side-to-side on a friendly basis is a problem for a short distance.


SANguru 11-13-2005 11:03 PM

ditto that.. Stock,they are slow... my old B5 S4 with K04 upgrades, downpipes, forge divertors, race cats, GIAC X-chip, and injectors was pretty fast though and ran mid 12 sec 1/4 miles..

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Originally Posted by foursixis
I used to own a B5 S4. No slouch. Chipped and with downpipes etc., that car will push close to 400HP easily. Stock only 250hp. Sounds like this guy was stock.


vinuneuro 11-13-2005 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru
ditto that.. Stock,they are slow... my old B5 S4 with K04 upgrades, downpipes, forge divertors, race cats, GIAC X-chip, and injectors was pretty fast though and ran mid 12 sec 1/4 miles..

K04's are a key upgrade. A lot of the B5 S4's, stock, were prone to failing turbos. Add a chip to the mix and say bye bye not to the X5, but to the turbos.

SANguru's set-up sounds pretty solid. How many psi was yours boosted?

SANguru 11-13-2005 11:29 PM

just 1.1bar.

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Originally Posted by vinuneuro
K04's are a key upgrade. A lot of the B5 S4's, stock, were prone to failing turbos. Add a chip to the mix and say bye bye not to the X5, but to the turbos.

SANguru's set-up sounds pretty solid. How many psi was yours boosted?


AlpineMsix 11-14-2005 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steved

I presume by street racing you are talking about racing in a residential housing area, in which case any form of driving fast is inappropriate. But out on the open road, particularly on multi-lane roads I see no reason why a little side-to-side on a friendly basis is a problem for a short distance.

hah you have to understand i am also from the states, where any type of racing is considered basically, KILLING YOURSELF (besides if its on the track)... not saying its safe, but then again on an open road like you say, its okay to do in my opinion, and nor would i ever speed in a residential zone so thats outta the question.

But then again in my opinion, the drivers in Europe are much much MUCH better drivers then people in the states, NOT EVEN GOING TO START ON WA DRIVERS!! I HATE EM!

SANguru 11-14-2005 02:08 AM

that's not true.. I knew a lot of people running GIAC xchips boosting about a bar with no problems on the turbos. The divertor valves on the other hand were known to not hold boost and also notorious for failing. Bear in mind what you read on the internet is only a small population.. Most of the turbo failures were due to idiots not cooling down the turbos before turning off the motor and not running turbo timers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinuneuro
K04's are a key upgrade. A lot of the B5 S4's, stock, were prone to failing turbos. Add a chip to the mix and say bye bye not to the X5, but to the turbos.

SANguru's set-up sounds pretty solid. How many psi was yours boosted?


vinuneuro 11-14-2005 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SANguru
that's not true.. I knew a lot of people running GIAC xchips boosting about a bar with no problems on the turbos. The divertor valves on the other hand were known to not hold boost and also notorious for failing. Bear in mind what you read on the internet is only a small population.. Most of the turbo failures were due to idiots not cooling down the turbos before turning off the motor and not running turbo timers.

Yea, I could see a lotta people not cooling down the turbos...lazy bastards :tsk: . I remember before we landed on the X5, we also considered a 330i and a 530i. Along with that came the B5 S4. My god, that thing was fantastic! The steering was perfectly weighted, and the thing was just glued to the road :wow: !

foursixis 11-15-2005 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinuneuro
K04's are a key upgrade. A lot of the B5 S4's, stock, were prone to failing turbos. Add a chip to the mix and say bye bye not to the X5, but to the turbos.

SANguru's set-up sounds pretty solid. How many psi was yours boosted?

Not true. I ran my Chipped S4 for 50K miles before turning it in on STOCK turbos.


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