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First time getting "Service Engine Soon" light -- Help --
I've had my 2003 4.4i X5 for about 2 years now. With the exception of an alternator replacement I haven't had any running or driving problems. The other evening I saw that my "Service engine soon" light had come on. The vehicle seemed to be running and driving normally and nothing was displayed on the information screen in the cluster.
I scanned the computer the next day and found that it was an error for Engine running too lean at idle, Bank 2. I cleared the code and went on my way. 2 days later the light is back. Is anyone familiar with this fault and its usual diagnosis? The vehicle cracked 100,000mi almost 1 week prior to this light coming on, but as I said earlier everything is operating normally. Where should I start looking for the culprit(s)? |
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Would the MAF cause the code to kick down for only one bank?
and do these fail, or do they just suffer from dirt and use. I was able to see big improvements with my 93' Subaru Legacy Turbo Rally car by cleaning the MAF. |
Does anyone know how to reset service engine soon light without obd scanner?
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I'm pretty sure you can not reset the light without a scanner. You have to go into the computer and clear the code. The good news is that even if you don't have a scanner your local autoparts store does and most of them will loan it to you, or walk out to your car with you to use it.
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I thought so too but I just came from autozone and they told me it was company policy not to reset them. He said maybe unplug battery or it should reset itself after a certain number of cycles. Any truth to this?
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As for cleaning if there are MAF specific cleaners. I'm not a big fan of cleaning as more times than not cleaning doesn't help. It won't hurt and only costs a few bucks for the cleaning spray. |
Hmm!!! I am really curious on how the single MAF setup can affect only one bank. Also how a faulty MAF can produce a Lean condition instead of a Rich condition.
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Check for intake leaks after the MAF, particularly rubber bits that often crack. That's the most common reason for a "too lean" code.
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There are both short and long term values. Short term fluctuations occur in essentially real time. Long term is more an average over time. If long term exceeds 20% then the SEL is illuminated. |
I understand that but to one bank and lean? What you said would most likely to create a rich condition, isn't it? Not debating but learning through logic.
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As for causing it to it being a lean/rich condition that would depend on how it's failing. Readings from the MAF are used to richen or lean out the fuel mixture depending on the air density (or what it thinks is the air density). A MAF works by heating a thin element to a high temperature. As air passes over the element it tends to cool it down. The amount of current used to maintain the reference temperature determines how dense the air is. Denser air cools the element more thus requiring more current. Less dense air requires less current. Thus the fuel mixture can either be leaned out or made richer. |
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As to why only one bank, well, in theory you should get an indication for both banks. But since an MAF problem due it it being dirty is typically a very slow process, gradually getting worse as time/miles pass, it is not unusual for the O2 sensor for one bank or the other to be the first to cross the threshold and indicate a "too lean" problem, e.g., one O2 sensor may simply be slightly different to the other O2 sensor due to manufacturing tolerances or aging, deposits, etc. So one of the O2 sensors will be the first to "pick it up," and the other will follow at some point down the road as the condition worsens. Of course, it might also not be the MAF, and could be something specific to one bank or the other. |
Thank you both. I see now. So if the maf measures less air going in it will send the signal to send less fuel.
I am still baffled by the one bank though. |
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P.S. The post-cat O2 sensors purpose is simply to make sure the cat is working to ensure emissions compliance. The computer compares the O2 readings for the pre-cat and post-cat O2 sensors and uses this data to determine if the cat is really doing anything, i.e., defective post-cat O2 sensors will not impact engine operation or performance. Hope that helps. |
Great Tip! I'll check that out straight away.
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I do want to say the code description you provided is not a fuel trim code so keep in mind we're not talking the exact same symptoms. |
+1 on the intake gasket. I was getting the same error last year.
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