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bkx5 11-22-2005 11:25 PM

Pioneer AVIC-N2
 
i just got the Pioneer AVIC-N2 pic palced in the truck ...anyone know how to cut the safety feature off were when you are driving you can't watch the dvd..i know on the avic-n1 you can ground a wire but the n2 doesn't allow that ...i have a cut off switch on now for the navigation and still the damn thing puts up that the car yes moving.......anyone with any idea's let me know

iop9000 11-22-2005 11:36 PM

that's a $0.99 problem , thanx to fleabay http://cgi.ebay.com/AVIC-D1-AVIC-N2-...QQcmdZViewItem

bkx5 11-22-2005 11:43 PM

good looking ..im going to see if it works tomorrow morning i may even call out of work to get it done..

JPooX5 11-22-2005 11:47 PM

Bkx5,
Can you post pic's of the AVIC-N2 ??

alpac 11-22-2005 11:56 PM

did you install it in place of the stock radio unit? Can we see a pic?

bkx5 11-23-2005 12:14 AM

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im going to take a pic of it tomorrow and show it

iop9000 11-23-2005 12:15 AM

diy?

Roc3b 11-23-2005 12:19 AM

I did the Avic -D1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bkx5
im going to take a pic of it tomorrow and show it

You can get a nice little toggle switch to make it look nice and neat, mine is mounted by right knee on the side of the center con.

drex 11-23-2005 07:21 AM

why the hell would you need a toggle switch for a $1500-$2000 unit??? why bugger up the dashboard or knee panel?

tell me what you need to do to bypass the thing, and i'll show you how to do it without the switch.

that's ridiculous as well (the switch).

drex 11-23-2005 07:28 AM

nevermind:

"For every one that is looking for a bypass for the pioneer models AVIC N2 and d1 you dont need one. After install and the unit is set up and navi is programed just put a toggle switch on the VSS wire this is the pink wire also know as speed sense. The memory in the unit will remember every thing in it. Also dont forget to ground the green brake wire. You will still get the message at the begining saying not to veiw just hit ok it will work fine.
Yes this does stop your speedo and g rating from working in the diagnostic display but you are watching a dvd and when you need the display just turn it back on. Also it does impare your navi (it will try to do every thing by antenna)but like i said just turn it back on when you need the navi option."

and

"UPDATE
the gyros in the unit do catch this and turn the warning on but it is only when there is high acceleration. It turns off by itself right away or you can turn the toggle switch on and off. so the first idea works but not 100%."


ok, now my $0.02 worth.

ridiculous. $2000ish for a piece of electronics that won't let you do what you want it to do.

i don't know about you all, but not being able to 'adjust' this safety feature makes this unit unfavorable.....

now, if you want to get really creative, you could tap into one of the negative trigger switches on the control panel for PDC or DSC and use a latch device to connect and disconnect that wire... prevents you from needing ANOTHER switch to get the unit to do what you want it to do.

for that kind of money, its not worth it. i'd go with the kenwood.

alpac 11-23-2005 11:25 AM

I do not have the nav in my X5 and I have been looking for some time for the best solution to add navigation capability to it. I know there are very good portable units from Garmin and Magellan but I would like the install to look neat, like if it was part of the car. That is why I was thinking about maybe the Pionner but based on what I have read it is not worth the price. I will keep studying a possible neat integration of one of these portable units then.

drex 11-23-2005 11:35 AM

alain---

don't do anything yet. i'm working on a solution for those of us (me) unhappy with the BMW Nav that uses a car pc and will support many things... including complete OEM integration AND 3-D Nav. using co-pilot.

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc.../3dmap_lrg.gif

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc...signed_lrg.gif

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc.../speed_lrg.gif


we'll make it so its TOUCHSCREEN driven and plug and play for you with ibus interface....

:)

drex 11-23-2005 11:36 AM

car pc/
gps/
touchscreen/
oem integration/
wireless

<$1800

:)

i'll need a test mule other than myself and jeff (if i can get jeff to let go of his Mark IV upgrade fixation)!

drex 11-23-2005 11:37 AM

anybody in Des Moines with a non-nav X5 to measure something???

Roc3b 11-23-2005 11:58 AM

ummm that would because the lawmakers decided
 
"For every one that is looking for a bypass for the pioneer models AVIC N2 and d1 you dont need one. After install and the unit is set up and navi is programed just put a toggle switch on the VSS wire this is the pink wire also know as speed sense. The memory in the unit will remember every thing in it. Also dont forget to ground the green brake wire. You will still get the message at the begining saying not to veiw just hit ok it will work fine.
Yes this does stop your speedo and g rating from working in the diagnostic display but you are watching a dvd and when you need the display just turn it back on. Also it does impare your navi (it will try to do every thing by antenna)but like i said just turn it back on when you need the navi option."

We can't drive and have a movie on at the same time...you use a switch so that if you get pulled over you can disable it quickly...if your vehicle is search and they discover you can view and drive you will be cited...Drex, I detect a very strong feeling about this topic from you....my toggle is very tastefully done and out of sight unless you know where to look.

Roc3b 11-23-2005 11:59 AM

Alpac, I brought a D! on ebay for $990 NIB...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alpac
I do not have the nav in my X5 and I have been looking for some time for the best solution to add navigation capability to it. I know there are very good portable units from Garmin and Magellan but I would like the install to look neat, like if it was part of the car. That is why I was thinking about maybe the Pionner but based on what I have read it is not worth the price. I will keep studying a possible neat integration of one of these portable units then.

Worth every penny! Awesome unit! I have every thing but blue tooth and could careless about that.

SuaveX5 11-23-2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drex
alain---

don't do anything yet. i'm working on a solution for those of us (me) unhappy with the BMW Nav that uses a car pc and will support many things... including complete OEM integration AND 3-D Nav. using co-pilot.

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc.../3dmap_lrg.gif

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc...signed_lrg.gif

http://www.alk.com/images/laptop8/sc.../speed_lrg.gif


we'll make it so its TOUCHSCREEN driven and plug and play for you with ibus interface....

:)


co-pilot works nice , i have it install on my car-pc and it has lots of nice features, but as we all know nothing is perfect, when driving in manhattan the gps sometimes has a hard time locking in to the satellite, un like the car nav that uses the car electronics to keep guiding you......

drex 11-23-2005 12:22 PM

roc3b-

i agree. the lawmakers did this to protect us from.......????

i ride a bike(motorcycle). i would rather have someone kinda watching/listening TV than talking on a cell phone any day.

i have my NAV/DVD unlocked and have driven by many a LEO and no one ever said bunk, with a movie playing....... not sure where you live, but most LEOs unless they are out to really bugger you will say anything...

i am sure your switch is hidden and done very nicely. there are solutions to make the switch 'invisible' in case people are interested...

drex 11-23-2005 12:23 PM

suave-

where did you mount your receiver?

SuaveX5 11-23-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drex
suave-

where did you mount your receiver?

on dash board and i have try it on top of the X too.

alpac 11-23-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drex
alain---

don't do anything yet. i'm working on a solution for those of us (me) unhappy with the BMW Nav that uses a car pc and will support many things... including complete OEM integration AND 3-D Nav. using co-pilot.

we'll make it so its TOUCHSCREEN driven and plug and play for you with ibus interface....

:)

Drex,
very interesting. Where would the screen fit?

alpac 11-23-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roc3b
Worth every penny! Awesome unit! I have every thing but blue tooth and could careless about that.

Rocb3,
Is the d1 installed in your X? If yes where did it go? in place of the radio unit? can we see a pic of the d1 installed?

drex 11-23-2005 07:56 PM

that's what i am working on...

for non-Nav cars, i have an idea...... ;)

Roc3b 11-23-2005 10:02 PM

Check it out installed here....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alpac
Rocb3,
Is the d1 installed in your X? If yes where did it go? in place of the radio unit? can we see a pic of the d1 installed?

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/misc/paperclip.gif Got NAV, XM, & DVD? You can now as well as Sirus or IPOD


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