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Allstarsrd12 10-08-2010 01:37 AM

To the engineer of the e53 early model window regulators...
 
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING/SMOKING!?!?!?!

The 4th one JUST broke, after just fixing all the other three, 3 weeks ago and I could have sworn I heard a faint laugh from a little bmw gremlin who seems to be primarily focused on messing with my X right now.....

Zulu95 10-08-2010 09:34 AM

What were "they " thinking? Why just how much profit is involved in producing an expensive premium level vehicle with high dollar per hour service costs that contains a host of designed to fail parts thereby keeping their dealers happy.
Cynical answer but the only one that would explain all the stupid little failures we read about on this and other websites.

FSETH 10-08-2010 09:39 AM

:rofl:

As good as BMW's are, sometimes the parts and or designs they incorporate are just sub-par.

Allstarsrd12 10-08-2010 11:26 AM

Yes, I know the market profit explanation, was more of a sarcastic post. Would like to go a week without having to deal with stuff. At the point where I am seriously contemplating parting it out.

tonycajjo 10-08-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allstarsrd12 (Post 773468)
Yes, I know the market profit explanation, was more of a sarcastic post. Would like to go a week without having to deal with stuff. At the point where I am seriously contemplating parting it out.

i feel your pain... (as many here do) its funny how some parts are over engineered and some are seem to be sub-par. but she sure does go like a bat outta hell.

Allstarsrd12 10-08-2010 11:44 AM

This is very true. sometimes that's all you need to forget about the little things.

sunny5280 10-08-2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allstarsrd12 (Post 773411)
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING/SMOKING!?!?!?!

The 4th one JUST broke, after just fixing all the other three, 3 weeks ago and I could have sworn I heard a faint laugh from a little bmw gremlin who seems to be primarily focused on messing with my X right now.....

I can understand the occasional part being defective. It happens with any vehicle. What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't redesign the troublesmome part to be more reliable. It seems they continue to use the same, unreliable part indefinitely.

JCL 10-08-2010 05:21 PM

Do you ever close the doors with the windows fully down?

Just wondering.

I have never had a window regulator fail on any BMW. And yes, I do raise and lower the windows.

ba82 01-03-2011 11:34 PM

Does anyone know of a way to strengthen it before installing? Specifically, I am wondering if anyone has a clever way to strengthen the clip where the cable snaps in so it doesn’t come out!

I am about to do my driver's side for the second time - I have done each other door one time and I have only owned the car a few years. Overall, I love the X5 but seriously, this is such an annoying thing - maybe if the doors didnt slam so hard it would help........ On a positive note, I can now take my door panels off very efficiently!

Weasel 01-04-2011 12:20 AM

Look for the post with pics from mrbmwx5 (Tom) about a window regulator fix/modification.

He depicted a way of holding the lift cable into the plastic holder using a piece of home wiring (coat hanger would work ok too) Last time the rear clip let go on my drivers door window I stuck it back together like this and it has been holding up fine for months. This wouldn't be a bad idea to do to a new one to help prevent future problems I guess.

Good point JCL made about closing the doors with the windows down... that does put a lot of impact on the window regulator clips in a direction they weren't designed to handle and may very well be leading to most of the parts failures. As I say this I seem to remember throwing my door closed with the window down and heading an abnormal level of "clank", next time I went to use the window is when the rear clip failed. Not a coincidence!

440films 01-04-2011 12:53 PM

Is their any difference in the later model E53 Window Regulators?

Weasel 01-04-2011 02:02 PM

All the same.

ba82 01-05-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 792611)
Look for the post with pics from mrbmwx5 (Tom) about a window regulator fix/modification.

He depicted a way of holding the lift cable into the plastic holder using a piece of home wiring (coat hanger would work ok too) Last time the rear clip let go on my drivers door window I stuck it back together like this and it has been holding up fine for months. This wouldn't be a bad idea to do to a new one to help prevent future problems I guess.

Good point JCL made about closing the doors with the windows down... that does put a lot of impact on the window regulator clips in a direction they weren't designed to handle and may very well be leading to most of the parts failures. As I say this I seem to remember throwing my door closed with the window down and heading an abnormal level of "clank", next time I went to use the window is when the rear clip failed. Not a coincidence!

Thanks for the advice, his "fix" does look like it would work for a way to prevent the issues - or at least delay them.....

I do try to keep the windows up when closing the doors, unfortunatly this isnt always practical. Is there a way to keep the doors from slamming so hard? I have searched and dont see much on this...there must be some sort of adjustment (fingers crossed) or a part to replace? Its clearly an issue.

JCL 01-05-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ba82 (Post 793253)
I do try to keep the windows up when closing the doors, unfortunately this isn't always practical. Is there a way to keep the doors from slamming so hard? I have searched and don't see much on this...there must be some sort of adjustment (fingers crossed) or a part to replace? It's clearly an issue.

I don't know of a way to prevent slamming, other than training the users. It comes down to user error. OK, maybe thay should be more robust, but the only thing in your control at this point is the user.

Note that you don't need the windows all the way up to protect the regulators, they just can't be all the way down. Put them up a few inches, and the window is held more firmly, preventing damage to the regulator. This isn't just a BMW issue, it applies to any window regulator.


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