Going with the buy-back on my 4.8is
 

So after the last 8 months of hassle with the car, BMW NA asked to complete the buy back. They are willing to refund all the payments on the car, but not what I spent out of pocket. The dealer asked me to bou new tires, new wheels and several suspension parts and they said that would fix the problem. It didnt, but since I went and bought those items outside of the dealer, they dont want to refund. It's about $10k worth of receipts. What are your opinions on this? Has anyone gone through this process? Should I involve a lemon law lawyer? Thanks

Wow, everyone's x5's are reliable??

give more time for people to respond.

why did you buy the parts yourself? wasn't the car under warranty? do you have a link to a thread that describes your problems?

Actually I am surprised that BMW is buying back a 5 year old vehicle. Did you buy it new, or was is a CP0?

For the most part, I believe the lemon law doesn't apply to used vehicles. State laws will vary though. You'll be able to sell the wheels and rubber pretty easy. How much of the 10K were wheels and tires? Are they OEM?

I think we're all saying we need more information.

Haha, sorry, i actually posted this last night. I bought the car used with 30k miles and still under manufacturer's warranty (when the problem occured). Right front rotor kept on getting warped when new and the car would pull the to the right. I have gone back to the dealer more than 13 times with the same problem and they replaced calipers, rotors, wheel hubs, bearings, brake lines and numerous suspension parts. Still no difference. I got BMW NA involved and they made an offer to do a full buy back on the car + the payments I made so far. I was told by the dealer I had an option to go out and buy new tires, wheels and misc items that they said would fix the problem and not covered under warranty. I went outside of the dealer because it was 50% cheaper.

They will be taking the car so i cannot sell any parts from it. Everything is OEM.

that last little bit there sucks... they should be responsible for everything. i dont think that you will get any of the money you spent outside from the dealership back.

edit: meaning that they should have been buying the parts not even mentioning to you to go buy parts.

I think it is a numbers' game. Yeah, in the spirit of fairness, I think you're entitled to everything but I would probably take a haircut on the tires / outside work especially if you don't have written proof of the dealer 'advice'

:dunno:

What are you exactly expecting? :popcorn:

I had a friend who had this EXACT problem with his 2003 540i sport. They kept replacing the brakes, and they kept warping. The dealership actually ended up buying him stop tech rotors, calipers, and pads--fixed the problem completely.

Wow

Best. Deal. EVER. For one of the best cars ever. Lucky~

I hate to say it, because I hate them, but yes you should contact a lemon law attorney. Specifically one of the bigger ones. You will get your money back and they will get paid by BMW.

Hell, you've already got a history and money invested into this...ask them to do the same thing for you with the brake upgrade. I'm sure financially it'd be better for the both of you as well as being a win win. Short of a failed ABS unit or a pinched/clogged brake line, I can't see why else this would be happening. Clearly if the right front is the one getting ruined all the time, something is going on with the left side since the right is doing all the work.

the rotors do not keep warping
they are badly machined , this effectively makes them warped due to the run out tolerance specified .
the X5 is sensitive to the run out , anything less than perfectly machined discs are a load of caka .
I am having issues with new discs from bmw . the run out is 0.005 " or 0.1 mm .
can`t get a straight answer from dealer as to bmw spec .
they say book it in , leave it all day , and if they find discs in spec they will invoice me for time . yet they can`t tell me run out specs so how are they going to say yes or no when I already measured run out and asked if it`s within spec or not ,, WTF :stickpoke

Another problem with turning rotors over and over again is that the thinner they become, the quicker they overheat and rewarp since there is less meat there dissipate the heat. I'm probably speaking the obvious here, but just saying.

brand new bmw discs out of the box , make sure the run out is noted before putting the calipers on , that way you can reject them , refit your old discs until you can buy something decent . the stop tech stuff sounds like a good deal .
bmw quality ????? has declined to a new low .

Replacement rotors probably aren't even made by bmw..

Supposedly most replacement rotors for BMW are made by Brembo, but even then, they probably oursource to Mexico or China as well. Until you start getting into the Stop Tech, higher ended Brembo's, etc all these lower end consumables are made by the cheapest supplier.

Yep.. and in my experience, Brembo OEM replacement rotors are garbage. In one case, the last two rotors available were made in different countries! Its hard to come to that conclusion however, as I've only driven on two sets (small sample size).

'lower end consumables' ... love that phrase!

I personally think Raybestos Advanced Tech are of decent quality. Interested to see if anyone has ever used Cryo Stops..

i thought the BMW rotors were one and done... no turning.

I've turned BMW rotors plenty of times, just make sure they're still within the mins after the turn, otherwise toss them. I even have a local shop that who I send them to that only charges $5 per rotor, old guy who's super nice and does a great job.

Both of mine are. Well to be fare I did have a pretty bad software problem with one of them for a while. But it's all better now.

mine has been pretty good. not perfect, mind you, but well within what I would expect from a 113K mile vehicle of just about any brand.

I gave up and got a new car....

Nice! If I lived in a warmer climate, that'd be first on my list!