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Rob2529 11-24-2010 07:08 PM

Fuel burning heater
 
Evening gent,
I'm posting on behalf of a mate who is due to pick up his X5 on Friday. He's getting a 3.0D sport. I've got a RangeRover and i know they are very similar and share a lot of gear due to BMW owning landrover at the time. So I’m basing most of my knowledge on them being similar.
The question is do all diesel X5's have the fuel burning heater? if they do is it accessed via the OBD like in the rangerovers? Not sure if I’m right but the heater option only consisted of the remote to start the heater externally? If they don’t what is req to get one fitted?
Thanks in advance
Rob

JCL 11-24-2010 07:41 PM

The Webasto heater was a separate option. If it isn't fitted (look underneath, under the passenger seat on a RHD vehicle) then you would require the full kit to install it.

thedweeb 11-24-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob2529 (Post 783758)
Evening gent,
I'm posting on behalf of a mate who is due to pick up his X5 on Friday. He's getting a 3.0D sport. I've got a RangeRover and i know they are very similar and share a lot of gear due to BMW owning landrover at the time. So I’m basing most of my knowledge on them being similar.
The question is do all diesel X5's have the fuel burning heater? if they do is it accessed via the OBD like in the rangerovers? Not sure if I’m right but the heater option only consisted of the remote to start the heater externally? If they don’t what is req to get one fitted?
Thanks in advance
Rob

Hi,
All diesel x5s were fitted with the heater but to use it for heating the inside of the car whilst parked was an after thought and therefore was an optional extra at BMW. You can however retrofit a relay which comes with a remote for about £40 which is easy to fit.
Dweeb

Rob2529 11-24-2010 08:51 PM

Cheers guy but im totally confused now. Thedweeb you say it's there but has no remote but could be used via the onboard comp?
JCL your saying some do have it some don't?:dunno:

JCL 11-24-2010 11:04 PM

Firstly, it varied via geographic marketing organization. I have corresponded with UK posters who do not have it installed on their 3.0d models, but maybe their heaters had been removed. If thedweeb is in the UK and says they all had it, that is good enough for me. What you need to do in either case is look underneath the vehicle and see if you see the exhaust outlet for the diesel-fired heater. If it is there, it doesn't matter if they all had it or not.

The remote control is an option. Thedweeb doesn't say you can control it via the onboard computer, he says that you can buy a kit with a relay to enable the OBC control.

rb0135 11-25-2010 05:02 AM

I have a 3.0D and it has the heater. No remote needed, it is accessed through the Menu on the NAV screen as the "Auxillary heater". I also read in the MANUAL that it comes on automatically when the temperature is low enough when the car is first started so you get warmed up before the engine is warm enough.

However, here in Sydney, Australia, it will NEVER get that cold for it to come on, or for me to use it.

Rob

powers1 11-25-2010 06:17 AM

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Well it was an option on mine in 2003 and it always comes with a remote.
But forget about looking underneath the seats for it...just open the bonnet and if you have the Webasto heater,it will be behind the fuel filter...(see pic)

Also,as JCL says ,if you look underneath the vehicle ,you will have a tiny exhaust pipe at the front left side.

Bmw recommend that even if you dont use it,to turn on periodically(every 5000 kms or every 6 months).

Anyone wanting one ,it seems that Rbo135 doesnt need his:rofl:

thedweeb 11-25-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob2529 (Post 783773)
Cheers guy but im totally confused now. Thedweeb you say it's there but has no remote but could be used via the onboard comp?
JCL your saying some do have it some don't?:dunno:

As said you can control it via the nav screen under aux. However if yours only says aux vent and not Aux heating you will need the simple mod to get it to work or you can activate it buy plugging in a scanner and programing the cars software to give you the option. Have you looked on xdrivers.co.uk ?
dweeb

bigwave2255 11-25-2010 07:02 PM

how could you get it to work if you dont have the nav touch screen

i have the heater ( not that i will ever need it in Queensland) but have no idea how to make it work.

i have the "Business CD" under the flap so probably the basic sound system

so are there still options to control the heater?????

thedweeb 11-25-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwave2255 (Post 783943)
how could you get it to work if you dont have the nav touch screen

i have the heater ( not that i will ever need it in Queensland) but have no idea how to make it work.

i have the "Business CD" under the flap so probably the basic sound system

so are there still options to control the heater?????

Yes there is. Over here in the UK you can buy a small relay that is simply wired into the conector of the heater and onto a 12v supply. With the relay comes a remote control which you use to switch the live supply via the relay to the heater. But as you said being in queensland you will never need it,over here its currently -2 so cold.:(
Dweeb
Dweeb

powers1 11-26-2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwave2255 (Post 783943)
how could you get it to work if you dont have the nav touch screen

i have the heater ( not that i will ever need it in Queensland) but have no idea how to make it work.

i have the "Business CD" under the flap so probably the basic sound system

so are there still options to control the heater?????

Yes!You should have a remote that comes with it.:)

CondorX5 11-26-2010 05:46 PM

Just to confuse the issue further, my 4.8is has the auxiliary heater with remote, and I can also use it via my nav screen via the aux heating option. Not sure how it operates and how it derives its fuel, being a diesel webasto in a petrol car,,,,,,,it was a really expensive optional extra here in the UK on the 4.8.

powers1 11-26-2010 07:12 PM

Have you located the heater?Is it inside the engine bay like on the Diesels?Can you see a small exhaust outlet on the left front beneath the car?Maybe yours works with petrol or may simply just be electric!

JCL 11-26-2010 10:32 PM

Webasto made both diesel and petrol versions of their heater.

amacman 11-26-2010 11:20 PM

he is correct
https://www.butlertechnik.com/catalo...t/category/28/
https://www.butlertechnik.com/catalo...t/category/28/

powers1 11-27-2010 08:53 AM

From your links ,it shows that Webasto did do both versions(although the 24v Diesel version is not for X5!:D,but did they sell the petrol one to Bmw?Maybe someone here can confirm this!

JCL 11-27-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by powers1 (Post 784204)
From your links ,it shows that Webasto did do both versions(although the 24v Diesel version is not for X5!:D,but did they sell the petrol one to Bmw?Maybe someone here can confirm this!

See post #12


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