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N S 01-28-2011 05:29 PM

$#$@$ you motorcycle rider
 
I got rear ended by a motorcycle yesterday. Took a nice chunk out of the back of my X5 (pictures coming). I'm spending the day getting repair estimates.

My concern is that the body shop will take care of all the cosmetic and structural (if applicable) repairs, but what about electrical? I.e. one of the back up sensors broke and now the thing beeps all the time - the body shop is going to replace the sensor, but what about calibrating the system or verifying it is working properly? Similarly, what about the other electrical features like the self leveling air suspension and the tail lights (i.e. I don't want a check brake lights warning to suddenly appear).

And the kicker.....they guy that hit me was riding a BMW motorcycle.

N S 01-28-2011 05:54 PM

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recklessspyder 01-28-2011 06:13 PM

I had no issues with my front sensors being repaired and needed no calibration. They beep at me at the right times.

N S 01-28-2011 06:16 PM

thanks good to know

cfmistry 01-28-2011 07:02 PM

If insurance is covering it, why not take it to your BMW dealer's authorized repair facility? Then you won't have to worry (as much) about the issues you mentioned above.

-Cyrus

chilliwilli 01-29-2011 08:10 AM

The sensor may still be in there...the housing that keeps the sensor in place, broke off. If you look into the hole, you may see the sensor itself still in the bumper area. If it is, you can pull the sensor out and that should stop the PDC from constant beeping. You can pick up a new housing for the sensor...it's cheap and simple to install.

Nik 01-29-2011 08:21 AM

You're joking right? It's almost like a scratch to your huge X. nothing to worry about there buddy.

ducati2242 01-29-2011 09:30 AM

And not one word on the motorcycle rider . As long as your cars o.k. yeah.

joeboch348 01-29-2011 10:09 AM

sheesh it's a little ding compared! motorcycles rear ended by cars 1,000,000-1 vs cars rear ended by motorcycles . I'd just be happy if no one was injured.

imola38 01-29-2011 10:18 AM

I can totally understand your frustration from the hit to your X. As a rider myself though, I have to say I bet he felt that hit many times more than yourself. Obviously he could have been killed as would be very unlikely for you in an suv. How did he fair? Did he say how that happened? Glad everyone's ok!

-Ben

motordavid 01-29-2011 10:28 AM

Sorry to read of the OP's situ, but I agree with my fellow riders: that rider, even if at fault, is sore as hell for awhile.

If it had been Buffy in a minivan, would the title have been $#$@$ You Minivan Driver?

Not defending the m'cycle rider; usually we can stop in a much shorter distance than most cars, but the title is a bit over the top, imo.
GL on the fix.
mD

cfmistry 01-29-2011 12:04 PM

I am sure if the motorcycle rider was severely hurt the OP would have mentioned it. His title is probably just out of frustration - mine probably would have been similar and I am a rider.

-Cyrus

caisson12 01-29-2011 04:24 PM

Self-centered twit.............
 
:tantrum:

N S 01-29-2011 07:07 PM

Motorcycle rider is fine - if he was injured I would not have been so abrupt in tone. I'm not a complete dick....though once I found out he was ok, I did want to kick him.

And before you jump on me for that comment, I stayed and made sure he could start his bike and offered him a ride to a nearby business area so he wouldn't be stuck on the freeway - he ended up riding on his own.

And yes, the title of the thread would have been @#$@#$ minivan soccer mom had "buffy" rear ended me. Though depending on how the scenario played out I might have walked away with a bj. :rofl:

Its not so much the damage that is annoying, its the time I'm going to have to spend dealing with insurance companies, body shops, rental companies, etc. I understand accidents happen, and the guy has been cooperative (not fighting it), it still doesn't make it an enjoyable experience....and I'm using this forum to vent so :D

ducati2242 01-29-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N S (Post 800358)
Motorcycle rider is fine - if he was injured I would not have been so abrupt in tone. I'm not a complete dick....though once I found out he was ok, I did want to kick him.

And before you jump on me for that comment, I stayed and made sure he could start his bike and offered him a ride to a nearby business area so he wouldn't be stuck on the freeway - he ended up riding on his own.

And yes, the title of the thread would have been @#$@#$ minivan soccer mom had "buffy" rear ended me. Though depending on how the scenario played out I might have walked away with a bj. :rofl:

Its not so much the damage that is annoying, its the time I'm going to have to spend dealing with insurance companies, body shops, rental companies, etc. I understand accidents happen, and the guy has been cooperative (not fighting it), it still doesn't make it an enjoyable experience....and I'm using this forum to vent so :D

Well done . Thats the spirit.:beerchug:

admranger 01-31-2011 12:45 PM

Interested to hear how much the damages are. That area below the tail light is boxed in with no way to "pound the dent out" so they'll have to drill and pull... Bumper is toast as is the support bracket (maybe).

Keep us informed.

Isambard 01-31-2011 04:14 PM

Is that it? :confused: I thought you were talking about a 'nice chunk taken out of the back', as in a C-R-U-N-C-H!!! :wow:

Thats just a new bumper, a new sensor (if its not still attached) and a day or two in the paint shop!

2 days max. Nothing to worry about..!:stickpoke

m5james 01-31-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducati2242 (Post 800196)
And not one word on the motorcycle rider . As long as your cars o.k. yeah.

:iagree: Sure, by default it's the person who did the rear ending is at fault...but I'm sure there are two sides to every story. I've almost rear ended plenty of cagers because they don't look for us. Riders lane split in CA, so this could be a case of the OP making a lane change w/o looking...but of course he's never going to admit fault on a public forum. I wouldn't have to wear leathers in 100*+ temps if cagers looked for me as much as I watch them.

rocky1536 02-01-2011 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by m5james (Post 800836)
:iagree: Sure, by default it's the person who did the rear ending is at fault...but I'm sure there are two sides to every story. I've almost rear ended plenty of cagers because they don't look for us. Riders lane split in CA, so this could be a case of the OP making a lane change w/o looking...but of course he's never going to admit fault on a public forum. I wouldn't have to wear leathers in 100*+ temps if cagers looked for me as much as I watch them.

Very true. Unfortunately the "rear ender is at fault" policy is all you can have without witnesses, it's definitely a vague interpretation of an accident. Considering how much quicker most bikes accelerate, a driver can look one second before the biker passes and still cut them off.

I consider leather very cheap insurance!

admranger 02-01-2011 04:32 PM

Wear the new kevlar suits. Leather is old skool! A friend of mine hi-sided her BMW at 50+ mph. Lots of structural damage to her body but her skin was intact and unscathed (less chance for infection, etc.). BMW suit, iirc (yes, she has $$$). Crap in a corner + cruise control + steep drop on shoulder of road = flight for life. Everyone was amazed that she wasn't abraded.

THK 02-02-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N S (Post 800358)
Its not so much the damage that is annoying, its the time I'm going to have to spend dealing with insurance companies, body shops, rental companies, etc. I understand accidents happen, and the guy has been cooperative (not fighting it), it still doesn't make it an enjoyable experience....and I'm using this forum to vent so :D

Time to grow up.

A telephone call to the insurance company, a call to the body shop, and the insurance company will make arrangements for the rental car. Much less time then what you are crying about.

When the stupid cage driver pulled out in front of me while on my motorcycle, after the little trip to the hospital, one telephone call to his insurance company, everything was handled. Insurance company took care of everything to include the guy who stored my motorcycle untill I was able to recover it. Although minor injuries, took a year to fully heal.

N S 02-03-2011 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger (Post 800733)
Interested to hear how much the damages are. That area below the tail light is boxed in with no way to "pound the dent out" so they'll have to drill and pull... Bumper is toast as is the support bracket (maybe).

Keep us informed.


$3,400 was the initial estimate based on the external evaluation. That doesn't account for any "unseen" damage that may be lying beneath. And yes, I specifically asked about the section under the light and was told they basically weld studs onto the sheet metal and pull it back into shape, then apply a minor amount of body filler (skim coat) once they get it out.

N S 02-03-2011 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isambard (Post 800791)
Is that it? :confused: I thought you were talking about a 'nice chunk taken out of the back', as in a C-R-U-N-C-H!!! :wow:

Thats just a new bumper, a new sensor (if its not still attached) and a day or two in the paint shop!

2 days max. Nothing to worry about..!:stickpoke

Tell that to my body shop - 6 days worth of work according the their estimate (doesn't include material order time).

N S 02-03-2011 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m5james (Post 800836)
:iagree: Sure, by default it's the person who did the rear ending is at fault...but I'm sure there are two sides to every story. I've almost rear ended plenty of cagers because they don't look for us. Riders lane split in CA, so this could be a case of the OP making a lane change w/o looking...but of course he's never going to admit fault on a public forum. I wouldn't have to wear leathers in 100*+ temps if cagers looked for me as much as I watch them.

I can assure you this was not the case - they motorcycle rider and his insurance company have accepted full liability (which has made this a much easier process).

Isambard 02-03-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N S (Post 801614)
Tell that to my body shop - 6 days worth of work according the their estimate (doesn't include material order time).

Of course its going to take '6 days' ;) - they have to justify that ridiculous quote. :bustingup

Boston X5 4.4 02-03-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N S (Post 801614)
Tell that to my body shop - 6 days worth of work according the their estimate (doesn't include material order time).

Not surprised given that it's an insurance job......now is a good time to ask the body shop to take care of any other door dings etc. that you may have (for free).
GL


....as far as the anti-"cagers" go, I understand the frustration but that is part of the inherent risk in riding (former biker here)....unfortunate but true. On the other side of the coin, don't get me started on all the Masshole squidders that come out in the summer like gnats.


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